[44leto]

Originally Posted by Irish Steve

The National Childrens' Hospital has hit the bufferes with An Bord Pleanala.

They don't like it for all sorts of reasons.

Here's a thought.

Move the Mater to a new site at Thornton Hall, and build the Childrens's hospital there as well.

That frees up lots of space near Mountjoy. Expand Mountjoy onto the old Mater site. Move over. Demolish the old Mountjoy, and expand it and merge the 2 together.

Mater and Childrens hospital have a massive site with easy access, lots of parking space, and space to expand as new facilities are needed.

Mountjoy is sorted, expanded, and modernised

Every one happy.

What's the problem with that?

Heres another, upgrade Crumlin and don't build another. We really don't have the money, the building of this hospital was proposed during the boom. Those days are gone and for now we are bust.

[blindjustice]

Originally Posted by RonMexico

They had a computer generated image of what it would have looked like on the news there and to be fair it looked absolutely ridiculous in that location.

who gives a damn we need the hospital. Maybe the location looks ridiculous as it is. Dublin is a stunted dull grey town.

[opinion guy]

Originally Posted by Biggins

It probably doesn't suit for some reason, the mates of certain people in the Dail as they try and see to it that their corporate friends in businesses get the tenders for contracts!

Seriously though - maybe they'd be better off stripping down in numbers, the white collar department chiefs and quangos involved with the HSE and work on fixing the present hospitals than build more, only to eventually have them money starved and resource short too!

Just a notion!

I dunno Biggins - at least we know now the planning people are beyond the reach of political influence!

Originally Posted by bleg

For what it's worth, from a clinical point of view (the most important IMO) it has been assessed that a co-located hospital at the Mater site would be the best option.

Assessed by who though ? There are plenty of docs and consutlants against it.

Originally Posted by NiallSparky

Tallaght or Beaumont would be far better locations in my opinion.

Originally Posted by DB21

Absolutely not. Used to commute to that area. Try getting to Beaumont quickly at 8:30ish and get back to me.

More to the point is Beaumont is an unbelievable hole in and of itself. It needs to be knocked and rebuilt - it is built to outdated plans, there's barely any space. A new Beaumont should be built on site in phases knocking the old one a bit at a time.



I have a radical idea. You want an adult hospital to build a kiddie's hospital on. The Hermitage. Loads of space there and its greenfield. Lots of disciplines. Not great public transport wise but you could run a Luas Spur there easy enough

[January]

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...e-3038548.html

Originally Posted by The Irish Independent

HEALTH Minister Dr James Reilly is considering an alternative proposal for the site of the new children's hospital.

The alternative hospital, which may be funded by governments in the Middle and Far East, will be located on lands surrounding the existing site of the Coombe Maternity in Dublin.

I think this is also a bad idea, the Coombe is mental to get to in the mornings, there's queue's for the carpark there as it is for women to get to their appointments.

[opinion guy]

Originally Posted by January

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...e-3038548.html



I think this is also a bad idea, the Coombe is mental to get to in the mornings, there's queue's for the carpark there as it is for women to get to their appointments.

Um....why do governments in the middle and far east want to build us a children's hospital ?!?!?!?

[AudreyHepburn]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0514/new...-hospital.html

I don’t if anyone has read this or heard it yet but they are now proposing a site next to the Phoenix Park for the Children’s Hospital. I’m surprised this site wasn’t mentioned before.


I live about two minutes away from the proposed site and I think it would be ideal. At the moment there is an unfinished complex of apartments there, many of which are unoccupied and if I recall correctly the landlord is looking to sell. The rest of the site is a green field which was once a racecourse. The site is more than spacious enough and the location, so close to the park is in my opinion perfect. A lovely view and perfect amenity for families, staff and the children themselves to use if they are able.

The site is also across the road from a railway station and is on the Navan Road, a main thoroughfare with a bus stop directly beside the current entrance. There are also plenty of other routes there including through the park. Thus it is easily accessible in a number of directions and has good public transport.

So all in all a pretty good site in my opinion.

Thoughts? Opinions?

[Dr.Strange]

It sounds better than the current Mater site anyway.

The Mater is near town, the RoIunda and Temple Street I suppose but it would be hard to find a more conjested place in the city.

[biko]

AH-> Infrastructure

[opinion guy]

The site has been offered free of charge by Flynn & O'Flaherty,

Wow.
Whats the story there ?
Tax write off ?

[MYOB]

Originally Posted by opinion guy

Wow.
Whats the story there ?
Tax write off ?

Desperate hope that staff will buy the copious amount of apartments they can't sell.

[opinion guy]

Originally Posted by MYOB

Desperate hope that staff will buy the copious amount of apartments they can't sell.

Well what I'm wondering is - if the land/property has a certain book value - but they can't sell it now meaning that book value is meaningless - do they get a tax write off for donating that book value to charity or something ?

I mean maybe not. Maybe you can't even do that. Maybe its a completely altruistic deed. But I'm just wondering.