[El Horseboxo]

Reckon I'll keep Bale. Even if he doesn't make this weekend he should be fine for the next one going by official club comments. He's a player that if you get rid of you'll be weakening your team elsewhere to get him back in. 0.7 is a big hit to take.

I've held onto Valencia. Lost .2 on him but who I was considering getting in for him scored 1 point last weekend. So wouldn't have been worth the 4 point hit. Have one free transfer now. Debating getting rid of him tonight but don't know who to bring in. Have Dempsey, Silva and McClean. 0.6 in the bank.

[shadowcomplex]

Originally Posted by El Horseboxo

Reckon I'll keep Bale. Even if he doesn't make this weekend he should be fine for the next one going by official club comments. He's a player that if you get rid of you'll be weakening your team elsewhere to get him back in. 0.7 is a big hit to take.

I've held onto Valencia. Lost .2 on him but who I was considering getting in for him scored 1 point last weekend. So wouldn't have been worth the 4 point hit. Have one free transfer now. Debating getting rid of him tonight but don't know who to bring in. Have Dempsey, Silva and McClean. 0.6 in the bank.

Kepp him, he should be back for westbrom at home

[DazzlerIE]

Aguero, Silva and Kompany all going up in price tonight

Makes Rooney even more affordable for people making the switch next week

[carlcon]

Originally Posted by El Horseboxo

Reckon I'll keep Bale. Even if he doesn't make this weekend he should be fine for the next one going by official club comments. He's a player that if you get rid of you'll be weakening your team elsewhere to get him back in. 0.7 is a big hit to take.

I've held onto Valencia. Lost .2 on him but who I was considering getting in for him scored 1 point last weekend. So wouldn't have been worth the 4 point hit. Have one free transfer now. Debating getting rid of him tonight but don't know who to bring in. Have Dempsey, Silva and McClean. 0.6 in the bank.

Fully agree with you on Bale, but I think the Valencia ship has sailed. He's the 3rd choice player out of him, Nani, and Young. Young's injury put him in the starting 11, and now his own injury at the same time Young is back fit is most likely resulting in them switching again. You better hope Young has a stinker against Spurs on Sunday, because a fit Nani is the 2nd player on the team sheet after Rooney.

[angerfist2009]

What does everyone think of Nani and McClean to replace Sessegnon and Valencia ???

If i bring in Nani for Valencia im 1.9 mil down so have to drop one my players and i aint droping bale or silva in midfield. Either i do that or i drop Ba and bring in the yak......

Any ideas??

[El Horseboxo]

Originally Posted by carlcon

Fully agree with you on Bale, but I think the Valencia ship has sailed. He's the 3rd choice player out of him, Nani, and Young. Young's injury put him in the starting 11, and now his own injury at the same time Young is back fit is most likely resulting in them switching again. You better hope Young has a stinker against Spurs on Sunday, because a fit Nani is the 2nd player on the team sheet after Rooney.

Nani is a player that I want to bring in. Him and Rooney to replace Agüero. I'd need to make 3 subs for that to happen. Don't want to take an 8 point hit this week. I can live with the 4 point hit next week. So I think I'll leave my team as it is for now. Not expecting much point wise as things stand with the amount of maybe's I have. Just gonna hope for the best.

[thegreengoblin]

Originally Posted by carlcon

Fully agree with you on Bale, but I think the Valencia ship has sailed. He's the 3rd choice player out of him, Nani, and Young. Young's injury put him in the starting 11, and now his own injury at the same time Young is back fit is most likely resulting in them switching again. You better hope Young has a stinker against Spurs on Sunday, because a fit Nani is the 2nd player on the team sheet after Rooney.

You really think that? I would be amazed if Valencia didn't go straight back into the team once he's fit, regardless of how well Young plays in the meantime. Valencia was playing brilliantly in the weeks before his injury and just because he gets injured doesn't mean he can be written off. I'm holding onto him anyway.

[shadowcomplex]

Originally Posted by carlcon

Fully agree with you on Bale, but I think the Valencia ship has sailed. He's the 3rd choice player out of him, Nani, and Young. Young's injury put him in the starting 11, and now his own injury at the same time Young is back fit is most likely resulting in them switching again. You better hope Young has a stinker against Spurs on Sunday, because a fit Nani is the 2nd player on the team sheet after Rooney.

Thats simply just not true, Valencia is Uniteds first choice rightsided winger, Ferguson trusts him more than nani and he is overall much more consistent, Rooney also scores much more when Valencia is in the team, when Valencia is fully fit it will be nani and young fighting over the left side

[carlcon]

Originally Posted by shadowcomplex

Thats simply just not true, Valencia is Uniteds first choice rightsided winger, Ferguson trusts him more than nani and he is overall much more consistent, Rooney also scores much more when Valencia is in the team, when Valencia is fully fit it will be nani and young fighting over the left side

What's that based on? Instead of just saying "you're wrong", I'll prove it. I've looked through a bunch of PL games between August-December when all 3 were fit to play, and only found 4.

