[jamezito]

Originally Posted by Eramen

Yep, pretty much. Anyone who has read his own writings and Diaries has a glimpse into what he actually thought. Then again, people here seem to think Obama and the Democrats are not racist too Strange all considering.


“We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing.” -Che Guevera

“The black is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.”- Che Guevara


Just the tip of the iceberg.

Man that is soo out of context. read a revolutionary life by john lee anderson. you people are fuc&*n crazy to think he was a racist ! HIS BEST FRIEND WAS BLACK and so too was most of the people he was fighting with

[jamezito]

Originally Posted by jamezito

Man that is soo out of context. read a revolutionary life by john lee anderson. you people are fuc&*n crazy to think he was a racist ! HIS BEST FRIEND WAS BLACK and so too was most of the people he was fighting with

heres a quick quote that che wrote about victor dreke cruz ( very black) ....
On their return to Cuba in November 1965, Che wrote of Dreke in his report to Fidel: "He was ... one of the pillars on which I relied. The only reason I am not recommending that he be promoted is that he already holds the highest rank."

take your skewed out of context carp and put it somewhere else cabron

[DonkyPlonk]

if you build it they will come!

[Eramen]

Originally Posted by Nodin

...just the tip of the quote-mine more like it. That was written circa 1952 when he was 24. 13 years later he was fighting in the Congo for their indepencence. Peoples thoughts evolve. Well....some peoples.

...you know that Abraham Lincoln originally supported the idea of removing all blacks from the states?

He actually made similar remarks up to 65-66 while in Africa.

Wear the T-shirt with pride Nodin!

[jamezito]

Originally Posted by Eramen

Hitler had loads of black, Arab and Jewish friends too.

are you really saying that che guevara was racist ?

[Nodin]

Originally Posted by Eramen

He actually made similar remarks up to 65-66 while in Africa.

Wear the T-shirt with pride Nodin!

O now I remember. You're the genius who says that anti-racism is the same as racism.

[seachto7]

What's worse is "Gawlway" trying to portray this leftie hippie liberal image of a town that's just so cool maaaaan. It's fake and put on, and most people you meet from there seem to try oh so hard to put on this "I am so flaky, and my time management is ****e, because, you know, I'm from Galway, and you know, I'm so liberal".

It's a graveyard of broken dreams........

[Grayson]

Originally Posted by goose2005

Not really; both saw themselves as making a better world. That doesn't make their actions any more justifiable.

However, it's odd for the lefties to be praising a guy who was pretty much a racist and a homophobe.

How is he a racist when he's a caucasian, from a relatively wealthy background, who fought for the rights of hispanics in cuba and black people in africa?

Btw, I read a revolutionary life. I'd highly recommend it. He did some brutal things. Some can be justified as nessecary in fighting a war. They were no worse than the actions of any revolutionary, including our own.
Some went too far and i really can't bring myself to justify them.

But the ideal that he fought for was simple equality for all people. An end to poverty and an end to discrimination.
It's very different from Stalin or Hitler.

[wprathead]

Originally Posted by seachto7

What's worse is "Gawlway" trying to portray this leftie hippie liberal image of a town that's just so cool maaaaan. It's fake and put on, and most people you meet from there seem to try oh so hard to put on this "I am so flaky, and my time management is ****e, because, you know, I'm from Galway, and you know, I'm so liberal".

It's a graveyard of broken dreams........

nah we are just better than rest of Ireland

[galwayrush]

Originally Posted by seachto7

What's worse is "Gawlway" trying to portray this leftie hippie liberal image of a town that's just so cool maaaaan. It's fake and put on, and most people you meet from there seem to try oh so hard to put on this "I am so flaky, and my time management is ****e, because, you know, I'm from Galway, and you know, I'm so liberal".

It's a graveyard of broken dreams........

I'm here all my life, i've met very few people like that..

[czx]

Originally Posted by old hippy

And the Batista regime before that was all hunky dory, I guess?

Brilliant argument. Gloss over the present by referring to the past.

[Rocketmann]

I'm not even going to counter most of this twaddle. He didn't seek world domination or anihilation of a specific people or religion. He fought against the American puppet governments and the corporations that disenfranchised the indigenous populations of Latin America, something that they are still doing. He stood by his convictions rightly or wrongly and was murdered "without a proper trial", by the Bolivians/CIA/US army rangers whilst tied to a chair. But it seems that most legitimate governments are exempt from being branded murderers if they exact the same fate on their enemies.

It wasn't that long ago that a certain politician was lauded in Ireland, treated like one of their own, a superstar, who has countless lives and buckets of blood on his resume. Drone attacks on sovereign nations, his troops acquitted of mass killings and his corporations getting richer because of it. Che died years ago, you'd think these people would have bigger fish to fry.

[mikom]

Originally Posted by seachto7

What's worse is "Gawlway" trying to portray this leftie hippie liberal image of a town that's just so cool maaaaan. It's fake and put on, and most people you meet from there seem to try oh so hard to put on this "I am so flaky, and my time management is ****e, because, you know, I'm from Galway, and you know, I'm so liberal".

It's a graveyard of broken dreams........

It's a graveyard of ambition actually
If you're going to throw around tired cliches then at least try not to be so flaky and mix them up.
I surprised you didn't say "Boulevard of broken dreams" Billie Joe.

[johngalway]

Originally Posted by old hippy

And the Batista regime before that was all hunky dory, I guess?

I don't think Galway is looking to erect a Batista statue.

Originally Posted by jamezito

Cuba a $5i* hole ? why don`t you actually research something before you show how ignorant you are...

1. Cuba has one of the BEST if not the best healthcare system and education system in the WORLD !

2. Education and Healthcare is FREE !

3. Cuba has more doctors volunteering all over the world than ANY other country.

4. Politicans are elected through local community meetings by the people.

5. The revolution started with 82 yes 82 people and wait for it...... 20 people survived and from those 20 people they managed to get 90% of the people behind them and get rid of the US/Batista regeime. you wanna know where batista went ? MIAMI !!! Where is the opposition comming from now ? MAIMI.

If cuba is such a s*** hole why did so many of the people get behind the revolution, eh ?

Listen man, why dont you go back to watchin sky news, reading your tabloids and and get on with your ignorance believing that you know it all and you are well informed about such things.

I genuinely feel sorry for people like yourself, it`s prob not all your fault but you really should make an effort to dig a little deeper and really get to know what really happened in history or current affairs and don`t just make stuff up that you think might have happened or repeat what you heard on the news or other media.

My sincerest apologies, let me rephrase to more clearly make my point:

Politically repressed **** hole.

There, all better now.

[rkeano5]

Originally Posted by old hippy

And the Batista regime before that was all hunky dory, I guess?

Oh yes because two wrongs definitely make a right. I forgot about that.