[Ulysses1874]

Originally Posted by ToxicPaddy

Everyone.

Why? For example, I'm not a member of a teacher union, or the INMO, or IMPACT. I don't pay them a membership fee and I don't go to their meetings. Why on Earth should they give a monkey's what I think?

Originally Posted by ToxicPaddy

claiming to represent the PS workers who pay subscriptions to them while on the other same a good number of senior level members are landing cushy numbers on various different boards of quagos everywhere and milking the expenses on top of their already very very generous salaries.

Does that mean they should quit the boards, pull out of Croke Park, and shut schools and hospitals down until they get bigger pay increases for their members?

Originally Posted by ToxicPaddy

yet many I have spoken too, members of these exact unions I might add, are wondering who exactly they seem to be listening too, because it doesn't seem to be their members.

What do they want? More pay cuts? Higher taxes? Hampers and roses on Valentine's Day?

[Uriel.]

Originally Posted by dr.fuzzenstein

That's not quite how salaries are calculated!
If I calculated it like that, I can say I take home about 50 squid a week. My fuel costs are in the region of E3.5k (conservative estimate), Mortgage nearly E10k, add electricity and all other bills, I'm barely scraping by.
However, my actual salary is not exactly great, but not exactly bad, it's average.
It's just that I'm struggling due to changed circumstances, but I can't blame my boss for that, I'm just lucky to have a job (vomits).

that's not what she said.
Mortgage and bills were not part o here calculations as far as I could see. Her point was the comparison of the cost of work versus the monetary benefit from same.

If she did not go to work her fuel costs would be down and so would her childcare costs. It's completely different to what you describe.

[RXMPS]

Originally Posted by filmbuffboy

It really all depends on the individual.

If you have a huge mortgage, car loan, credit cards, loans etc, 3 kids and a bunch of other stuff you would need 100k a year to live very comfortably.

On the other hand if youre a 25 year old male with no debts or children you could live just as comfrotably as the example above on a fraction of the price.

Its all relative!!!

That's a very privileged life.

They are living the dream life in fairness.

100k a year, that's class.

Who wouldn't want a few kids, few cars, huge house, private health insurance, great pension plan, top food and clothes, credit cards etc?

I am 26 earned 32k last year according to my p60 i got last week and I don't own anything besides my car which I payed 5k for, which took a year to spare.

I don't even own a TV, landlords, I rent, pay for bins, broadband, electric, car maintenance, feed and cloth myself, that's all my bills.

I could never afford a house, a car loan, credit cards, kids, holidays etc on my salary which is grand for now and keeps a roof over my head.

If you get a 100k you can't complain.

After all taxes taken out, you are still taking home around 70k net a year.That is serious money.

You have to either useless with money or just greedy, to loose yourself on that.

If someone is struggling on 100k gross, then they only have themselves to blame.

[Gran Hermano]

Originally Posted by RXMPS

That's a very privileged life

If you get a 100k you can't complain.

After all taxes taken out, you are still taking home around 70k net a year.That is serious money.

.

You really think that someone on 100k only pays 30k tax ???

[RXMPS]

Originally Posted by Gran Hermano

You really think that someone on 100k only pays 30k tax ???

In the story above I am taking it that the wife is at home minding the kids, he has her tax credits

Yeah I do think he pays 30k tax.Around that anyway.

[Salmon]

I'd say it's closer to 40 or 45k tax! If they are PS your looking at pension levys as well as income levies, prsi, paye, USC! We really should be talking in nett figures when talking salaries tbf

[gaf1983]

Originally Posted by CricketDude

And thats just killing you that i wont tell you where I work isnt it.
Do you seriously expect someone to post where they work on the internet?

I dont need to give you proof. It makes no difference to my life whether or not you know where I work or if you believe me or not. It makes no difference to your life either. But it seems to knaw at you.

You work for the Irish Cricket Union, don't you?

[gaf1983]

Originally Posted by Quin_Dub

Yes - It is an American company , but here in Ireland.

It's not "Normal performance - It's below expectations , being in the bottom 10% means that you haven't done the job you were expected to do.

Basically , if you are in the bottom 10% you are given a warning and told that your performance is not up to scratch and that you'll be reviewed again in 3 months.

If at that time you are still performing below the expected level you are shown the door.

There is a 5 point scale for the annual review - 5 being top , 1 being bottom

About 5% will get a "5" , about 10% will get "4" , about 65%-70% will get a "3" , 5-10% will get a "2" and the remainder will get the dreaded "1"


People on 4 or 5 score will get a good pay rise and bonus , those getting a 3 will likely get a bonus but no pay rise and those on 1 and 2 will get nothing , with the 1's getting the warning and follow up review as described above.

All of the pay rises/bonus are based on the company hitting it's overall goals btw - I got no payrises at all during 2002 to 2008 as the company were going through a rough patch, but they've been doing well for the last 4 years or so despite the overall economy...

It's harsh ,but it's the way it's always been , the company are very transparent about how the process works and everybody is well informed through the year - In other words , nobody getting a "1" should be surprised, it will have been flagged all year in meetings with their managers etc.

Sounds like Cisco. Is it?

[Quin_Dub]

Originally Posted by woodoo

Thats true. And what if everyone hits their targets does nobody get sacked.

In theory yes, however it never quite works out like that. Having said that even if everyone hit their targets you'd still have a bottom 10% . They wouldn't get fired , but equally they wouldn't get payrises or bonus

[Quin_Dub]

Originally Posted by gaf1983

Sounds like Cisco. Is it?

Not Cisco , but I know lots of people working in a variety of High Tech US companies and they all follow the same basic process

[Nothingbetter2d]

Originally Posted by KittyeeTrix

Aye, but your back would be f***ed from all the bending down to pick it up!!!

not if you buy one of these bad boys http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-47418.../dp/B001GUXO4M

[Nothingbetter2d]

Originally Posted by CricketDude

Are you saying you want to reduce your own holidays to 2 weeks a year?
Or just other peoples?






I work in a place where we have better terms than the public sector.
27 days hols with an extra day for each year of service. (plus good Friday and the days at christmas as bonus days)
35 hour working week.
Paid overtime.
Noone in the company on less than 75k
VHI
Bonus
8% of salary paid into pension whether you contribute yourself or not.
€350 a month towards mortgage or rent every month on top of your salary.

And I havent seen a year yet where we didnt get a pay rise of less than 5%.

And would you believe it, most of my colleagues still complain about what the public sector get every day.

I think its just in people nature to begrudge someone else.

your a solicitor right?

[Fromthetrees]

Originally Posted by marketty

So true, reminds me of a quote I heard from someone, can't remember who
'the difference between Ireland and America is that in America people see a wealthy man with a nice house and nice car and say "I want to be that guy" whereas in Ireland they say "I want to kill that guy" '
How come so many people expect guards nurses and teachers to work for minimum wage yet the same people often won't come off the dole for a minimum wage job?

It was Bono.

[CricketDude]

Originally Posted by twowheelsonly

Apparently not... I keep asking and nobody wants to reply

I shared mine, but was called a liar. Then everyone wants to know where you work, as if you are going to put that on the internet. If you dont tell them you are working for the public sector, or a union, or a banker, or a solicitor.

[mallachyrivers]

Originally Posted by mickrock

Taller men tend to earn more.

Try to be taller.

But how tall is tall enough to earn more?