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mikemac1 · 17-02-2012, 22:35

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Originally Posted by breadmonster

Its not actually that bad if theyd just get all the junkies off it. Need some sort of bylaw enforced to ban junkies from the city center.

Why are the clinics in the city centre anyway?

Shut them down and build a super clinic down by the docks

The Luas can take them down there and they won't be hanging around shops and places of business all day and angering the owners.

It's industrial down there

Not saying out of sight, out of mind but business owners are paying big money in rates and they are suffering if there is a clinic nearby

And one top clinic may provide better service then many small ones. The Luas slices through these areas so it's not a problem to get down there

Rangi · 17-02-2012, 23:56

The main reason seats were not included in the upgrade of the area,was that they would encourage the scumbags to actually sit down and drink their drink,take their drugs,and make the place look worse,rather than just hang around!

mikemac1 · 18-02-2012, 00:11

Yeah, they went to the boardwalk instead

Lots of seating to hang around, relax and hassle tourists and locals

Bambi · 18-02-2012, 10:56

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Originally Posted by mikemac1

Why are the clinics in the city centre anyway?

Shut them down and build a super clinic down by the docks

The Luas can take them down there and they won't be hanging around shops and places of business all day and angering the owners.

It's industrial down there

Not saying out of sight, out of mind but business owners are paying big money in rates and they are suffering if there is a clinic nearby

And one top clinic may provide better service then many small ones. The Luas slices through these areas so it's not a problem to get down there

You're gas

mikemac1 · 18-02-2012, 12:32

Tell me something better so

gigino · 21-02-2012, 12:44

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Originally Posted by cson

Typing this out on my phone so it'll be brief, but its just struck me there how much of a hole the main thoroughfare in our capital city is. Wall to wall fast food places and tatty neon signs. And despite all of this it still has so much potential - some fantastic georgian architecture if only it was cared for

It has the potential to be a lovely street again. I often there quite often and it never ceases to amaze me how tacky and grubby it is. Its one of the widest main streets in Europe, if not the widest, it could be beautiful again.

D-Generate · 21-02-2012, 13:10

I have been in Dublin 8 months now and due to the awful nature of O'Connell St and its environs I have only crossed O'Connell St Bridge 4 or 5 times in that time (not including trips to the airport and the likes).
It truly is an awful kip on O'Connell St with a very threatening atmosphere. There are very few places in the world where you are walking down one of the main thoroughfares of a city in broad daylight and have to be wary about someone coming up hassling you for money. No other major cities* seem to allow their main streets descend into a haven for junkies and knackers quite like Dublin has allowed O'Connell St to become one.

Has there ever been a response by the DCC or the Gardai actually acknowledging the shady aspect to the street?

*The Tenderloin district in San Francisco is hella dodge but at least it is 1 block away from the main area. Also, they tend to hassle their own and not tourists so it is relatively safe despite appearances.

2cool4school · 21-02-2012, 14:00

yeah to be honest the difference in scummyness is evident the minute you cross the river

westmorland street kind of eases you into it as its pretty kippy but once you cross o connell bridge its instantly rougher and scummyer

im not surprised youve been swerving the area d generate

its disgracful how the guards just ignore the problem as if its not there and theres no problem

im embarased being from dublin when this is what visitors see when they come to ireland

its a long term problem that needs to be solved long term

a. the scaldy shops and fast food places need to go

b. the scum have to be tackled and kept away

3. the street has to be revamped and cleaned

4. high end shops have to be attracted

5. ordinary people not scum bags need to be attracted

opinion guy · 21-02-2012, 14:01

Are you kidding OP ?

O'Connell street is ten times better than it was ten years ago

Cool Mo D · 21-02-2012, 15:01

Being asked for money isn't dangerous. If you just say no, they will leave you alone. Honestly, O'Connell street isn't dangerous in the slightest. It's certainly run down and tatty in parts, and has its share of drunks and addicts, but ignore them and they'll ignore you.

**Fluorescence** · 21-02-2012, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Cool Mo D

Being asked for money isn't dangerous. If you just say no, they will leave you alone. Honestly, O'Connell street isn't dangerous in the slightest. It's certainly run down and tatty in parts, and has its share of drunks and addicts, but ignore them and they'll ignore you.

I agree, but the romas can be extremely annoying during the day. They will happily mumble, "plzbittamoniescanyougivemepleaseIsopoor" at you for 20 minutes while you just keep saying "NO." They're relentless!

