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28-02-2012, 14:38   #61
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He printed his leaflets on regular printers rather than using the big industrial photocopier that everyone else uses. Lazy and stupid.

He didn't break any rules however and doesn't do it anymore.
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28-02-2012, 14:46   #62
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He printed his leaflets on regular printers rather than using the big industrial photocopier that everyone else uses. Lazy and stupid.

He didn't break any rules however and doesn't do it anymore.
Just how many leaflets did he need to print in 2007 and 2008?

Is there corresponding paper costs to go with these leaflets?
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28-02-2012, 15:12   #63
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An expense from 5 years ago brought to light the same week polls show SF as gaining ground on FF.

I'm not suggesting anything of course but if this expense had been accrued in the current climate then Mr O'Snoddy should be removed from office.

2007/08 was a different time in economic terms however.
I mentioned that earlier, but yes, the timing is very interesting, as are the sources of the initial information that the journalist had.
Also the fact that Micheal Martin is calling for a full investigation smacks of the double standards within FF.
That doesnt make what AOS did right btw.
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28-02-2012, 15:14   #64
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He printed his leaflets on regular printers rather than using the big industrial photocopier that everyone else uses. Lazy and stupid.

He didn't break any rules however and doesn't do it anymore.
That doesn't make what he did morally and ethically right however. Especially when you consider the climate we are now in (and indeed were in at the time)

It is very difficult now for SF to take the high moral ground against excessive use of funds for expenses, borrowing from the IMF etc when they have a person in their ranks.
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28-02-2012, 15:15   #65
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Here's the Morning Ireland audio, for anyone who missed it.

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I mentioned that earlier, but yes, the timing is very interesting, as are the sources of the initial information that the journalist had.
Also the fact that Micheal Martin is calling for a full investigation smacks of the double standards within FF.
That doesnt make what AOS did right btw.
Is it not a case of those who throw stones should make damn sure they aren't in a glasshouse?

Perhaps the timing is 'suspect' - but then the timing of McGuinness' remarks about Gallagher were equally suspect. That's politics - use information to maximum advantage.
If O Snodaigh hadn't been slipping ink cartridge into his pocket every time he was in Leinster House there wouldn't be a story in the same way as if Sean Gallagher hadn't tried to claim he had severed all ties with FF, and he had never been more then a lowly grassroots member in the first place, his fund raising activities on behalf of FF would also have been a non-story.

The simple fact is SF have raged about everything, including the abuse of expenses, allowances and perks - and indeed the whole system is absurd - but SF TDs appear to be just as willing to 'work the system' they so enjoy ranting about. This has the effect of making their public statements so at odds with their actions that they just look like all the rest of our 'working the system' public representatives rather then the genuine alternative they like to present themselves as being.
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Thanks for the link, altho it's very difficult to listen to, either there is a terrible echo on his line or he is stuttering at a frightening rate.
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I think if he is not a thief then this is a sign of the future if SF ever got into power.

SF have nothing but competent for the middle class, they will waste all our money and squeeze us with taxes until we can't give any more.
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I don't like his toner, sure he said things have changed now and he's turning over a new leaf but its taken him 3.2 million to be exact. Just goes to sure the laser faire attitude of our politicians
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Christ,


People saying he should have used recycled cartridges etc.


Why not just ****ing email his rubbish propaganda out?
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Dunno what more pathetic, O'Snodaigh or Martin's desperate attempt to keep himself relevant: http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/ff-le...nk-541529.html
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Is it not a case of those who throw stones should make damn sure they aren't in a glasshouse?

Perhaps the timing is 'suspect' - but then the timing of McGuinness' remarks about Gallagher were equally suspect. That's politics - use information to maximum advantage.
If O Snodaigh hadn't been slipping ink cartridge into his pocket every time he was in Leinster House there wouldn't be a story in the same way as if Sean Gallagher hadn't tried to claim he had severed all ties with FF, and he had never been more then a lowly grassroots member in the first place, his fund raising activities on behalf of FF would also have been a non-story.

The simple fact is SF have raged about everything, including the abuse of expenses, allowances and perks - and indeed the whole system is absurd - but SF TDs appear to be just as willing to 'work the system' they so enjoy ranting about. This has the effect of making their public statements so at odds with their actions that they just look like all the rest of our 'working the system' public representatives rather then the genuine alternative they like to present themselves as being.
I dont disagree with anything of that.
Power corrupts etc.......
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Dunno what more pathetic, O'Snodaigh or Martin's desperate attempt to keep himself relevant: http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/ff-le...nk-541529.html

The Fianna Fáil leader Micháel Martin called for an inquiry into the matter.


As said in comment number 3

Until Michael martin comes clean on bertie & the rest of his FF friends, Maybe he should stay quite.
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Christ, its only going to get worse now with the announcement of a referendum. His printer will be on overdrive.
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Have the Shinners never heard of email? Saves an awful lot of paper and erm . . . ink . . .
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