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uncle_sam_ie · 16-02-2012, 15:23

The Nvida 570 GTX is a great card and priced about the same as the 6970. It's also a good card to overclock.

ShadowHearth · 16-02-2012, 16:02

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Originally Posted by uncle_sam_ie

The Nvida 570 GTX is a great card and priced about the same as the 6970. It's also a good card to overclock.

I got one and I am sort of kicking myself for not taking 6970 instead. 570 is still nice card, but I wanted to go sli or cf on a future. With gtx 570 is very crap. I will be pushing it with 750w psu even at stock speed, where's 6870 CF will draw waaaaaay less power and better scale at CF.

Still good card for single gpu setup, not south for sli. Plus 6970 has an advantage of eyefinity.

Monotype · 16-02-2012, 18:07

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Originally Posted by ShadowHearth

I got one and I am sort of kicking myself for not taking 6970 instead. 570 is still nice card, but I wanted to go sli or cf on a future. With gtx 570 is very crap. I will be pushing it with 750w psu even at stock speed, where's 6870 CF will draw waaaaaay less power and better scale at CF.

Still good card for single gpu setup, not south for sli. Plus 6970 has an advantage of eyefinity.

Is that a typo? Crossfire 6870s would be less but the power consumption of the 6970 is pretty much level with the 570.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A..._Cu_II/21.html
All the results are within a few watts of each other, with the 570 having a lower maximum. It also uses less power in HD video tests.

Here's some other sites which demonstrate similar results. A little higher in the second one but the xbitlabs one demonstrates HD video again.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/gra...c_5.html#sect0
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-19.html

ShadowHearth · 16-02-2012, 18:14

Sorry, it is typo. I ment 6970 CF

*Karsini* · 16-02-2012, 18:15

I've always used Nvidia cards myself and was never happy with the image quality on ATI/AMD cards, any time I had one I didn't like it.

Nonetheless, Nvidia cards have taken a serious slide in reliability. There's the well known GeForce 8 failures, but even recently I bought a GT440 for a PC and started getting "Driver stopped responding and recovered" errors. Replaced the card and it's now fine. My cousin also got a GTX460 for a new build - same issue. Even Firefox's GPU acceleration was causing timeout errors.

ShadowHearth · 16-02-2012, 18:19

Interesting chart m8. The one I checked 6970 CF had way better power consumption then gtx 570 sli.

Maybe multi gpu setups would differ alot from single gpu power consumption?

Monotype · 16-02-2012, 19:03

It could happen that certain tasks will be better optimised in SLI or crossfire and have lower power consumption. Average power draws could change too and for one or the other and be related to drivers.
The maximum is still going to stay the same (x2) and this is what you should always consider when picking a PSU to suit.

It's hard to find a review directly comparing SLI 570 directly to crossfire 6970. It would be foolish to compare two reviews too as they could be measuring them at different points, with different applications and with different motherboards/CPUs/configurations.

I find that techpowerup are one of the most reliable for actual graphics card consumption as they test the consumption of the card itself and not the whole system at the wall (which adds in PSU inefficiencies and everything).

**deconduo** · 16-02-2012, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Monotype

It could happen that certain tasks will be better optimised in SLI or crossfire and have lower power consumption. Average power draws could change too and for one or the other and be related to drivers.
The maximum is still going to stay the same (x2) and this is what you should always consider when picking a PSU to suit.

It's hard to find a review directly comparing SLI 570 directly to crossfire 6970. It would be foolish to compare two reviews too as they could be measuring them at different points, with different applications and with different motherboards/CPUs/configurations.

I find that techpowerup are one of the most reliable for actual graphics card consumption as they test the consumption of the card itself and not the whole system at the wall (which adds in PSU inefficiencies and everything).

Its strange, some reviews seem to put them close together, yet others show the 570 having a much higher consumption:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4239/36072.png
http://cdn5.tweaktown.com/content/3/7/3741_42.png

I wonder why there's such a large variance between reviews.

ShadowHearth · 16-02-2012, 19:49

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Originally Posted by deconduo

Its strange, some reviews seem to put them close together, yet others show the 570 having a much higher consumption:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4239/36072.png
http://cdn5.tweaktown.com/content/3/7/3741_42.png

I wonder why there's such a large variance between reviews.

that it m8. there is a huge gap between 600W and 770W

Monotype · 16-02-2012, 20:33

Wow, that's a fairly big chuck of a gap.

I'm not sure I'd trust anandtech entirely with some of their charts. I previously tracked some of their figures back to reviews where they had taken them from and it seems that they don't use the same systems to test, and they measure at the wall. I suppose it's a lot to ask them to test them all on the exact same system as they probably don't have the cards in their hands all at the same time. The test equipment that techpowerup refers to is most likely expensive as well.

