[DarkJager]

Originally Posted by Clareboy

The Roman Catholic Church is the largest Christian denomination in the world and it is not a cult! Here in County Clare, the churches are packed every Sunday and that is the case all over the country except maybe in some of the larger cities. The atheists are having a field day tonight!

It's a pedophile cult that likes sexual activity with kids. I don't know what's worse, the scumbag preaching priests or the cretins that still blindly follow it and try to defend its actions.

[Clareboy]

Originally Posted by doovdela

Plus Ireland might have got their country back and all in one piece and at a sooner decade only for the Catholic religion!? Despite strong protestant religion in Dublin before the State of Independence and having Protestant religions/church of Ireland around parts of Ireland too along side the Catholic religion just that the Catholic religion just happened to be more popular though at some point the Protestant/church of Ireland was more common during brief periods before the State of Independence just that it died out the same will happen to the Catholic religion.

I can assure you that the Catholic Church in Ireland will not die out. It survived the Penal Laws and all kinds of persecutions. It will be around long after you and I are long forgotten.

[Clareboy]

Originally Posted by DarkJager

It's a pedophile cult that likes sexual activity with kids. I don't know what's worse, the scumbag preaching priests or the cretins that still blindly follow it and try to defend its actions.

If you want to talk about pedophiles, we can discuss pedophile teachers, pedophile doctors, pedophile swimming coaches, pedophile parents, pedophile barmen, pedophile window cleaners, pedophile taxi drivers - pedophile judges - take you pick!

[zenno]

Originally Posted by Sisko

Why should I be forced to close my pub for a religion I am not a part of?

I don't usually support publicans but I will on this.

It's high time we got rid of this garbage of church rule. as you say it's 2012 and we are still constricted by this draconian smudge of sh1t. they need to move with the times.

And yes, it is discrimination.

[doovdela]

Originally Posted by Clareboy

I can assure you that the Catholic Church in Ireland will not die out. It survived the Penal Laws and all kinds of persecutions. It will be around long after you and I are long forgotten.

Maybe so but that was cause the Brits forced the Irish to do so secretly! Just cause they couldn't get it out of them then doesn't mean it will last forever more, not everything is meant to last just look at the Protestant faith it died out at some point in Ireland so can't see the Catholic religion lasting.

May not be the best example but in the case of potatoes, only for Ireland mainly focusing on that and eating alternatives there might not have been a famine. Now there are plenty alternatives to potatoes not everyone eats it! So some eat pasta and or rice instead. Its all down to popularity and likes and dislikes all comes down to that like.

Ireland wasn't a Catholic Country since 1500's it was predominately Protestant/church of Ireland in the 1600's despite a majority of the population being catholic during these centuries!

[Cian92]

Originally Posted by DarkJager

This country is no longer christian. That's a point people like you seem to be missing. The majority of this country despises the pedophile catholic church and the poor brainwashed imbeciles who still try to defend its actions. That Ireland is dead and gone, and you'd better get used to the fact that people want their liberties.

No longer Christian, yet 86.8% call themselves Roman Catholic? You may be dreaming when you say say the country is no longer christian.

The Roman Catholic Church is the largest Christian denomination in the world and it is not a cult! Here in County Clare, the churches are packed every Sunday and that is the case all over the country except maybe in some of the larger cities. The atheists are having a field day tonight!

My local church will also be packed in the morning, all the masses over the weekend will be too.

I would actually say that the pubs should be open Good Friday, however with the carry on of some people here, calling it a cult, I would nearly call for the ban to be still enforced.

I wouldn't want to stick my religion down anyone's throat, why stick your lack of a religion down every bodies throat - it makes no sense to complain something is forced on you, and then force your views upon other people.

Cop on.

[the scrote]

Originally Posted by Clareboy

If you want to talk about pedophiles, we can discuss pedophile teachers, pedophile doctors, pedophile swimming coaches, pedophile parents, pedophile barmen, pedophile window cleaners, pedophile taxi drivers - pedophile judges - take you pick!

ok then let's talk about pedophile doctors,the HSE doesn't protect them,
pedophile barmen,the vitners federation doesn't protect them.
pedophile judges,minister for justice doesn't protect them
pedophile priests,the vatican doesn't pr.........oh wait

[zenno]

This thread is going way out of topic ?. pedo's and stuff ???? WTF.

[Gbear]

Originally Posted by Clareboy

Some of great countries of Europe like France, Spain, Portugal and Italy are built from Roman Catholic foundations so we are in good company!

I'm baffled that you'd pick a country like France, where Christianity drove the genocide of the Cathars and Catholic mobs butchered protestants. More to the point, it is today completely secular at state level.
For example, girls indoctrinated into islam are not allowed to wear burkas/niqabs etc, into state schools and teachers are not allowed to wear religious paraphernalia like crosses when working in state schools.

And Portugal and Spain enforced Catholicism at the point of a sword under Franco and Salazar.

Are those the kinds of foundations we want to build our nation on?

And this is besides the point. **** foundations - there is no merit gained by something simply through it having happened in the past.
We should be striving in a direction based on it's merit, and the only direction of any merit is one of secular democracy.
It keeps alive the enlightenment values of personal liberty, freedom of expression and while it protects the big things like freedom of and from religion, it also encompasses the little things like a state broadcaster playing the angelus or the state forcing a type of business to close based on religious ideals.

[quickbeam]

Discrimination.

You're not supposed to eat meat on Good Friday either so they should really force all the butchers to close that day too!

Frankly, if you're religious and don't want to drink, then don't. If you're a religious pub owner and don't want to sell drink, then don't. But even if 90% of the population consider themselves Catholic by the census I'd guarantee that only a tiny fraction of those would follow that rule - you only have to see the peak sales on Holy Thursday to realise that.

[zenno]

Originally Posted by quickbeam

Discrimination.

You're not supposed to eat meat on Good Friday either so they should really force all the butchers to close that day too!

Very valid point.

We need to excommunicate these rules by a very ancient organization that holds no benefits to economic growth and which restricts freedoms of the citizens of Ireland.

[DEFTLEFTHAND]

Originally Posted by DarkJager

They strangled this country for decades and successive idiotic governments didn't dare to say a word. That church is filth, and the sooner we cut it out of our society like the cancer it is, the better it will be for everyone.

I think you have an extreme and emotional view of the church and that may be due to some circumstance that I'm unaware of. It's fine for you to declare no interest and decide you want nothing to do with religion but its not ok for you to pedal your militant Atheist agenda. People are entitled to have their faith and you have to learn to deal with that.

[al28283]

Originally Posted by Clareboy

I admit that the Catholic Church made mistakes in the past

Liike believing in a god?

[al28283]

Originally Posted by DEFTLEFTHAND

I think you have an extreme and emotional view of the church and that may be due to some circumstance that I'm unaware of. It's fine for you to declare no interest and decide you want nothing to do with religion but its not ok for you to pedal your militant Atheist agenda. People are entitled to have their faith and you have to learn to deal with that.

if one group is entitled to their extremist views then why shouldnt another?

[the scrote]

Originally Posted by DEFTLEFTHAND

I think you have an extreme and emotional view of the church and that may be due to some circumstance that I'm unaware of. It's fine for you to declare no interest and decide you want nothing to do with religion but its not ok for you to pedal your militant Atheist agenda. People are entitled to have their faith and you have to learn to deal with that.

you've just contradicted yourself there.you say it's fine to declare no interest & decide we want nothing to do with religion.ok then open the pubs good friday & let us decide whether we want to go for a pint or not.Is religion not supposed to be a personal thing?well keep it to yourselves.