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04-05-2012, 20:37   #46
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I don't know if it was the file or the production, but the opening scene in the car was so effin' dark. So, Gwen's back - yawn. The scene with her dad was weird/creepy.

The girl staying with Mitch was bound to steal stuff. Linden/Holder's superior is still blocking warrants.

Still generally keeping the conspiracy angle ticking over.

But ya know, this is the way of these things. The slow drudgery of police work.

Once again, the AV Club weren't too impressed with this one, though I think sometimes what's in the comments section is actually fairer than the reviews.
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Hmm, I'm hovering over labelling this one as being a little fillery which may be unfair. There were a few bits that stretch credibility a little, but I think you can let those slide. More at issue - the political shenanigans. I can believe that the Richmond campaign would do anything to get Stan Larsen's support, but I just didn't buy how Stan did a 180 after Darren came along with a personal apology. From that moment on it was inevitable that he would show up at the press conference and I don't mean it can't happen, but as a piece of writing, I didn't like it too much. Also, Stan's knocking back the beers a bit, eh? I feel a bit sorry for the guy playing him as he's being given some fairly ropey dialogue to work with. Also, the hospital as a staging post for a press conference, posters and all...nope.

I liked the mini confrontation between Linden and Holder re her parenting skills, but I thought they could have made that scene a little longer. He could at least have offered some sort of false hope and told her that she's not a crappy parent. Presumably it's someone in the police department, or someone with connections, that called the child protection services. Foolish for her and Jack to run.

So we're at the midway point now - I'm too invested to ditch it. The whole Indian burial ground/we police our own thing is obviously there to make us think we're getting closer to the final answer, but it won't. Enjoyed Holder's antics in getting around the casino and there was the odd note of humour here again.

Still missing Mitch - Michelle Forbes.
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This season has been a massive let down for me, the Rosie storyline has gotten stale. Stan and Mitch had some greats scenes in the first series, but am really bored by them this season. At this stage I hope that Linden gets her kid taken off her. The only thing interesting now is the Richmond campaign. Hopefully the show picks up next week with the aftermath of Holder's beating.
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Did anyone see next weeks preview ?
Did it make out like Holder had been killed ?
If he's dead I'll be seriously peed off !!!
I love him, he's the best thing about the show.

I can't help but feel he may be killed off though as the season needs a bit of
a jolt
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I don't think they will. It would be too much of a distraction and would probably involve more grief and funeral scenes which they probably don't want to do to avoid taking away from the main story. A more minor character might die, I reckon.
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This was a better episode. It's a little late in game now - if they had this standard from the start it would have improved the quality of episodes we've seen up to this point. Some human moments that worked pretty well. It's a strength that they can take the time to do that, or rather, execute it well. I think before it seemed a bit laboured, but it worked here. The search for Holder didn't drag on. Yes, he recovery was pretty quick, but his scene with the young kid was fun. His nephew, I think.

The professional and personal cost of the investigation is being felt more intensely now. Also, why was Lt. Carlson holding things up again?

I don't fully understand chief Jackson's motivation apart from hiding things, greed/money and maybe some political favours, what else is motivating her? I'm assuming there's still some red herring in there, mind. The scene between Stan Larsen was going too well - bam lunatic psychic lady.
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Still solid enough here. Entertaining antics from Holder in the casino, that was good fun. Michelle Forbes is back, but not really...she needs to return home. Still, some good scenes with Stan this week. They seemed to completely drop Linden's child protective services thing. OK, she's off the case and all the files are gone, but ya know. I liked Darren telling the Indian chief where to go, but maybe they're stereotyping that group a little bit.

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These most recent episodes have had a bit of forward momentum building towards the finale, this one felt no different to me, but I think those who didn't like it might just call it a holding pattern piece.

The scenes between Linden and her psychiatrist were pretty good, though I could have lived without Linden blowing up about not getting out initially. It fits that she'd be annoyed, but we've seen that so many times on TV re psych hospitals - people fighting, being restrained, blah blah. Anyway, not much of a complaint since that didn't happen much and the 1:1 scenes were the bulk of the depiction of Linden and her psych. I did read one review by someone who said they didn't buy Linden as an obsessive cop and I'm inclined to agree. Long hours, self-neglect, etc...still doesn't mean obsessive, not compared to other TV cops, imo.

Holder again showed himself to be pretty dependable. I can't fully remember why Lt. Carlson was there - he suspended her, but was he also hoping to help get Linden out? If so, was that only after Holder told him about the case files being missing or..?

