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jcf · 23-02-2012, 12:03

Still rumour .. but looks promising ..

http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/02/t...2728-2012-cr3/

I will stick with the 5D II for now, maybe get this in a year or 2 when the price drops ..

EyeBlinks · 23-02-2012, 12:10

Whats the improvement on the 5D11 that would justify the upgrade?

jcf · 23-02-2012, 12:25

The AF ...

EyeBlinks · 23-02-2012, 12:25

Whats better about it? It's the only thing in the 5D2 I'm not happy with.

**dirtyghettokid** · 23-02-2012, 12:26

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Originally Posted by jcf

The AF ...

AF would be good, but still couldn't justify paying that money just for that

jcf · 23-02-2012, 12:28

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Originally Posted by dirtyghettokid

AF would be good, but still couldn't justify paying that money just for that

Good point, if i could get a good price for the 5dII ... which i probably couldn't so .... hmmmmmm 5dii for a good while yet

EyeBlinks · 23-02-2012, 12:30

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Originally Posted by dirtyghettokid

AF would be good, but still couldn't justify paying that money just for that

Well if you're losing a heap of shots due to the autofucus (I am) it might be worth the upgrade. Though having said that it was a lot ot pay for a MK2 that focuses worse than a P&S

**dirtyghettokid** · 23-02-2012, 12:35

canon should give concessions to those who own a 5DII

jcf · 23-02-2012, 12:45

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Originally Posted by dirtyghettokid

canon should give concessions to those who own a 5DII

That wouldn't be a bad idea at all ??

I wonder will it slide ?

EyeBlinks · 23-02-2012, 12:56

Whats better about the AF though? anyone?

jcf · 23-02-2012, 13:02

well for starters 61 pt !! , id imagine it's a lot faster too ... they have to listen to the complaints of the slow AF on the mkii

magicbastarder · 23-02-2012, 13:52

what's wrong with the old AF that 61 points would fix?

i have god knows how many AF points in my camera. i only use one.

gloobag · 23-02-2012, 14:20

5DmkII only has one cross type AF point (the centre point) that can detect contrast on both the x and y axis. The other 8 are older less accurate tech. It's also very poor in low light situations and has no AF assist. Basically it's AF system was already old when the mkII was released.

Having multiple AF points is really only essential if you work at very wide apertures (as I usually do), as the focus/recompose technique causes your images to be consistantly out of focus due to the tiny slice of DOF you're working in.

The rumours of it having a similar system to the 1DX means that all of it's 61 points will be cross type and should be very accurate. Proabably on a par with a good Nikon body.

I'd actually be surprised if the mkIII/X has this though, as it's a pretty big selling point of the 1DX. It's more likely it'll have either something similar to what the 7D has now or what the 1DmkIV has.

I'm sure there'll be the usual improvements in ISO as well some video friendly functions.

Personally I already have the money set aside for two new bodies, just waiting to see if they're actually worth the investment.

ThOnda · 23-02-2012, 19:59

gloobag, you have money for two bodies, but you have only two hands and you usually use one camera with two hands. Could I keep the second body for you, safely?

KKV · 24-02-2012, 01:11

Not liking the pricing. You'd hope that the prices would help knock the previous models' pricing down a bit.

The 5D sells for about €500 or thereabouts these days (people try to get more but rarely succeed in my small bit of research). The MkII goes for about 1,300-2,000 (seconda hand - new) and if this comes in at 3,000+ then the previous models are just going to retain their current pricing.

I'm fairly certain Canon have decided to price their gear out of the amateur's hands to try and create a divide in the amateur VS pro debate. At the moment, you could set up as a pro with less than €5,000. I think there's a whiff of artificial price flooring coming in to try and drive a barrier between "pro" gear and "amateur/enthusiast" gear.

Maybe I should be posting in the conspiracy theories forum, though...

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EyeBlinks Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 480 Adverts \| Friends	Whats the improvement on the 5D11 that would justify the upgrade?

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jcf Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,135 Adverts \| Friends	The AF ...

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jcf Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,135 Adverts \| Friends	well for starters 61 pt !! , id imagine it's a lot faster too ... they have to listen to the complaints of the slow AF on the mkii

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magicbastarder Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,466 Adverts \| Friends	what's wrong with the old AF that 61 points would fix? i have god knows how many AF points in my camera. i only use one.

23-02-2012, 14:20	#13
gloobag Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dublin City Posts: 1,046 Adverts \| Friends	5DmkII only has one cross type AF point (the centre point) that can detect contrast on both the x and y axis. The other 8 are older less accurate tech. It's also very poor in low light situations and has no AF assist. Basically it's AF system was already old when the mkII was released. Having multiple AF points is really only essential if you work at very wide apertures (as I usually do), as the focus/recompose technique causes your images to be consistantly out of focus due to the tiny slice of DOF you're working in. The rumours of it having a similar system to the 1DX means that all of it's 61 points will be cross type and should be very accurate. Proabably on a par with a good Nikon body. I'd actually be surprised if the mkIII/X has this though, as it's a pretty big selling point of the 1DX. It's more likely it'll have either something similar to what the 7D has now or what the 1DmkIV has. I'm sure there'll be the usual improvements in ISO as well some video friendly functions. Personally I already have the money set aside for two new bodies, just waiting to see if they're actually worth the investment.

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ThOnda Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dublin surroundings Posts: 4,659 Adverts \| Friends	gloobag, you have money for two bodies, but you have only two hands and you usually use one camera with two hands. Could I keep the second body for you, safely?

24-02-2012, 01:11	#15
KKV Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Drogheda, Co. Louth Posts: 7,132 Adverts \| Friends	Not liking the pricing. You'd hope that the prices would help knock the previous models' pricing down a bit. The 5D sells for about €500 or thereabouts these days (people try to get more but rarely succeed in my small bit of research). The MkII goes for about 1,300-2,000 (seconda hand - new) and if this comes in at 3,000+ then the previous models are just going to retain their current pricing. I'm fairly certain Canon have decided to price their gear out of the amateur's hands to try and create a divide in the amateur VS pro debate. At the moment, you could set up as a pro with less than €5,000. I think there's a whiff of artificial price flooring coming in to try and drive a barrier between "pro" gear and "amateur/enthusiast" gear. Maybe I should be posting in the conspiracy theories forum, though...