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19-02-2012, 13:58   #1
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What do y'all think of diesel cars??

Is there a hidden disadvantage? Am I missing something??

They apparently get "more miles to the gallon" .. and afaik, a litre of petrol is pretty much the same as a litre of diesel .... cheaper road tax for GOD only knows why ...

Same question with electric cars .. IMO cars are for smelly hippies cant go very fast afaik ..( <= 100 kph) not a great range, shíte acceleration, and if you run out in the middle of the arse end of Ireland, you are féckéd if there is only petrol stations, whereas most rural areas atleast have a petrol station .... and if all comes to all I'm sure some kind samaritan would kindly let you syfon some petrol from their tank ..but from what I gather e-cars can only be charged at designated points ..and not even from mains

so in conclusion ::

what do y'all think of e cars?
what do y'all think of diesel cars?
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19-02-2012, 14:52   #2
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Is there a hidden disadvantage? Am I missing something??

They apparently get "more miles to the gallon" .. and afaik, a litre of petrol is pretty much the same as a litre of diesel .... cheaper road tax for GOD only knows why ...

Same question with electric cars .. IMO cars are for smelly hippies cant go very fast afaik ..( <= 100 kph) not a great range, shíte acceleration, and if you run out in the middle of the arse end of Ireland, you are féckéd if there is only petrol stations, whereas most rural areas atleast have a petrol station .... and if all comes to all I'm sure some kind samaritan would kindly let you syfon some petrol from their tank ..but from what I gather e-cars can only be charged at designated points ..and not even from mains

so in conclusion ::

what do y'all think of e cars?
what do y'all think of diesel cars?

What is the point of this post? All these issues discussed to death already.
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what do y'all think of diesel cars?
Stop gap.

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The future.
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Same question with electric cars .. IMO cars are for smelly hippies cant go very fast afaik ..( <= 100 kph) not a great range, shíte acceleration
I guess you haven't heard of Tesla Motors.
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There is no such thing as a "diesel car", they're called Tractors.

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Diesel cars take longer to get up to operating temperature, and are better for longer journeys.

They're more expensive to buy.

Torque is nice, but it can take a while for the turbo to spin up. And the fun ends quickly since there's so few RPM's to play with

Electric's.

Grand until some scrote pulls the charging cable while you're at work.
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Diesel = Fuel of the Devil!

Are you thinking of changing your car OP? What sort of driving (local / motorway) do you do and how many miles / km per year?

A petrol engine is generally more simple than modern diesels. I.e., a diesel has more components like turbo, DMF, DPF, etc and more parts = more to go wrong. Buying a 1.5 diesel to bring the kids to school is a waste of time when you weigh up fuel savings vs potential maintenance costs. Buying a 2L diesel vs a 2L petrol when doing 20k km/yr on longer drives is a no-brainer.
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Grand until some scrote pulls the charging cable while you're at work.
The cables are lockable, but anybody who watched top gear the other day might try to do it anyway "for a laff" and end up doing some damage.

http://www.thechargingpoint.com/news...tric-cars.html
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The cables are lockable, but anybody who watched top gear the other day might try to do it anyway "for a laff" and end up doing some damage.

http://www.thechargingpoint.com/news...tric-cars.html
They'd want to be lockable.

There's also the liability issue if they tresspass on my property, unhook the car by force and somehow manage to electrocute themselves with it.

I'm trying to think of the lowest common denominator.

You know what judges are like in this country.
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They'd want to be lockable.

There's also the liability issue if they tresspass on my property, unhook the car by force and somehow manage to electrocute themselves with it.

I'm trying to think of the lowest common denominator.

You know what judges are like in this country.
You'd have to make sure there's enough voltage to dispatch them, it's only surviving trespassers that will sue you.
In the German army we where told to either let trespassers run away, or to make sure they cannot lodge a complaint or sue afterwards. But also, not to be so obvious as to pump the entire clip into them on rapid fire from 2 meters away!
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You'd have to make sure there's enough voltage to dispatch them, it's only surviving trespassers that will sue you.
In the German army we where told to either let trespassers run away, or to make sure they cannot lodge a complaint or sue afterwards. But also, not to be so obvious as to pump the entire clip into them on rapid fire from 2 meters away!
Was this before or after the war?
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if electric cars ever become popular, surely they will be taxed to death like everything else
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if electric cars ever become popular, surely they will be taxed to death like everything else
Only 48 EV's were registered here last year.
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Diesel cars take longer to get up to operating temperature, and are better for longer journeys.

They're more expensive to buy.

Torque is nice, but it can take a while for the turbo to spin up. And the fun ends quickly since there's so few RPM's to play with
Not entirely so.

Operating temp in my car is 90 deg. to which it is advised to keep it under 2.5k rpm

@ 2.5k rpm I am doing over the motorway speed limit so no problem here.

As for turbo spooling up?? Not a problem there..Spools up just fine.. and can rev out to 5k..at which my car would be doing over 150mph..
Not bad for a duzel
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Not entirely so.

Operating temp in my car is 90 deg. to which it is advised to keep it under 2.5k rpm

@ 2.5k rpm I am doing over the motorway speed limit so no problem here.

As for turbo spooling up?? Not a problem there..Spools up just fine.. and can rev out to 5k..at which my car would be doing over 150mph..
Not bad for a duzel
WHAT TYPE OF CAR IS THAT??
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