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02-03-2012, 17:30   #1
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is RTE 2 HD Coming To Sky?

As the title says, is RTE 2 HD coming to Sky, I've heard that it is on the 9th of April. Anyone hear anything?
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AFAIK its exclusive to upc.
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I've heard that it is on the 9th of April
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AFAIK its exclusive to upc.
Hardly when it is available FTA on Saorview.
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AFAIK its exclusive to upc.
I didn't read that t was exclusive but it did say in Wikipedia that it's coming to UPC on the 9th of April.
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Hardly when it is available FTA on Saorview.
Did UPC not announce this week that they got an exclusive deal on "pay tv" platform.
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Hardly when it is available FTA on Saorview.
Did UPC not announce this week that they got an exclusive deal on "pay tv" platform.

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Did UPC not announce this week that they got an exclusive deal on "pay tv" platform.

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What!? How can they possibly get an exclusive deal with a national broadcaster??
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Did UPC not announce this week that they got an exclusive deal on "pay tv" platform.

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How can a channel be exclusive to UPC if everybody can get it for free with the right equipment.

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What!? How can they possibly get an exclusive deal with a national broadcaster??
It is outrageous if this is true.
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It's not a reliable source but I saw it on twitter. Since I started the post, I rang Sky and they don't know anything about it, or should I rephrase that, the guy I was speaking to hadn't a clue what he was talking about.
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What!? How can they possibly get an exclusive deal with a national broadcaster??
They can't and none of the quotes seem to have them saying it. It looks like purely a lazy headline, it takes much longer to be added to sky epg, up to a couple of months. As they have a strict queue system, although a number of those channels wouldn't appear to meet sky's minimum requirements so they may not all appear on sky. Details on sky requirements and queue are public:


http://corporate.sky.com/documents/p...g_listings_EPG

I'd imagine if the channels appear on UPC in April, some or all of them will appear on sky a month or two later.
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They can't and none of the quotes seem to have them saying it. It looks like purely a lazy headline, it takes much longer to be added to sky epg, up to a couple of months. As they have a strict queue system, although a number of those channels wouldn't appear to meet sky's minimum requirements so they may not all appear on sky. Details on sky requirements and queue are public:


http://corporate.sky.com/documents/p...g_listings_EPG

I'd imagine if the channels appear on UPC in April, some or all of them will appear on sky a month or two later.
does rte2 HD even meet the minimum requirements for broadcasting HD content on sky?

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in the case of other channels, comply with any one (or more) of the options
below:
- the channel may consist of no less than 75% native HD
programmes provided that it also includes an amount of
native HD programmes that alone meets (without any
contribution from any non-native HD programmes) the
minimum number of hours of non-repeating programming
required to be broadcast under section 1.1; or
- the channel may include no less than 320 hours of nonrepeating native HD programmes in each 12 month period
provided that the channel includes no less than 70 hours of
non-repeating native HD programmes in each 3 month
period; or
- the channel may include no less than 500 hours of native HD
content in each 3 month period (which may include repeated
native HD content provided that the channel has a minimum
of no less than 40 hours of non-repeating native HD
programmes each calendar month).
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does rte2 HD even meet the minimum requirements for broadcasting HD content on sky?
320 hours a year is less than an hour a day. It would easily meet that I'd say? There was 7 hours or so last weekend for the rugby alone, the Olympics and European champs will have probably 320 hours on their own?
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What!? How can they possibly get an exclusive deal with a national broadcaster??
Could it be down to who pays carriage and distribution costs or epg position?

UPC said in a Dept of Comms consultation in late 2010 it would be willing to carry the additional Saorview channels under the same terms as the existing 4channels, maybe Sky are not?

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UPC’s cable and mmds platforms are currently subject to must carry obligations. At
present these obligations apply to RTÉ One, RTÉ Two, TV3 and TG4. The provisions
are also applicable to community channels and UPC presently carries both the Dublin
and Cork community channels. In the past UPC has been both supportive and willing
to have these channels included (at no cost to the channels themselves) in its basic TV
packages. UPC would expect that given RTÉ’s new services will be funded with state
finances these too will fall under the must carry provisions. In this regard, UPC would
expect that the current financial arrangements for must carry services would continue
for RTÉ’s proposed services; namely both RTÉ and UPC bear their own associated
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instance would mean that these new services would be made available to Sky’s
digital satellite platform on terms that were equivalent to those on which the same
services are provided to RTE’s proposed ‘Saorsat’ service, in order to avoid any
unnecessary and disproportionate distortion of competition.

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As the title says, is RTE 2 HD coming to Sky, I've heard that it is on the 9th of April. Anyone hear anything?
Hopefully, no. But if the state broadcaster is good at anything, it's selling out to foreign broadcasters.
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