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lasersquad · 09-03-2012, 15:31

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Originally Posted by kellso81

Can I throw this into the ring?

Finally, a microcomputer gem!

On the Amiga note, can`t believe Shaq Fu was written by Delphine Software :/

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Originally Posted by Retr0gamer

the absolute abomination that is Legend of Dragoon

I take it you didn`t sign the petition for the sequel then? ;)

**CiDeRmAn** · 09-03-2012, 16:14

Well, Delphine probably did a marvelous job of the character animation but the engine simply wasn't up to the genre of sh1te basketball player licence, a tough game type to succeed in to be sure!
Lets just try and let them have a pass on that one, given how utterly superb Flashback is.
I found/still find Another World to be a glorified, over-rated, QTE game, but without the benefit of onscreen prompting, instead relying on the player to remember which button is randomly assigned to preform the required action this time, well maybe that's a tad harsh but it wasn't anything like as good as people though it was, outside of the cinemas.
Flashback was far better made, better looking and had story and gameplay to boot.

lasersquad · 09-03-2012, 16:44

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Originally Posted by CiDeRmAn

I found/still find Another World to be a glorified, over-rated, QTE game...

I find Flashback to be by-the-numbers, slick-but-tedious platformer...that were ten a penny back then - compared to the jaw-dropping lesson in how games can be different that was AW (written by one guy btw)
Somehow I actually doubt that this were your actual thoughts then. Now, yeah, that`s easy - but not then. Hell, the term QTE wasn`t even invented. But if so, you were one edgy, sharp teen :)

Oh well...doubt`ll agree on this one ;) Anyway, I was thinking more about Future Wars/Cruise for a Corpse for some reason. AW= Eric Chahi.

Andrew76 · 09-03-2012, 16:49

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Originally Posted by lasersquad

On the Amiga note, can`t believe Shaq Fu was written by Delphine Software :/

Jebus me neither! Thankfully I'm blissfully ignorant of the sh1teness that is Shaq-Fu.

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Originally Posted by CiDeRmAn

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I found/still find Another World to be a glorified, over-rated, QTE game, but without the benefit of onscreen prompting, instead relying on the player to remember which button is randomly assigned to preform the required action this time, well maybe that's a tad harsh but it wasn't anything like as good as people though it was, outside of the cinemas.
Flashback was far better made, better looking and had story and gameplay to boot.

Another World an overrated QTE game with randomly assigned buttons? I don't recall it being like that at all. Only played the Amiga version but it was excellent I thought.

Hmmm maybe my troll detector is broken.

**EnterNow** · 09-03-2012, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Andrew76

Thankfully I'm blissfully ignorant of the sh1teness that is Shaq-Fu.

It's very, very bad. In this case, ignorance is bliss.

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Originally Posted by Andrew76

Another World an overrated QTE game with randomly assigned buttons? I don't recall it being like that at all. Only played the Amiga version but it was excellent I thought.

Hmmm maybe my troll detector is broken.

Another World felt really immersive & different. I loved it, still do

Andrew76 · 09-03-2012, 16:57

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Originally Posted by EnterNow

Another World felt really immersive & different. I loved it, still do

Agreed. That bit with the water chasing after you was terrifying!

As for the op; I can't argue with Ico, Link to the Past or SMW although I would have chosen SMB3 instead, purely for sentimental reasons.

**CiDeRmAn** · 09-03-2012, 17:08

Ah look, I just didn't get Another World, I played it on a series of formats and just never enjoyed it.
Loved the look of the game but the gameplay just felt like appropriate button presses, that said most games I love involve button pressing at some point!
Flashback was more fun, for me at least, the whole thing felt more like a good sci-fi yarn, with escaping the jungle, doing some courier work and the whole "Running Man" style killing game show in there as well.
I also really liked Fade to Black, the 3D sequel on the PC, PS and Sat, I had the PC and PS versions and finished them both, very enjoyable imho and it was years before I played something that was as satisfying oddly enough, it had cover mechanics and the like years before Splinter Cell and Gears of War came along.

As for the QTE comment by me, apologies, but, in Another World, if you don't hit the right button at just the right time, if you don't duck and shoot at just the right moment it's back to the last checkpoint with you, and I hope you liked the associated cinema because, if you are having trouble getting the timing right you're going to be seeing it a good few times more!

lasersquad · 09-03-2012, 17:16

Well, it wasn`t like Flashback, of course which is what made it great. And it wasn`t as bad as you describe - it took few tries with various things but mainly because we were stuck with the old thinking patterns. So I have to move left/right to swing the cage? Sounds obvious but took me awhile to figure, just because I didn`t expect that such things are even possible. (If you don`t duck & shoot at the right moment in most games you`re dead too! (ok just teasin).
Fade to Black was grand and massively overlooked. I love the happy end to Mr Chachi`s story in the form of From Dust - coming back to the dev bizniz after such cult following and 15 years wasn`t easy, but he`s done awright.

(thought this thread was started to prevent derailing of others? ;)

**Retr0gamer** · 09-03-2012, 17:57

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Originally Posted by lasersquad

I take it you didn`t sign the petition for the sequel then?

I fully support Sony's decision to pretend that they never created the worst JRPG ever made.