John_Rambo · 21-02-2012, 18:32

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Originally Posted by D-Generate

very threatening atmosphere. There are very few places in the world where you are walking down one of the main thoroughfares of a city in broad daylight and have to be wary about someone coming up hassling you for money

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shangri la · 22-02-2012, 02:22

It looks grand but its full of chippers and pubs which sums up Ireland but what else can afford the rent but booze related activities?

Dodge · 22-02-2012, 02:35

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Originally Posted by D-Generate

There are very few places in the world where you are walking down one of the main thoroughfares of a city in broad daylight and have to be wary about someone coming up hassling you for money..

I've never been to a city and NOT seen beggers of some sort or another. Presume some feel extra embaressment because its in their city. It might even be the case were people don't really notice stuff like this while on holiday (too busy enjoying themselves) but get sick of being confronted by it every day/week

I know I've never felt threatened (or close to being threatened) by them, but they're an eyesore. No question

D-Generate · 22-02-2012, 08:25

You don't get asked for "some change bud" every 15 feet when walking along Oxford Street, Champs-Elysees, Unter den Linden, Times Square, Dam Square (you have to go to the designated dodgy area to be pestered).
Heck, even closer to home you don't get hassled when walking down Patrick St. in Cork.

Saying that it exists in other cities (which it doesn't to the same extent) is to choose to ignore that it is a problem and that it does reflect poorly on the city. I love Dublin, but I certainly hate this aspect of it.

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17-02-2012, 23:56	#47
Rangi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 127 Adverts \| Friends	The main reason seats were not included in the upgrade of the area,was that they would encourage the scumbags to actually sit down and drink their drink,take their drugs,and make the place look worse,rather than just hang around!

18-02-2012, 00:11	#48
mikemac1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 8,538 Adverts \| Friends	Yeah, they went to the boardwalk instead Lots of seating to hang around, relax and hassle tourists and locals

18-02-2012, 12:32	#50
mikemac1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 8,538 Adverts \| Friends	Tell me something better so

21-02-2012, 13:10	#52
D-Generate Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 2,908 Adverts \| Friends	I have been in Dublin 8 months now and due to the awful nature of O'Connell St and its environs I have only crossed O'Connell St Bridge 4 or 5 times in that time (not including trips to the airport and the likes). It truly is an awful kip on O'Connell St with a very threatening atmosphere. There are very few places in the world where you are walking down one of the main thoroughfares of a city in broad daylight and have to be wary about someone coming up hassling you for money. No other major cities* seem to allow their main streets descend into a haven for junkies and knackers quite like Dublin has allowed O'Connell St to become one. Has there ever been a response by the DCC or the Gardai actually acknowledging the shady aspect to the street? *The Tenderloin district in San Francisco is hella dodge but at least it is 1 block away from the main area. Also, they tend to hassle their own and not tourists so it is relatively safe despite appearances.

21-02-2012, 14:00	#53
2cool4school Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: the leisure circle Posts: 121 Adverts \| Friends	yeah to be honest the difference in scummyness is evident the minute you cross the river westmorland street kind of eases you into it as its pretty kippy but once you cross o connell bridge its instantly rougher and scummyer im not surprised youve been swerving the area d generate its disgracful how the guards just ignore the problem as if its not there and theres no problem im embarased being from dublin when this is what visitors see when they come to ireland its a long term problem that needs to be solved long term a. the scaldy shops and fast food places need to go b. the scum have to be tackled and kept away 3. the street has to be revamped and cleaned 4. high end shops have to be attracted 5. ordinary people not scum bags need to be attracted

21-02-2012, 14:01	#54
opinion guy Closed Account Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10,563 Adverts \| Friends	Are you kidding OP ? O'Connell street is ten times better than it was ten years ago

21-02-2012, 15:01	#55
Cool Mo D Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,201 Adverts \| Friends	Being asked for money isn't dangerous. If you just say no, they will leave you alone. Honestly, O'Connell street isn't dangerous in the slightest. It's certainly run down and tatty in parts, and has its share of drunks and addicts, but ignore them and they'll ignore you.

22-02-2012, 02:22	#58
shangri la Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 937 Adverts \| Friends	It looks grand but its full of chippers and pubs which sums up Ireland but what else can afford the rent but booze related activities?

22-02-2012, 08:25	#60
D-Generate Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 2,908 Adverts \| Friends	You don't get asked for "some change bud" every 15 feet when walking along Oxford Street, Champs-Elysees, Unter den Linden, Times Square, Dam Square (you have to go to the designated dodgy area to be pestered). Heck, even closer to home you don't get hassled when walking down Patrick St. in Cork. Saying that it exists in other cities (which it doesn't to the same extent) is to choose to ignore that it is a problem and that it does reflect poorly on the city. I love Dublin, but I certainly hate this aspect of it.