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Dotcomdolly · 19-03-2012, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChampionChip

The results are always based initially on gun time as per IAAF Rule 165. I usually wait a short time before we produce the chip times as it gives us time to check them and id those who did not go to the start line, there were 6 of them today.

I have just sent the results to MSB with chip time attached so they will appear soon as.

Oh my bad, I was sure they were chip as mine was so close to my watch time. LOok fwd to seeing the real results.

LaHaine · 19-03-2012, 10:53

Confused I am, so the real chip times arent on the website yet?

gnu · 19-03-2012, 11:12

I'm confused too! What's a gun time?

And does anyone know how long it takes to get the real time (whatever that is!)?

Edit: Oh, and only 855 people are listed, I thought there were more than that in the race?

RayCun · 19-03-2012, 11:30

Gun time is how long it takes from the starting gun going off to you crossing the finish line.

Chip time is the time between you crossing the start line and you crossing the finish line.

Gun time is the official time. The race organisers are mainly concerned about finishing order, because that's what is used for prizes - who was first man, first woman, first M40, where did the members of a team finish etc. They can stand at the finish line and see all this for themselves, without relying on chips (that might not work). If you start at the back of the race, run faster than all the other runners, but cross the finish line behind the winner - well, that's your own fault. your chip time won't get you a prize.

But for most of us, who aren't going to win the race, and aren't starting at the very front, chip time is more important.

gnu · 19-03-2012, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayCun

Gun time is how long it takes from the starting gun going off to you crossing the finish line.

Chip time is the time between you crossing the start line and you crossing the finish line.

Gun time is the official time. The race organisers are mainly concerned about finishing order, because that's what is used for prizes - who was first man, first woman, first M40, where did the members of a team finish etc. They can stand at the finish line and see all this for themselves, without relying on chips (that might not work). If you start at the back of the race, run faster than all the other runners, but cross the finish line behind the winner - well, that's your own fault. your chip time won't get you a prize.

But for most of us, who aren't going to win the race, and aren't starting at the very front, chip time is more important.

Thanks! I don't think I'll ever need to worry about my gun time but nice to know what it means anyway.

Bungy Girl · 19-03-2012, 12:14

Edit: Oh, and only 855 people are listed, I thought there were more than that in the race?[/QUOTE]

Possible reason for this is because those who signed up for the family deal just got one chip between them so you could have had 4 people running but just one time showing.

Truman Burbank · 19-03-2012, 13:18

Great organisation again by MSBAC, was a spectator with family member running

Chip times not yet up

There were significantly less runners this year, almost certainly due to the fact that today is a Bank Holiday (was given this reason by an MSBAC Marshall also)

http://www.msbac.ie/images/Results/Provisional2011.pdf (for race numbers)

Anyone know if the the elderly lady who was knocked flat at the start of the run, directly outside The Mansion House, was OK? We never saw her finish and waited til the end (hopefully we just missed her). Another runner cut her off completely by running across her when she they saw their family with cameras

ChampionChip · 19-03-2012, 17:50

Just clarify the first set of results are always gun time ie from gun shot until you cross the finish line. Chip times are not official and cannot be regarded as such as per IAAF Rule 165.

Re entrants there were just short of 1000 chipped entrants and the others were families, walkers and kids who were not chipped or timed.

I've just posted the results with chip times on my site www.championchipireland.com

gnu · 19-03-2012, 18:33

Yippee!!!! Even better time than I could have hoped for! Interesting to see how many people with slower chip times placed ahead of me ... well I did start at the back on purpose, didn't want to hold anyone up but then ended up a bit stuck myself.

Very sorry to hear about that woman who got knocked over and hope she's ok and was able to race.

Am now compulsively trying to find my next race, this racing stuff is like heroin! :-)

Dotcomdolly · 19-03-2012, 18:58

Loving your work championchip

PB for me afterall, I thought my watch was bag on but hurrah it wasn't

20 secs off rathfarnham.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnu

Yippee!!!! Even better time than I could have hoped for! Interesting to see how many people with slower chip times placed ahead of me ... well I did start at the back on purpose, didn't want to hold anyone up but then ended up a bit stuck myself.

Very sorry to hear about that woman who got knocked over and hope she's ok and was able to race.

Am now compulsively trying to find my next race, this racing stuff is like heroin! :-)

Cheaper & better for the health though gnu! well done on exceeding your own expectations!

gnu · 19-03-2012, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dotcomdolly

Loving your work championchip

PB for me afterall, I thought my watch was bag on but hurrah it wasn't

20 secs off rathfarnham.

Cheaper & better for the health though gnu! well done on exceeding your own expectations!

Thanks a mill, I am thrilled even though I'd say I'm half the speed of you guys! And congratulations on your PB!!!

RayCun · 19-03-2012, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnu

Am now compulsively trying to find my next race, this racing stuff is like heroin! :-)

The Lottery race series is very good value, and a nice progression of distances for a beginner - 5 mile, 10k, 10 mile, half marathon. 65 euro for all four, and a technical t-shirt with each one.