The Indian chief and mayor's alleged shenanigans probably both still point towards red herrings, I suspect.

One or two scenes just seemed a little thrown in there, e.g., Stan meeting the teacher he assaulted. OK, he was fixing the light, it really just seemed like they brought him back for next to nothing. Same with Linden's other psych, Callum Keith Rennie, just passing through, though he pretty much said that outright.

Gwen's still boring.
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I think one of the problems with this show is that, in general, the beat of certain scenes comes across as a little awkward or wrongfooted. It's not that the scenes are bad, they just seem clumsy. The politics is getting pretty dirty now. I do think the show deserves some credit for keeping the Larsen story and Holder/Linden's investigation somewhat integrated, otherwise they'd feel very detached from each other. That said, we still essentially know sod all about Rosie. Also liked the scene where Linden managed to lift the keycard - nicely done, though the CCTV footage from the lift seemed a little excessive and was only to show Chief Jackson getting into rage.

Yanik asking Stan to kill some guy seemed a bit out of nowhere, I thought.

Mitch is back, finally.

So, the shadow of suspicion shifts back to Darren Richmond. I suppose that was inevitable off the back of his speech, which seemed pretty well done and frank. Something had to deflate it, but come on, someone could have easily used his card. The Mayor in this show isn't terribly interesting. In the original, he was a bit more spirited. Here, he's only there to service the HE MIGHT HAVE DONE IT thing.

Gwen did it!
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Veena Sud still talking bollocks: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...ena-sud-332725
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Woah!.....only took two fracking seasons, but we **finally** find out who killed Rosie Larsen....tonight, let us know.........

http://www.examiner.com/article/amc-...-season-finale

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Is it worth watching lads? finished season 1 ages ago but never bothered with 2.
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Gwen did it!
Yup....looking that way, i suspected her the most through all of season 1, even without seeing S2 she makes the most sense, she found out about Rosie and Darren, crime of passion etc.

But knowing Sud i expect another rug pulled next week
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It was OK. As we're near finale time that means a little recap about how Rosie died and reminding us who she was. Positives were Holder and Linden finally doing some police work and their car scenes, plus a little humour and decent enough tape/camera footage scene near the end. Speaking of cars, though, it took long enough to get the info about the campaign from the car valet...meh.

Mitch's return is welcome, but that means salt in the wounds for Larsen storyline - generally back in grief mode, and well, her scenes with Stan and Terri are difficult and inevitable re the points being made, but I kinda wish they'd done some else with them.

The political stuff is OK, but really only that. In the original Danish version you actually feel like the politicians are fighting for their political lives, there was more fervour behind the inner workings of the campaign. In the AMC's version, it's integrated OK, but isn't as exciting.

So, now it's looking like Jamie, but it probably won't be him. He fast tracked some council or planning thing, so I presume he's doing favours and protecting someone. I did wonder if it might be Gwen's dad, but he's not been in it all that much, so probably not him, also. I can hardly remember who Michael Ames is.
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even without seeing S2 she makes the most sense, she found out about Rosie and Darren, crime of passion etc.

But knowing Sud i expect another rug pulled next week
exactly you haven't seen season 2 Richard, sorry to tell you your wrong, Rosie wasn't a prostitute she worked as a maid in the hotel and as a waitress,

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So, now it's looking like Jamie, but it probably won't be him. He fast tracked some council or planning thing, so I presume he's doing favours and protecting someone. I did wonder if it might be Gwen's dad, but he's not been in it all that much, so probably not him, also. I can hardly remember who Michael Ames is.
hes one of Rosies friends (boyfriend??) father,

there really trying to make it look like Jamie but id say it might be Ames, he has the most at steak in this, hes divorcing his wife who owns the four companies hes involved in, so having that fifth company for himself is essential,

only started watching season 2 yesterday, just caught up there, it was really addictive stuff i must say, none if these red herrings at the end of every episode like season 1, at one point there it was just totally up in the air, nobody was a suspect and everyone was a suspect, the thing i dont get is why it looks like they kicked the living **** out of Rosie in that room, with so much blood and all that, if she had only overheard a conversation,

im gonna say it was Ames anyway, i wouldn't be surprised is its Jamie but i cant see why he would be cleaning up Ames mess,

either way must say im really looking forward to the finale next week
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After Sunday night, you can post what you want. Anyone who wants to be surprised by the revelation should stay out of this thread until they've watched it (and make sure you unfollow the thread if you're following it with email alerts).
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