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View Poll Results: Who would you vote for? General Election 2012
Fine Gael 84 27.81%
Fianna Fail 24 7.95%
Labour 22 7.28%
Sinn Fein 110 36.42%
Green Party 12 3.97%
Spoiled Vote 24 7.95%
Wouldn't Vote 26 8.61%
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01-03-2012, 08:55   #61
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I will never under any circumstances vote Sinn Fein and anyone who would consider voting for a party with SF's history and connections needs to seriously rethink their ideas and beliefs.

I will vote FG as I am not as bitter as many and I can see that they are doing what they have to to get us out a situation that was not their fault, but that they were left to clean up when the cowards in FF ran.
So, if you don't vote FG you're bitter? They don't seem to be doing anything different than a FF government would have done/do.
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I will never under any circumstances vote Sinn Fein and anyone who would consider voting for a party with SF's history and connections needs to seriously rethink their ideas and beliefs.

I will vote FG as I am not as bitter as many and I can see that they are doing what they have to to get us out a situation that was not their fault, but that they were left to clean up when the cowards in FF ran.
That's actually hilarious did you know FG has a history of connections to fascism?
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So, if you don't vote FG you're bitter? They don't seem to be doing anything different than a FF government would have done/do.
They locked down Dublin and Cork, snipers on rooftops and all, so the one from next door could parade around for a bit I don't think FF would have done that.
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01-03-2012, 08:59   #64
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I will never under any circumstances vote Sinn Fein and anyone who would consider voting for a party with SF's history and connections needs to seriously rethink their ideas and beliefs.

I will vote FG as I am not as bitter as many and I can see that they are doing what they have to to get us out a situation that was not their fault, but that they were left to clean up when the cowards in FF ran.
FG have gone back on most of their election promises, yes FF are cowards but imo FG are as bad.
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I will never under any circumstances vote Sinn Fein and anyone who would consider voting for a party with SF's history and connections needs to seriously rethink their ideas and beliefs.

I will vote FG as I am not as bitter as many and I can see that they are doing what they have to to get us out a situation that was not their fault, but that they were left to clean up when the cowards in FF ran.

And FG don't have history & connections ?. FF,FG,LABOUR have all connections to militant Republicanism and in four years time will be going out of there way to show how they are proud to have them connections.

:(As for who will I vote for in a GE,Even though I have voted SF last time I dont really know,getting a bit sick of the lot of them at this stage
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A vote for Sinn Féin is a vote for Ireland Ink.
to be fair at least SF keep cartridge world staff employed.
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That's actually hilarious did you know FG has a history of connections to fascism?
Ah yes, “history of connections to”. What a sinister sounding, but ultimately meaningless expression. The German chancellor, or her office, has “historical connections” to Nazism etc.

Can you point to any examples of fascist behavior/attitudes amongst contemporary (i.e. not dead for decades!) FG folks?

If you are looking for anti-democracy types in the current Dail, you need not look past Sinn Fein. And their connections aren’t yet very historical!

And even if there wasn’t this “difficulty” with them, only the most willfully deluded would think they, or any other party, would have done any better in the last year than FG/Lab.
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Poll needs more options there OP.
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So the poll so far has SF with an overall majority - these Boards polls are completely worthless.
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So the poll so far has SF with an overall majority - these Boards polls are completely worthless.
The poll is surely supposed to give a snapshot of AHers who check this thread. So, eh, yeah, you're right, kind of pointless. Especially so, given that the ULA aren't represented, yet have more parliamentary representation than the Greens, who are represented.
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to be fair at least SF keep cartridge world staff employed.
I'm sure they've seen their fair share of cartridges, back in the day

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Ah yes, “history of connections to”. What a sinister sounding, but ultimately meaningless expression. The German chancellor, or her office, has “historical connections” to Nazism etc.

Can you point to any examples of fascist behavior/attitudes amongst contemporary (i.e. not dead for decades!) FG folks?

If you are looking for anti-democracy types in the current Dail, you need not look past Sinn Fein. And their connections aren’t yet very historical!

And even if there wasn’t this “difficulty” with them, only the most willfully deluded would think they, or any other party, would have done any better in the last year than FG/Lab.
The treatment of the Irish citizens (on their deathbeds), who were the victims of the Hepatitis C scandal, by your Minister for Finance when he was Minister for Health may be something you may care to defend? After all, what's the lives of a few plebs, and their entitlement to justice, when compared with the reputations of the medical elite and the Dept. of Health? Shur, some of them weren't even graduates.

On your second point, even Colm McCarthy (An Bord Snip), a rabid SF hater, and darling of the Far-Right, admitted on National television, that he'd far rather have Pearse Doherty, negotiating in Brussels on behalf of the Irish people , than Michael Noonan.

And while I may detest McCarthy, and what he stands for, I'm not sure I'd call him wilfully deluded, and to hear someone from FG call him so, given his relationship with the Govt. seems a bit ironic.
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The treatment of the Irish citizens (on their deathbeds), who were the victims of the Hepatitis C scandal, by your Minister for Finance when he was Minister for Health may be something you may care to defend? After all, what's the lives of a few plebs, and their entitlement to justice, when compared with the reputations of the medical elite and the Dept. of Health? Shur, some of them weren't even graduates.
And this amount to fascism, how exactly?
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On your second point, even Colm McCarthy (An Bord Snip), a rabid SF hater, and darling of the Far-Right, admitted on National television, that he'd far rather have Pearse Doherty, negotiating in Brussels on behalf of the Irish people , than Michael Noonan.

And while I may detest McCarthy, and what he stands for, I'm not sure I'd call him wilfully deluded, and to hear someone from FG call him so, given his relationship with the Govt. seems a bit ironic.
And what do you think good ‘ol Pearsey might achieve? The fine speeches he makes that impress the gullible types around here won’t achieve much. We need the cheap money and we have precious little leverage to negotiate more favourable terms.

Unless you think we should go nuclear and perhaps sell one of our islands to the Chinese or Iran or something like that?

Oh, and I’m not "from" FG, or Labour. They are the best option at the moment only because the others are so bad.
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I think people suggesting that Sinn Fein will do anything different from the current lot should take a look at how they handle things in Northern Ireland. They spout a lot of rhetoric, but, faced with government, they seem to backtrack. Unless there's a serious difference between the two parties in the two different jurisdictions.
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Do most people here pick one party to vote for, regardless of who the candidates are in your constituency? I can't vote yet, but I would imagine when I can, I'll pick candidates individually, based on, y'know, their politics. From most of the replies it appears people pick a party, and not the individuals. Just strikes me as a bit strange.
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