**CiDeRmAn** · 09-03-2012, 18:13

Oh, we're all about thread de-railing here.
It's all Sparks fault for not paying attention!

lasersquad · 09-03-2012, 18:44

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Originally Posted by CiDeRmAn

Oh, we're all about thread de-railing here

Grand. I wanted to be a smartass and post a pic of Eric Chahi sporting impeccable grin (after reading your post no doubt :). That can be found here, but nevermind - it got eclipsed by the fact I`ve just discovered a true sequel to Another World??? And it`s not Heart Of Darkness...

I`m humbled. And elated. Retro expert, right.
Hell, thanx CiDeRmAn!
(Now, to the Emupara...zzzzzzzzz)

**Retr0gamer** · 09-03-2012, 20:04

It's supposedly a bit crap and eric chahi had nothing to do with it. In fact he hates the game.

**CiDeRmAn** · 09-03-2012, 20:08

The MegaCD game, very good, not quite official though, Chani never accepted it as canon.

**CiDeRmAn** · 09-03-2012, 20:09

Damn, retr0 got in there ahead of me... Curses!

lasersquad · 09-03-2012, 21:25

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Originally Posted by Retr0gamer

eric chahi had nothing to do with it

"E-BOREDOM: Did you originally have a sequel in mind when creating Out of This World?

ERIC CHAHI: Not at all. This sequel was decided from the pressure of Interplay. I never had the initiative to do a sequel. So instead of a real sequel, I thought it would be much more interesting to replay the game from the alien's point of view."

Maybe he did, after all? Regardless of what Wikipedia says? Figure we`ll never know unless someone was there, then.But yes, he does dislike it, and yes - it`s probably not as good as the first one. Do I care? Nope.

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09-03-2012, 16:14	#32
CiDeRmAn Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Black Mesa can kiss my bankrupt ass! Posts: 12,543 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Arcade & Retro, Arcade & Retro Trading & Swapping	Well, Delphine probably did a marvelous job of the character animation but the engine simply wasn't up to the genre of sh1te basketball player licence, a tough game type to succeed in to be sure! Lets just try and let them have a pass on that one, given how utterly superb Flashback is. I found/still find Another World to be a glorified, over-rated, QTE game, but without the benefit of onscreen prompting, instead relying on the player to remember which button is randomly assigned to preform the required action this time, well maybe that's a tad harsh but it wasn't anything like as good as people though it was, outside of the cinemas. Flashback was far better made, better looking and had story and gameplay to boot.

09-03-2012, 17:08	#37
CiDeRmAn Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Black Mesa can kiss my bankrupt ass! Posts: 12,543 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Arcade & Retro, Arcade & Retro Trading & Swapping	Ah look, I just didn't get Another World, I played it on a series of formats and just never enjoyed it. Loved the look of the game but the gameplay just felt like appropriate button presses, that said most games I love involve button pressing at some point! Flashback was more fun, for me at least, the whole thing felt more like a good sci-fi yarn, with escaping the jungle, doing some courier work and the whole "Running Man" style killing game show in there as well. I also really liked Fade to Black, the 3D sequel on the PC, PS and Sat, I had the PC and PS versions and finished them both, very enjoyable imho and it was years before I played something that was as satisfying oddly enough, it had cover mechanics and the like years before Splinter Cell and Gears of War came along. As for the QTE comment by me, apologies, but, in Another World, if you don't hit the right button at just the right time, if you don't duck and shoot at just the right moment it's back to the last checkpoint with you, and I hope you liked the associated cinema because, if you are having trouble getting the timing right you're going to be seeing it a good few times more!

09-03-2012, 17:16	#38
lasersquad Closed Account Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 58 Adverts \| Friends	Well, it wasn`t like Flashback, of course which is what made it great. And it wasn`t as bad as you describe - it took few tries with various things but mainly because we were stuck with the old thinking patterns. So I have to move left/right to swing the cage? Sounds obvious but took me awhile to figure, just because I didn`t expect that such things are even possible. (If you don`t duck & shoot at the right moment in most games you`re dead too! (ok just teasin). Fade to Black was grand and massively overlooked. I love the happy end to Mr Chachi`s story in the form of From Dust - coming back to the dev bizniz after such cult following and 15 years wasn`t easy, but he`s done awright. (thought this thread was started to prevent derailing of others? ;)

09-03-2012, 18:13	#40
CiDeRmAn Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Black Mesa can kiss my bankrupt ass! Posts: 12,543 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Arcade & Retro, Arcade & Retro Trading & Swapping	Oh, we're all about thread de-railing here. It's all Sparks fault for not paying attention!

09-03-2012, 20:04	#42
Retr0gamer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brig City Posts: 29,819 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Game Development, Games, Japanese RPG, Nintendo, Resident Evil	It's supposedly a bit crap and eric chahi had nothing to do with it. In fact he hates the game.

09-03-2012, 20:08	#43
CiDeRmAn Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Black Mesa can kiss my bankrupt ass! Posts: 12,543 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Arcade & Retro, Arcade & Retro Trading & Swapping	The MegaCD game, very good, not quite official though, Chani never accepted it as canon.

09-03-2012, 20:09	#44
CiDeRmAn Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Black Mesa can kiss my bankrupt ass! Posts: 12,543 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Arcade & Retro, Arcade & Retro Trading & Swapping	Damn, retr0 got in there ahead of me... Curses!