ChampionChip · 19-03-2012, 20:39

I am hoping to get the nod for the Series this year after the diffs experienced with the Italians last few times. Its down to me and one other GB based company.

gnu · 19-03-2012, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayCun

The Lottery race series is very good value, and a nice progression of distances for a beginner - 5 mile, 10k, 10 mile, half marathon. 65 euro for all four, and a technical t-shirt with each one.

Thanks Ray, that's a really good deal. I'm not sure I'll be able for the 2 longer ones but definitely interested in the first 2. Hope I can find something sooner though ... don't want to get withdrawal symptoms!

Am thinking of the Great Ireland Run in April but not sure I'll be ready for 10k in time as my longest run so far is just over 7km.

Timmaay · 19-03-2012, 22:15

I would rate most club races higher then the likes of the national lotto race series, most big commercial races as such tend to be forced to compromise in the course etc due to their size, and then there's the hassle of parking/overcrowding etc. There are plenty of 5k club races coming up over the next few months, in the Kidare/Wicklow/Meath area, my own club holds a fit4life series, and the next two races are both 5ks http://www.slicualann.com/fit4life-league.html, only 5quid entry also! (don't expect a goodiebag/tshirt tho ha!)

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19-03-2012, 11:12	#78
gnu Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 342 Adverts \| Friends	I'm confused too! What's a gun time? And does anyone know how long it takes to get the real time (whatever that is!)? Edit: Oh, and only 855 people are listed, I thought there were more than that in the race? Last edited by gnu; 19-03-2012 at 11:14.

19-03-2012, 17:50	#83
ChampionChip Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 155 Adverts \| Friends	Chip times etc Just clarify the first set of results are always gun time ie from gun shot until you cross the finish line. Chip times are not official and cannot be regarded as such as per IAAF Rule 165. Re entrants there were just short of 1000 chipped entrants and the others were families, walkers and kids who were not chipped or timed. I've just posted the results with chip times on my site www.championchipireland.com

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19-03-2012, 10:53	#77
LaHaine Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dublin Posts: 675 Adverts \| Friends	Confused I am, so the real chip times arent on the website yet?

19-03-2012, 11:30	#79
RayCun Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,174 Adverts \| Friends	Gun time is how long it takes from the starting gun going off to you crossing the finish line. Chip time is the time between you crossing the start line and you crossing the finish line. Gun time is the official time. The race organisers are mainly concerned about finishing order, because that's what is used for prizes - who was first man, first woman, first M40, where did the members of a team finish etc. They can stand at the finish line and see all this for themselves, without relying on chips (that might not work). If you start at the back of the race, run faster than all the other runners, but cross the finish line behind the winner - well, that's your own fault. your chip time won't get you a prize. But for most of us, who aren't going to win the race, and aren't starting at the very front, chip time is more important.

19-03-2012, 12:14	#81
Bungy Girl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 96 Adverts \| Friends	Edit: Oh, and only 855 people are listed, I thought there were more than that in the race?[/QUOTE] Possible reason for this is because those who signed up for the family deal just got one chip between them so you could have had 4 people running but just one time showing.

19-03-2012, 13:18	#82
Truman Burbank Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 465 Adverts \| Friends	Great organisation again by MSBAC, was a spectator with family member running Chip times not yet up There were significantly less runners this year, almost certainly due to the fact that today is a Bank Holiday (was given this reason by an MSBAC Marshall also) http://www.msbac.ie/images/Results/Provisional2011.pdf (for race numbers) Anyone know if the the elderly lady who was knocked flat at the start of the run, directly outside The Mansion House, was OK? We never saw her finish and waited til the end (hopefully we just missed her). Another runner cut her off completely by running across her when she they saw their family with cameras

19-03-2012, 18:33	#84
gnu Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 342 Adverts \| Friends	Yippee!!!! Even better time than I could have hoped for! Interesting to see how many people with slower chip times placed ahead of me ... well I did start at the back on purpose, didn't want to hold anyone up but then ended up a bit stuck myself. Very sorry to hear about that woman who got knocked over and hope she's ok and was able to race. Am now compulsively trying to find my next race, this racing stuff is like heroin! :-)

19-03-2012, 20:39	#88
ChampionChip Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 155 Adverts \| Friends	I am hoping to get the nod for the Series this year after the diffs experienced with the Italians last few times. Its down to me and one other GB based company.

19-03-2012, 22:15	#90
Timmaay Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wicklow Posts: 1,810 Adverts \| Friends	I would rate most club races higher then the likes of the national lotto race series, most big commercial races as such tend to be forced to compromise in the course etc due to their size, and then there's the hassle of parking/overcrowding etc. There are plenty of 5k club races coming up over the next few months, in the Kidare/Wicklow/Meath area, my own club holds a fit4life series, and the next two races are both 5ks http://www.slicualann.com/fit4life-league.html, only 5quid entry also! (don't expect a goodiebag/tshirt tho ha!)