I wouldn't rule out bias in any of these sites either. We'll have to get our own testing equipment to be sure!

**deconduo** · 16-02-2012, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Monotype

I wouldn't rule out bias in any of these sites either. We'll have to get our own testing equipment to be sure!

Coming soon: Boards.ie tech reviews

Serephucus · 16-02-2012, 21:20

I actually really like that idea...

donfarrell · 16-02-2012, 21:26

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Originally Posted by deconduo

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Originally Posted by Monotype

I wouldn't rule out bias in any of these sites either. We'll have to get our own testing equipment to be sure!

Coming soon: Boards.ie tech reviews

I'd read the **** out of them

Tea_Bag · 16-02-2012, 21:43

NTMK has 2 6970s, and headshot has 2 gtx570s. I'd donate a PC as a test bench, and throw in my 6990 to show what real power consumption is all about

. this could actually work.

sure I've been looking into getting a power meter for a while now.

ShadowHearth · 16-02-2012, 21:59

Like I said lads. It's weird with how much power gtx 570 sli takes. Way less then 6970 in some reviews... I sow on YouTube fella having safe setup on 650w 2xgtx 570.

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16-02-2012, 15:23	#16
uncle_sam_ie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cork Posts: 2,177 Adverts \| Friends	The Nvida 570 GTX is a great card and priced about the same as the 6970. It's also a good card to overclock.

16-02-2012, 18:14	#19
ShadowHearth Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Co. cork Posts: 12,669 Adverts \| Friends	Sorry, it is typo. I ment 6970 CF

16-02-2012, 18:15	#20
Karsini Now in high definition Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 9,617 Adverts \| Friends	I've always used Nvidia cards myself and was never happy with the image quality on ATI/AMD cards, any time I had one I didn't like it. Nonetheless, Nvidia cards have taken a serious slide in reliability. There's the well known GeForce 8 failures, but even recently I bought a GT440 for a PC and started getting "Driver stopped responding and recovered" errors. Replaced the card and it's now fine. My cousin also got a GTX460 for a new build - same issue. Even Firefox's GPU acceleration was causing timeout errors.

16-02-2012, 18:19	#21
ShadowHearth Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Co. cork Posts: 12,669 Adverts \| Friends	Interesting chart m8. The one I checked 6970 CF had way better power consumption then gtx 570 sli. Maybe multi gpu setups would differ alot from single gpu power consumption?

16-02-2012, 19:03	#22
Monotype Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Krakatoa Posts: 5,543 Adverts \| Friends	It could happen that certain tasks will be better optimised in SLI or crossfire and have lower power consumption. Average power draws could change too and for one or the other and be related to drivers. The maximum is still going to stay the same (x2) and this is what you should always consider when picking a PSU to suit. It's hard to find a review directly comparing SLI 570 directly to crossfire 6970. It would be foolish to compare two reviews too as they could be measuring them at different points, with different applications and with different motherboards/CPUs/configurations. I find that techpowerup are one of the most reliable for actual graphics card consumption as they test the consumption of the card itself and not the whole system at the wall (which adds in PSU inefficiencies and everything).

16-02-2012, 20:33	#25
Monotype Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Krakatoa Posts: 5,543 Adverts \| Friends	Wow, that's a fairly big chuck of a gap. I'm not sure I'd trust anandtech entirely with some of their charts. I previously tracked some of their figures back to reviews where they had taken them from and it seems that they don't use the same systems to test, and they measure at the wall. I suppose it's a lot to ask them to test them all on the exact same system as they probably don't have the cards in their hands all at the same time. The test equipment that techpowerup refers to is most likely expensive as well. I wouldn't rule out bias in any of these sites either. We'll have to get our own testing equipment to be sure!

16-02-2012, 21:20	#27
Serephucus Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,677 Adverts \| Friends	I actually really like that idea...

16-02-2012, 21:43	#29
Tea_Bag Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Going nowhere, sloooowly Posts: 4,838 Adverts \| Friends	NTMK has 2 6970s, and headshot has 2 gtx570s. I'd donate a PC as a test bench, and throw in my 6990 to show what real power consumption is all about . this could actually work. sure I've been looking into getting a power meter for a while now.

16-02-2012, 21:59	#30
ShadowHearth Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Co. cork Posts: 12,669 Adverts \| Friends	Like I said lads. It's weird with how much power gtx 570 sli takes. Way less then 6970 in some reviews... I sow on YouTube fella having safe setup on 650w 2xgtx 570.