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08-02-2012, 11:08   #16
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OP do you have a link to the article? I'd like to get a read of it.
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Any idea what sites they might put on them anybody?
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There are two versions of the A3, the A3 and the A3 SF.

See http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/en/military-law-enf/
There was also an Austeyr A4, but that seems to have dropped off the radar somewhat.

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Thanks. Is that a mechanism release catch on the A3?
It is.
This presentation covers where the aussies are going with the f-88 http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2011smallar...397Evenden.pdf
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Thanks. Is that a mechanism release catch on the A3?
If your refering to the catch on the side of the butt, just behind the magazine, then it's an extra magazine catch required in the US, AFAIK for the purpose of preventing high speed mag changes etc
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If your refering to the catch on the side of the butt, just behind the magazine, then it's an extra magazine catch required in the US, AFAIK for the purpose of preventing high speed mag changes etc
You're talking out your arse - it's the Bolt Release Catch and it releases the action forward following an IA.
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The PDF already use the AUG A2 in limited numbers, fitted with an Elcan sight. And have been using them for a good few years.

You can see it being used on a live fire range in a video on the DF youtube page.



I've been told that in the future most members of each section on training exercises and overseas will be issued with an A2 mounted with an Elcan Spectre DR sight (different from the one in the video) while the rest will use the A1.

Non-infantry units (Artillery, Logs, Comms, etc) will continue to use the A1.

I've also been told that the A3 is a no go for general issue because of the cost and added weight. Plus the fact that accessories that could be mounted to the side rails (PEQ units, lights, grips etc) aren't on general issue anyways, so unless those accessories go on general issue then the A3 won't be considered because it isn't necessary.

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You're talking out your arse - it's the Bolt Release Catch and it releases the action forward following an IA.
Boll*x it is, I've been firing the Steyr for over 20 years, and there is no specific bolt release catch, when the action locks to the rear it is released by means of the the cocking handle. Try checking out who your talking to before you talk out of your arse!!

I may be wrong about the reason for the extra magazine release catch, and thats why I said AFAIK (As Far As I Know)
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Boll*x it is, I've been firing the Steyr for over 20 years, and there is no specific bolt release catch, when the action locks to the rear it is released by means of the the cocking handle. Try checking out who your talking to before you talk out of your arse!!

I may be wrong about the reason for the extra magazine release catch, and thats why I said AFAIK (As Far As I Know)
Actually he's correct. It is a bolt release catch.

That "extra magazine release" you see on the side of M4's is also a bolt release catch, it is the button that is used to release the action after the hold open device holds it to the rear when there's an empty magazine. That feature was taken from the M4/M16 design and added to the more recent Steyr AUG designs for the american market.

Also if you watch the official Steyr presentation video on the A3 SF you'll see the button being used after a magazine change to release the action without having to use the cocking handle.

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[QUOTE=amurph0;76988964]Actually he's correct. It is a bolt release catch.

That "extra magazine release" you see on the side of M4's is also a bolt release catch, it is the button that is used to release the action after the hold open device holds it to the rear when there's an empty magazine. /QUOTE]

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I must be stuck in the past with the Irish version
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The Steyr design has been around for so many years, it's inevitable that there are changes made in the design over the last few decades.

This, for example, is very definitely a bolt release.



Whereas this...


is a magazine release.

The one on the A3 linked to in the earlier post is a bolt release.

Manual located here: http://www.steyrarms.com/fileadmin/u...USA_Manual.pdf "Bolt Release Lever"
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not the one i first read but ah sure
http://www.herald.ie/news/defence-fo...e-2926884.html
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09-02-2012, 14:48   #27
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New housing with rail system and sight system will be the order of the day.
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Actually he's correct. It is a bolt release catch.

That "extra magazine release" you see on the side of M4's is also a bolt release catch, it is the button that is used to release the action after the hold open device holds it to the rear when there's an empty magazine. /QUOTE]

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I must be stuck in the past with the Irish version
You're not alone. For those of us who remember the FN, IA's may just get more familiar again
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Actually he's correct. It is a bolt release catch.

That "extra magazine release" you see on the side of M4's is also a bolt release catch, it is the button that is used to release the action after the hold open device holds it to the rear when there's an empty magazine. /QUOTE]

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I must be stuck in the past with the Irish version
No worries. I could have been a bit more diplomatic myself. Anyway, the A3 looks a good choice for the replacement.
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Whereas this...


is a magazine release.
Yep that's the one I was confusing it with, Manic, can you tell us what was the reasoning behind the fitting of these auxillary magazine catches? And are they state specific or country wide
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