[Corholio]

Originally Posted by Phoenix Park

I think this would be a step in the right direction. Take todays Wolves v Man Utd game for example. I'm not saying Wolves aren't trying, in fact they are playing fairly well with 10 men all things considered, but in general it would give sides that go three or four down a real reason to fight on.

It would reduce the outflow of fans early from games that are very one sided. Towards the end of the season it might make the relegation battle more exciting, the knowledge that a rival club could drop a point by getting a serious beating. Don't forget Man United, Arsenal and Spurs have all been beaten by 5 or more in the League this season, so it does happen occasionally to big sides too.


Fiorentina were awful last night at home to Juve even considering they were down to ten men and were 5 down with a full 18 minutes to go, and i watched Lazio being taken apart by Palermo a few weeks ago, both clubs that would usually harbour some hopes of European football (note Lazio scored at the end to "only" lose 5-1). So you you could not just take 3 points off a rival club with European aspirations, you could gain 4 on them. The crowds flowed out of the ground very early after the Fiorentina game,whether the potential of the humiliation of a docked point could have kept things more interesting. So maybe i will submit this idea to Sepp and Co rather than just the Premier League

I think it would keep things a bit more interesting at both ends of the table!

Have you played in a match where you lose by 5 goals or more? It can be difficult to have the same motivation as if it was 0-0, it's not lack or heart, it's just natural. Idea wouldn't work and I definitely wouldn't be in favour of it.

[stankratz]

There seems to be be a few feathers ruffled as a result of Utd's result! I wonder if West Brom had have trounced Wigan 5-0 yesterday and Utd merely scrapped a 1-1 draw with Wolves today, would this thread exist?

I respect your idea Pheonix but just don't see it as a runner. Just seeing the few people mentioning it here, the awarding of a bonus point for victories of a certain margin is something that I'd be in favour of. Many teams in the Premier League in recent seasons have managed to put up a cricket score (somehow) against another team at some stage. A bonus point for a large winning margin would benefit a lot more teams, where the OP's proposal would mainly just wreak havoc on the relegation battlers, not withstanding the odd hammering of top teams. I still can't get it right in my head that City beat us 6-1 at home, or anywhere for that matter

[RiseToTheTop]

No, I like football as it is ATM.

We don't need an "Americanization" of the sport at all.

A team aims to win 3 points, if they play well they get 5 goals, simple as. It helps the striker who scores most get closer to top scorer for the season, that's an ample enough award IMO.

[Sgt Pepper 64]

Originally Posted by Mushy

Or SgtPepper64 idiotic post in the match thread?

And yet here are some people showing that they are indeed capable of discussing a "left of field" idea in a calm and intelligent manner.

As usual, I exposed those who can only mutter rude insults and dismissive remarks, with the expected thuggery tendencies u woukld expect to see on the terraces

Praise be to the boards minority who stand head and shoulders above them

My work continues

[Will I Amnt]

Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper 64

And yet here are some people showing that they are indeed capable of discussing a "left of field" idea in a calm and intelligent manner.

As usual, I exposed those who can only mutter rude insults and dismissive remarks, with the expected thuggery tendencies u woukld expect to see on the terraces

Praise be to the boards minority who stand head and shoulders above them

My work continues

No,a precious Liverpool fan hijacked your post and made a ridiculous thread out of it.

[stankratz]

In fairness Sgt. Pepper, your OP screamed of someone who was utterly depressed at the Utd result I think it is hard enough on a team who gets trounced in a match without them getting docked a point also. Fair enough if a team evidently and deliberately lies down for another, actions should then be taken. But Wolves played with heart today and they were reduced to 10 men. It's just the nature of the game.

[Sgt Pepper 64]

Originally Posted by stankratz

In fairness Sgt. Pepper, your OP screamed of someone who was utterly depressed at the Utd result I think it is hard enough on a team who gets trounced in a match without them getting docked a point also. Fair enough if a team evidently and deliberately lies down for another, actions should then be taken. But Wolves played with heart today and they were reduced to 10 men. It's just the nature of the game.

I disagree with your assessment of Wolves playing with heart.

As someone who has no vested interest in who wins the league between the two, I feel robbed of the spectacle of an exciting finish somewhat

Wolves truly were woeful in set piece defending and indeed general defending

I agree theres no conspiracy and its just the way the cookie crumbles, but it was very timely and I do feel that Utd were handed an unfair advantage by Wolves not turning up

[Sgt Pepper 64]

Originally Posted by cambo2008

No,a precious Liverpool fan hijacked your post and made a ridiculous thread out of it.

You call it ridiculous because you disagree with it.
Other people decided they would like to discuss it

Live with it

[blatantrereg]

Imagine how cheated they'd feel if they came back to scrape a draw after goign 5-0 down.

[Mushy]

Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper 64

And yet here are some people showing that they are indeed capable of discussing a "left of field" idea in a calm and intelligent manner.

As usual, I exposed those who can only mutter rude insults and dismissive remarks, with the expected thuggery tendencies u woukld expect to see on the terraces

Praise be to the boards minority who stand head and shoulders above them

My work continues

Well I was just asking the OP whether he had the idea or was it just bred from yout post in the United match thread.

Oddly enough Chelsea then went and scored 5 today too. I'd find the whole idea to be similar to the time Wolves got fined for using their squad. Hammerings happen, it can just be left at that.

[kitakyushu]

No I don't think teams should be punished for conceding too many goals. They're punished enough by losing the game and screwing up their goal difference. Most weak teams already play negatively enough without giving them yet another reason to put 10 behind the ball.

[Will I Amnt]

Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper 64

You call it ridiculous because you disagree with it.
Other people decided they would like to discuss it

Live with it

I call it ridiculous because if any of the other 19 teams in the league beat a 10 man Wolves team 5-0 this thread doesn't exist.

[St.Spodo]

We love football as it is so I'm always skeptical towards these gimmicks. We don't need them to enjoy the game. Leave that sort of thing to the Americans.

[greendom]

Originally Posted by Phoenix Park

Careful now, keep thinking that way and you'll make it two people that think it would be a better system, one of us is enough

Except I don't think DB21 has understood your idea. It's not that a team loses by 5 clear goals, just that they concede 5 goals. In your scenario, the losing team will shut up shop for fear of conceding 5. DB21's idea has slightly more merit, even though I don't agree with it either.

[stankratz]

I can think of other reasons why a team should be docked points; Persistent racism by the fans, a reckless tackle resulting in the early retirement/long term injury of another player, but NEVER should a team be docked for just being shíte on the day and getting hammered by a far superior team. In fact lets just leave the 'points docking' the way it is, i.e. when a club goes into administration, which I think is harsh anyway.

Sgt. Pepper you will still get your exciting finish. By the time Utd play again, City could be 2 points ahead of us. The league is very far from over. I'm outta here now.