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**helimachoptor** · 26-03-2012, 14:20

Will do, just want to clarify one thing.

Are we going to be recreating the time left in the game?

SantryRed · 26-03-2012, 14:38

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Originally Posted by helimachoptor

Will do, just want to clarify one thing.

Are we going to be recreating the time left in the game?

No, recreate the scoreline and play from there. I did this once before where we recreated the time and it's the most boring 30 minutes of your life. Kneel, Kneel, Kneel, Punt. And so on.

**helimachoptor** · 26-03-2012, 14:46

Yeah i agree with that Santry, ok the OP is updated

daflood · 06-04-2012, 13:55

There is a discussion going on in the Bowl thread, about whether there should be a min number of passes required in a game.

I would like to pipe up and say that running every single play should not be a problem, unless the same plays are being run constantly. Madden is not perfect, so sometimes a combination of a good o-lineman and an average D-lineman can result in the exact same perfect gap being there every time.

A draw and a screen are examples where Madden has it wrong, because even long after the back gets the ball, nobody on the D reacts except the human controlled player.

If a min pass limit was to be brought in, I think it would need to be a min number of passes to WR or TE.

ie: Screens and short handoffs to a back do not form part if the required amount.

**helimachoptor** · 06-04-2012, 14:06

I do not think a player should be required to pass whatsoever in the same way a player should not forced to run if they have Rodgers and 5 WRs rated at 99.

Up to the player what they want to do IMO

matthew8 · 06-04-2012, 14:12

Even if the league were to tackle the Raiders style of play, we would end up using the same passing plays all day long.

empacher · 06-04-2012, 14:25

i think play calling shouldnt be regulated. I ran every single play against the dolphins. why pass if there isnt a need?

nerd69 · 06-04-2012, 15:24

moderating number of run and pass plays or percentage of run to pass plays makes it more unrealistic in my opinion. if you can run the ball and gain 3-4 yards a run keep doing it i remember the chargers doing it back when lt was the man.
in my opinion if the other team cant stop the run or pass its on them to improve it via trade or draft.
having said that if a team is running the same exact play i see an issue with it.

Berty44 · 06-04-2012, 15:54

If someone can use the same play every time and gets 3/4 yards and work their way up the field then fair play to them. If they can then it says you need to work on your defence. There are no magic runs in the game that guarantee 3/4 yards every time. Every single play run or pass can be defended.

I always say you learn more in any defeat that you do in victory. A lot of this game involves experience, by that I mean playing loads of games. The more you play, the more you see, the more you learn how to play better defence and stop certain things. If I come up against something I can't stop, when I get a chance I go to the practice field and figure out how for the next time. There are no plays that always work. I could not highlight enough how valuable time spent in practice mode is.

Matthew in your post you seem to be suggesting that people are having problems with the Raiders style of play???? I know I played the Raiders, the score was 41-3 so I had no problem with their style of play. I actually remember that game, I remember their particular style of offence, I was just fortunate I knew how to defend what they were trying to do. Thats what its all about really.

nerd69 · 06-04-2012, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Berty44

If someone can use the same play every time and gets 3/4 yards and work their way up the field then fair play to them. If they can then it says you need to work on your defence. There are no magic runs in the game that guarantee 3/4 yards every time. Every single play run or pass can be defended.

I always say you learn more in any defeat that you do in victory. A lot of this game involves experience, by that I mean playing loads of games. The more you play, the more you see, the more you learn how to play better defence and stop certain things. If I come up against something I can't stop, when I get a chance I go to the practice field and figure out how for the next time. There are no plays that always work. I could not highlight enough how valuable time spent in practice mode is.

Matthew in your post you seem to be suggesting that people are having problems with the Raiders style of play???? I know I played the Raiders, the score was 41-3 so I had no problem with their style of play. I actually remember that game, I remember their particular style of offence, I was just fortunate I knew how to defend what they were trying to do. Thats what its all about really.

i agree with this i think there are one or two defensive plays that are wayyy op ie. moving a lb to the outside on certain plays but i think there banned anyway

matthew8 · 06-04-2012, 16:04

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Originally Posted by Berty44

Matthew in your post you seem to be suggesting that people are having problems with the Raiders style of play???? I know I played the Raiders, the score was 41-3 so I had no problem with their style of play. I actually remember that game, I remember their particular style of offence, I was just fortunate I knew how to defend what they were trying to do. Thats what its all about really.

I'm suggesting the league doesn't like the Raiders and has it in for us.

nerd69 · 06-04-2012, 16:05

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Originally Posted by matthew8

I'm suggesting the league doesn't like the Raiders and has it in for us.

al davis lives on through you sir

**helimachoptor** · 06-04-2012, 16:09

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Originally Posted by nerd69

i agree with this i think there are one or two defensive plays that are wayyy op ie. moving a lb to the outside on certain plays but i think there banned anyway

moving LBs are fine, moving DEs from the line of scrimmage manually isnt allowed.
However if you audible and they move thats ok

Berty44 · 06-04-2012, 16:44

From what I remember to stop the Raiders I was using a very basic defence and did not have to make any manual adjustments.

