[raymon]

Originally Posted by Sierra Oscar

All polls have had FF consistently on 16 - 18%, so nothing new in that regards.

FF will not start to rise until after the organisation has been reformed, and a lot is riding on next weekends Ard Fheis.

Also, if you think FF were bad wait until you see SF in government! Although on the other hand, if SF were to enter government tomorrow the party would be obliterated at a subsequent election.

Not true

Their last S&A poll was 20% in Dec for the times

Comparing apples with apples this represents 4% drop for FF

[Sierra Oscar]

Originally Posted by raymon

Not true

Their last S&A poll was 20% in Dec for the times

Comparing apples with apples this represents 4% drop for FF

And I am comparing them to regular polls, such as the RedC, which has had FF on 16%.

There is nothing new in this - we all knew FF was not on 20%. It certainly is not a surprise to FF members anyways, who are not really even expecting the party to be all that much north of 20% a year from now.

[smcgiff]

SF would say anything if they thought it would be received well by the public at large - getting power is what matters.

They would be a disaster for the country. That Mary Lou one makes my skin crawl. They will always put their indoctrinated ideology above all else, but we wouldn't be the first country to let such a party rule them, especially in difficult times.

[Border-Rat]

Originally Posted by smcgiff

SF would say anything if they thought it would be received well by the public at large - getting power is what matters.

They would be a disaster for the country. That Mary Lou one makes my skin crawl. They will always put their indoctrinated ideology above all else, but we wouldn't be the first country to let such a party rule them, especially in difficult times.

Lol. Yes, because this isn't the mantra of FF or FG. Only Sinn Fein.

[Good loser]

FF will have to let another few years ellapse before they can regain their voters.

Their simple minded oppositional politics at the moment (M Martin ?) is doing them no favours.

I'd say if they had supported nearly every Govt initiative for the first three years and then drifted away to opposition - more in sorrow than anger - they would maximise their support at next election.

[smcgiff]

Originally Posted by Border-Rat

Lol. Yes, because this isn't the mantra of FF or FG. Only Sinn Fein.

I agree - it's just that sf are so good at it.

[Border-Rat]

Originally Posted by smcgiff

I agree - it's just that sf are so good at it.

If they're so good at it, they'd be in power. FG are using, according to you, the same dogma. Care to explain that fallacy or are you just vehemently anyone-but-SF?

[dvpower]

Originally Posted by namelessguy

SF are looking like the only viable alternative. It could happen.

SF and who?

[smcgiff]

Originally Posted by Border-Rat

or are you just vehemently anyone-but-SF?

In case there is ANY doubt I'm most certainly anyone but Sf.

And as for not being in government, to be fair to sf it's going to take time to fully transform from the mouthpiece of a murderous terrorist organisation.

Also, no matter how slick they are I'm hoping there's enough sanity in the Irish yet.

[Border-Rat]

Originally Posted by smcgiff

In case there is ANY doubt I'm most certainly anyone but Sf.

And as for not being in government, to be fair to sf it's going to take time to fully transform from the mouthpiece of a murderous terrorist organisation.

Also, no matter how slick they are I'm hoping there's enough sanity in the Irish yet.

This rant doesn't answer the question. You insinuate that Sinn Fein and Fine Gael flip-flop and lie to gain power. But you say that Sinn Fein are better at it, yet they're not in power. So evidently, by your own logic, FG are more guilty of this.

Personally, I love this news. It turns the face of partitionists beet-red with anger. Partitionists, little Englanders etc.

[RandomName2]

Originally Posted by Border-Rat

Partitionists, little Englanders etc.

Enough of that, thanks.

[smcgiff]

Br,

I don't follow your logic, and I'm certainly not going to waste any time trying to.

You don't have look to the roi for partitisionists - what with a large majority (incl. Catholics) of the population of NI being so inclined.

I'm very much in favour of a UI, but only with the majority support of those within the six counties. And thats less likely with a sf in my opinion.

[washman3]

Originally Posted by smcgiff

SF would say anything if they thought it would be received well by the public at large - getting power is what matters.

They would be a disaster for the country. That Mary Lou one makes my skin crawl. They will always put their indoctrinated ideology above all else, but we wouldn't be the first country to let such a party rule them, especially in difficult times.

The vast majority of us have already voted for sinn fein when we voted for the Good Friday Agreement. were we happy to impose SF on the people of N.I. but declare them unworthy to even contest an election in this state? the hypocrisy in baffling. and dont fool ourselves into thinking that N.I. was a "different situation" and there was no alternative.
S.F. continue to make progress because of the popularity of the likes of Pearse Doherty.
Next weeks RedC will be very interesting indeed.
the sooner FF are driven into oblivion the better.

[smcgiff]

Originally Posted by washman3

The vast majority of us have already voted for sinn fein when we voted for the Good Friday Agreement.

What a load of Boll ix.

However, we do agree on your last statement.

[raymon]

And the FF whinging continues .

This time they are complaining that Rte has a bias against them.

In their arrogance the don't realise that 84% of the country has a bias against them, except for 16% and a few FF shills in the Irish Independent and one in the Irish Times.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...y-3031981.html

Come on Fianna Fail , when will your whinging stop