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elevendarter · 13-06-2012, 20:50

These 22g Foxfire looks sort of similar to the Phase 5. I think they might be good. Nevertheless they probably would be equivalent to 24g in soft tips terminology.
I used to prefer straight shape, but now with Phase5 I consider this bullet or bomb shape being slightly better. I improved in grouping in smaller areas with them.
DartsCorner is a great shop as well as Double Top Darts Shop is. I have good experiences with both of them.

I dont get what the "28" is. What is B? Bull? Then from bull and 20 to 15 is only 21 darts. And average of 4? To be honest, I didn´t understand much the system of points you mentioned earlier in your posts. Could you explain it to me?

gramar · 14-06-2012, 07:21

28 is just a practice game for cricket. 3 darts at each number from bull to 15. So you're throwing 21 darts and the aim is to get 28 or more hits (a single is 1 hit, a triple is 3 hits etc). That means with each three darts you have to hit an average of 4 of
each number, say a T20 and a single. Of course you could hit 7 20's and only 1 18 and your average is still 4 per number. Getting to 28 means you have to go for the triples or otherwise it's impossible so it helps to focus the mind. Beginners could play 14 looking to get two hits per 3 darts and top players could be playing 42 trying to get 6 hits per round.

At the moment I'm hitting about 20 per round on average so that's 1 hit per throw on average but to get to 28 I need to get that up to 4 hits every three darts. I practise sometimes with the No1 programme as well although it's been a while and I can't
remember what level it was but I needed about a 3 average to have a chance of winning.

One thing is practising hitting numbers and another is deciding what numbers to hit in game, close your opponents numbers or open your own and put some points on the board.

elevendarter · 14-06-2012, 17:24

I was kind of dumb yesterday. In the morning I woke up and out of blue it came to my mind what the 28 was... I even tried it before I have read your last post and managed to get a scores from 10! to 21. Six attempts, three with Phase 5 = 44 and three with 21g = 50. But it was the very first darts I had thrown at the board after I had come home without practise. I´ll give it a try later. ...Now I am confused with my english more than with the darts :-))

Anyway, I agree, tactics in cricket is key thing!! Many times I argued with my team mates how to play it..

I´m off out, going to the local tournament..

gramar · 26-06-2012, 08:24

I haven't had time to really try out the foxfire steel tips but I'm throwing them better than the others. The darts are much more balanced and you can feel it when they leave your hand. Then can be grouped very tightly aswell if unlike me you're good at grouping. Maybe it's the novelty of new darts but my accuracy has defintely improved but I need more time as I've probably only thrown them for an hour over the course of the last week.

Good service from darts corner who got them to me with a few the bits and pieces in 4 working days.

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13-06-2012, 20:50	#31
elevendarter Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 39 Adverts \| Friends	These 22g Foxfire looks sort of similar to the Phase 5. I think they might be good. Nevertheless they probably would be equivalent to 24g in soft tips terminology. I used to prefer straight shape, but now with Phase5 I consider this bullet or bomb shape being slightly better. I improved in grouping in smaller areas with them. DartsCorner is a great shop as well as Double Top Darts Shop is. I have good experiences with both of them. I dont get what the "28" is. What is B? Bull? Then from bull and 20 to 15 is only 21 darts. And average of 4? To be honest, I didn´t understand much the system of points you mentioned earlier in your posts. Could you explain it to me?

14-06-2012, 07:21	#32
gramar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 354 Adverts \| Friends	28 is just a practice game for cricket. 3 darts at each number from bull to 15. So you're throwing 21 darts and the aim is to get 28 or more hits (a single is 1 hit, a triple is 3 hits etc). That means with each three darts you have to hit an average of 4 of each number, say a T20 and a single. Of course you could hit 7 20's and only 1 18 and your average is still 4 per number. Getting to 28 means you have to go for the triples or otherwise it's impossible so it helps to focus the mind. Beginners could play 14 looking to get two hits per 3 darts and top players could be playing 42 trying to get 6 hits per round. At the moment I'm hitting about 20 per round on average so that's 1 hit per throw on average but to get to 28 I need to get that up to 4 hits every three darts. I practise sometimes with the No1 programme as well although it's been a while and I can't remember what level it was but I needed about a 3 average to have a chance of winning. One thing is practising hitting numbers and another is deciding what numbers to hit in game, close your opponents numbers or open your own and put some points on the board.

14-06-2012, 17:24	#33
elevendarter Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 39 Adverts \| Friends	I was kind of dumb yesterday. In the morning I woke up and out of blue it came to my mind what the 28 was... I even tried it before I have read your last post and managed to get a scores from 10! to 21. Six attempts, three with Phase 5 = 44 and three with 21g = 50. But it was the very first darts I had thrown at the board after I had come home without practise. I´ll give it a try later. ...Now I am confused with my english more than with the darts :-)) Anyway, I agree, tactics in cricket is key thing!! Many times I argued with my team mates how to play it.. I´m off out, going to the local tournament..

26-06-2012, 08:24	#34
gramar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 354 Adverts \| Friends	I haven't had time to really try out the foxfire steel tips but I'm throwing them better than the others. The darts are much more balanced and you can feel it when they leave your hand. Then can be grouped very tightly aswell if unlike me you're good at grouping. Maybe it's the novelty of new darts but my accuracy has defintely improved but I need more time as I've probably only thrown them for an hour over the course of the last week. Good service from darts corner who got them to me with a few the bits and pieces in 4 working days.