[raymon]

Originally Posted by john reilly

what difference does any of this make, so people who never have and never will vote sinn fein. can all agree they never will. so sinn fein lose nothing. wanting sinn fein to do badly and them doing so are two different things. I can see the next elections being a painful time for you

I am not talking about me .... I am not going to vote SF . I am talking about Sinn Fein prospective voters.

The mask is slipping

The loudest campaigner and crusader against TDs expenses , Pearse Doherty claimed 51,808 euros expenses . Only three tds had higher expenses out of 167 . In 2009 he named and shamed the top claimants. Only 2 years later he is nearly the highest claimant.

His running mate Jonathan o Brien was just a few euros behind him at 51,179 euros and Mac Lochlan at 51,174 and Mcclennan at 50,540.

Even Colreavy claimed 50,225 euros.

Hypocrites

[john reilly]

Originally Posted by raymon

I am not talking about me .... I am not going to vote SF . I am talking about Sinn Fein prospective voters.

The mask is slipping

The loudest campaigner and crusader against TDs expenses , Pearse Doherty claimed 51,808 euros expenses . Only three tds had higher expenses out of 167 . In 2009 he named and shamed the top claimants. Only 2 years later he is nearly the highest claimant.

His running mate Jonathan o Brien was just a few euros behind him at 51,179 euros and Mac Lochlan at 51,174 and Mcclennan at 50,540.

Even Colreavy claimed 50,225 euros.

Hypocrites

but you cant speak for prospective voters as you never were. as for pearse doherty he does live in donegal so presumably would have considerable traveling expenses

[raymon]

Originally Posted by john reilly

but you cant speak for prospective voters as you never were. as for pearse doherty he does live in donegal so presumably would have considerable traveling expenses

"I have stated many times that it is my view that TD’s, Senators, Junior Ministers and Ministers are over paid and that their expenses are inflated. Both the Salary and the expenses should be cut substantially."
Pearse Doherty 2009

"Give me the maximum amount of 51,808 euro"
Pearse Doherty 2011

[Dr Galen]

This isn't a thread that should have SF or Pearse Doherty as it's central theme.

Back OT everyone

Cheers

DrG

[raymon]

Back on track , just to summarize

FF slipping in the polls
Michael Martin sharply dropping on the polls
Eamonn o Cuiv just resigned his post , but not completely from FF yet
Trouble brewing as old stock try to make a return , (possibly Coughlan, the Cope, O Donohue)

Looks like the beginning of the end

Happy days

[Kinski]

New Red C poll in the SBP tomorrow if anyone's interested. State of the parties: FG 30 (nc); SF 18 (+1); FF 17 (-1); Lab 16 (+2); Inds 19 (-2). Source: SBP feed on Twitter.

[raymon]

Down and down and down they go .

It is only fair that FF wither and die .

[Liam Byrne]

Originally Posted by raymon

Down and down and down they go .

It is only fair that FF wither and die .

Now if only we could get the others to realise that "not as bad as FF" isn't good enough we might be getting places.

Mind you, I really think it requires a brand-new party to achieve this.

[Chucky the tree]

Originally Posted by raymon

Back on track , just to summarize

FF slipping in the polls
Michael Martin sharply dropping on the polls
Eamonn o Cuiv just resigned his post , but not completely from FF yet
Trouble brewing as old stock try to make a return , (possibly Coughlan, the Cope, O Donohue)

Looks like the beginning of the end

Happy days

17% is really the beginning of the end? Do you think Labour and Sinn Fein are are at the end as well?

[john reilly]

Originally Posted by Chucky the tree

17% is really the beginning of the end? Do you think Labour and Sinn Fein are are at the end as well?

he regularily gets confused between reality and wishfull thinking

[raymon]

Originally Posted by Chucky the tree

17% is really the beginning of the end? Do you think Labour and Sinn Fein are are at the end as well?

Yes , FF are on the way out. No loss to our country.

SF are rising unfortunately .

Labour are not doing well now due to junior partner syndrome.

[Liam Byrne]

Originally Posted by raymon

Yes , FF are on the way out. No loss to our country.

SF are rising unfortunately .

Labour are not doing well now due to junior partner syndrome.

I wouldn't go excusing Labour their offences against the state that easily.....just as the Greens are liable for their decision to stay in government while FF ruined the country, so too Labour are responsible for their decisions to support a government that is betraying those who voted for it.

[raymon]

Originally Posted by Liam Byrne

I wouldn't go excusing Labour their offences against the state that easily.....just as the Greens are liable for their decision to stay in government while FF ruined the country, so too Labour are responsible for their decisions to support a government that is betraying those who voted for it.

Dont worry, im not defending labour at all.

[Liam Byrne]

Originally Posted by raymon

Dont worry, im not defending labour at all.

Well then why dismiss their fall in support as "junior partner syndrome" ? The reason I won't be voting for either them or FG again is because they have betrayed my vote.

No "junior partner syndrome" involved whatsoever.

[GombeanMan]

I hope FF dies.