Nice motivation Matthew, the persecution complex lol !!!

You are correct Heli, moving anyone off the DL is not allowed.

**adrian522** · 06-04-2012, 16:47

I don't think people should milk the same play over and over. Obviously I have no problems running the ball 40 times per game, but I'll use different plays.

I can understand people getting frustrated when the offense keeps running the same play, but the solution is to figure out a defense to stop it.

In madden 11 Raoul beat me by runnng to the outside constantly, his FB blocking my defender and him gaining 10 yards + every play, needless to say i've since figured out how to stop that one.

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26-03-2012, 14:20	#31
helimachoptor Talk to Heli Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 10,604 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Boards Team, Dental Issues, Madden NFL, Team Boardroom	Will do, just want to clarify one thing. Are we going to be recreating the time left in the game?

26-03-2012, 14:46	#33
helimachoptor Talk to Heli Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 10,604 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Boards Team, Dental Issues, Madden NFL, Team Boardroom	Yeah i agree with that Santry, ok the OP is updated

06-04-2012, 13:55	#34
daflood Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 79 Adverts \| Friends	There is a discussion going on in the Bowl thread, about whether there should be a min number of passes required in a game. I would like to pipe up and say that running every single play should not be a problem, unless the same plays are being run constantly. Madden is not perfect, so sometimes a combination of a good o-lineman and an average D-lineman can result in the exact same perfect gap being there every time. A draw and a screen are examples where Madden has it wrong, because even long after the back gets the ball, nobody on the D reacts except the human controlled player. If a min pass limit was to be brought in, I think it would need to be a min number of passes to WR or TE. ie: Screens and short handoffs to a back do not form part if the required amount.

06-04-2012, 14:06	#35
helimachoptor Talk to Heli Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 10,604 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Boards Team, Dental Issues, Madden NFL, Team Boardroom	I do not think a player should be required to pass whatsoever in the same way a player should not forced to run if they have Rodgers and 5 WRs rated at 99. Up to the player what they want to do IMO

06-04-2012, 14:12	#36
matthew8 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,942 Adverts \| Friends	Even if the league were to tackle the Raiders style of play, we would end up using the same passing plays all day long.

06-04-2012, 14:25	#37
empacher Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Galway Posts: 853 Adverts \| Friends	i think play calling shouldnt be regulated. I ran every single play against the dolphins. why pass if there isnt a need?

06-04-2012, 15:24	#38
nerd69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,931 Adverts \| Friends	moderating number of run and pass plays or percentage of run to pass plays makes it more unrealistic in my opinion. if you can run the ball and gain 3-4 yards a run keep doing it i remember the chargers doing it back when lt was the man. in my opinion if the other team cant stop the run or pass its on them to improve it via trade or draft. having said that if a team is running the same exact play i see an issue with it.

06-04-2012, 15:54	#39
Berty44 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 903 Adverts \| Friends	If someone can use the same play every time and gets 3/4 yards and work their way up the field then fair play to them. If they can then it says you need to work on your defence. There are no magic runs in the game that guarantee 3/4 yards every time. Every single play run or pass can be defended. I always say you learn more in any defeat that you do in victory. A lot of this game involves experience, by that I mean playing loads of games. The more you play, the more you see, the more you learn how to play better defence and stop certain things. If I come up against something I can't stop, when I get a chance I go to the practice field and figure out how for the next time. There are no plays that always work. I could not highlight enough how valuable time spent in practice mode is. Matthew in your post you seem to be suggesting that people are having problems with the Raiders style of play???? I know I played the Raiders, the score was 41-3 so I had no problem with their style of play. I actually remember that game, I remember their particular style of offence, I was just fortunate I knew how to defend what they were trying to do. Thats what its all about really.

06-04-2012, 16:44	#44
Berty44 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 903 Adverts \| Friends	From what I remember to stop the Raiders I was using a very basic defence and did not have to make any manual adjustments. Nice motivation Matthew, the persecution complex lol !!! You are correct Heli, moving anyone off the DL is not allowed.

06-04-2012, 16:47	#45
adrian522 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,115 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Madden NFL	I don't think people should milk the same play over and over. Obviously I have no problems running the ball 40 times per game, but I'll use different plays. I can understand people getting frustrated when the offense keeps running the same play, but the solution is to figure out a defense to stop it. In madden 11 Raoul beat me by runnng to the outside constantly, his FB blocking my defender and him gaining 10 yards + every play, needless to say i've since figured out how to stop that one.