All 4 had both Nani and Young ahead of Valencia.

3-1 against Chelsea
1-6 against City
1-1 against Liverpool (Nani and Valenica started on the bench, then Nani came on for Young. Valencia stayed benched).
1-1 against Newcastle

I came across a lot more than 4 games where Nani & Young played together too. I just skipped over the ones that Valenica wasn't named on the bench, in case he was injured (although I suspect it wasn't always due to injury)

Ever since Young was bought in the summer, Valencia has been 3rd choice winger. The games are there to be seen.

*edit* further research outside of the PL shows that Valencia was fit fora lot of those games when he wasn't on the bench, but was just played in the League Cup/Champions League instead, where Fergie played weakened teams. You don't play your #1 right winger in the league cup, then not even bench him in the big games.

[manual_man]

Originally Posted by carlcon

What's that based on? Instead of just saying "you're wrong", I'll prove it. I've looked through a bunch of PL games between August-December when all 3 were fit to play, and only found 4.

All 4 had both Nani and Young ahead of Valencia.

3-1 against Chelsea
1-6 against City
1-1 against Liverpool (Nani and Valenica started on the bench, then Nani came on for Young. Valencia stayed benched).
1-1 against Newcastle

Ever since Young was bought in the summer, Valencia has been 3rd choice winger. The games are there to be seen.

That doesnt factor in Valencia being brilliant when he got his chance... He's earned his right to stay in the starting 11 imo. Only Fergie knows, but i'm with the lads on this one, i think Valencia will keep his place on the right

[carlcon]

Originally Posted by manual_man

That doesnt factor in Valencia being brilliant when he got his chance... He's earned his right to stay in the starting 11 imo. Only Fergie knows, but i'm with the lads on this one, i think Valencia will keep his place on the right

Valencia is almost always brilliant when he gets the chance. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I love the guy, and would play him every single game. But Young is ahead of him in Fergie's books. Ferguson bought Young for a reason, and Nani is United's 3rd biggest player after Rooney and Vidic.

Anything can happen, and sure, maybe Valencia will play every game once he's fit again. But all we have is history, and history says he's 3rd choice.

[manual_man]

Originally Posted by carlcon

Valencia is almost always brilliant when he gets the chance. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I love the guy, and would play him every single game. But Young is ahead of him in Fergie's books. Ferguson bought Young for a reason, and Nani is United's 3rd biggest player after Rooney and Vidic.

Anything can happen, and sure, maybe Valencia will play every game once he's fit again. But all we have is history, and history says he's 3rd choice.

Valencia is a different player this year. Much improved. You cant read too much into past stats, form is, and always will be, the overriding factor.

[Blatter]

Originally Posted by carlcon

Valencia is almost always brilliant when he gets the chance. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I love the guy, and would play him every single game. But Young is ahead of him in Fergie's books. Ferguson bought Young for a reason, and Nani is United's 3rd biggest player after Rooney and Vidic.

Anything can happen, and sure, maybe Valencia will play every game once he's fit again. But all we have is history, and history says he's 3rd choice.

He was injured at the start of the season, and then when he got his chance he was either utilised at RB or he was in terrible form on the wing. He's been better than Young this season by a country mile and I'm sure Fergie sees that too.

It would take some serious form from Young and/or for Valencia's form to dip again when he returns for Valencia not to be a first choice winger for the rest of the season.

[El Horseboxo]

I don't know who is or who isn't 2nd or 3rd choice but i'd play Valencia over Young. Don't rate Young too much. Good thing about getting Nani in to replace Valencia is how easy it is to go back to Valencia if he does retain his place and is playing well. You also end up with a bit of cash to invest elsewhere.

[shadowcomplex]

Originally Posted by carlcon

What's that based on? Instead of just saying "you're wrong", I'll prove it. I've looked through a bunch of PL games between August-December when all 3 were fit to play, and only found 4.

All 4 had both Nani and Young ahead of Valencia.

3-1 against Chelsea
1-6 against City
1-1 against Liverpool (Nani and Valenica started on the bench, then Nani came on for Young. Valencia stayed benched).
1-1 against Newcastle

I came across a lot more than 4 games where Nani & Young played together too. I just skipped over the ones that Valenica wasn't named on the bench, in case he was injured (although I suspect it wasn't always due to injury)

Ever since Young was bought in the summer, Valencia has been 3rd choice winger. The games are there to be seen.

*edit* further research outside of the PL shows that Valencia was fit fora lot of those games when he wasn't on the bench, but was just played in the League Cup/Champions League instead, where Fergie played weakened teams. You don't play your #1 right winger in the league cup, then not even bench him in the big games.

Who started the champions league final last may?

You have to take into account Valencia played in the copa america last season which resulted in an extended rest period so thats why he started with Nani and Young, it was hard for valencia to get back into the team after that because United had there best start in years and were playing unreal football so much so that fergie couldnt change that,plus if im not mistaken valencia had one or two niggling injuries at the start of the season aswell, remember last season when valencia came back from injury he went straight back into the team for uniteds run in and stayed there