Originally Posted by Clareboy
Some of great countries of Europe like France, Spain, Portugal and Italy are built from Roman Catholic foundations so we are in good company!
I'm baffled that you'd pick a country like France, where Christianity drove the genocide of the Cathars and Catholic mobs butchered protestants. More to the point, it is today completely secular at state level.
For example, girls indoctrinated into islam are not allowed to wear burkas/niqabs etc, into state schools and teachers are not allowed to wear religious paraphernalia like crosses when working in state schools.
And Portugal and Spain enforced Catholicism at the point of a sword under Franco and Salazar.
Are those the kinds of foundations we want to build our nation on?
And this is besides the point. **** foundations - there is no merit gained by something simply through it having happened in the past.
We should be striving in a direction based on it's merit, and the only direction of any merit is one of secular democracy.
It keeps alive the enlightenment values of personal liberty, freedom of expression and while it protects the big things like freedom of and from religion, it also encompasses the little things like a state broadcaster playing the angelus or the state forcing a type of business to close based on religious ideals.