[argosy2006]

Lets buy 4 average players for a total cost of more than two world class players,
Our squad is so strong, I say we are in position now to add 2 world class player per season,
30 million euro each,

[aaronh007]

Originally Posted by argosy2006

Lets buy 4 average players for a total cost of more than two world class players,
Our squad is so strong, I say we are in position now to add 2 world class player per season,
30 million euro each,

Where the feck are we gonna get €60 million from? I'm all for dreaming about world class signings and all but... have you been drinking?

[Leiva]

Just like before the January window folk are expecting big signings in the summer which just ain't gonna happen .

The owners spent big to rebuild which is not going to be the norm .

I'm just hoping with all the commercial activities over the past six months that we have a big flurry on a marquee striker .

I know we need more than that when it comes to the overall squad , but I would rather one WC player than say two or three Fletchers **cough Adam type signings .

[Gbear]

Originally Posted by Dublin_Gunner

Lucas is a good player, and he's missed, but to think having him on the pitch may have turned a lot of draws / defeats into wins is quite frankly absurd.

The fact of the matter is that without Lucas we've scored less, conceded more and picked up fewer points.

[spockety]

Originally Posted by mixednuts

The owners sold big to rebuild which is not going to be the norm .



.

Fyp.

[koppy]

i think we need

a central defender thats ready to play..for cover for agger/skertel.
wingers for both sides that can cross a decent ball.
a proven striker that will hit 20 +m a yr.
cover for lucas.

think we need to sort out what saurez is..is he a striker..a provider..winger type attacker. at the minute he not doing any of the above. i dont think were strong enough to have a player in that does not do much but look good on the ball. not saying get rid of him but just think we need to find out how to get the best out of him

[Dublin_Gunner]

Originally Posted by Gbear

The fact of the matter is that without Lucas we've scored less, conceded more and picked up fewer points.

I could probably come up with a similar statistic for when Maxi plays or not.

[greendom]

Originally Posted by mike65

Where the **** do people reckon the money for all (any) of these dream players is coming from?

It's the new Liverpool way. Fund for new purchases by getting rid of the old dross. Replace with new dross so it can be repeated in a year's time. I'm not sure the getting rid of a major player for top dollar because you but no one else realise he's past it is going to work again though. Reina perhaps ? It's not going to work with Carroll, that's for sure

[murpho999]

Not sure if true, but read on a Manc friends FB today that today is the 8000th day since LFC won the league....made me sad!

It's been far too long and no end in sight!

[Leiva]

Originally Posted by spockety

Fyp.

Look I understand that but a spend is a spend .

They sold assets their assets they purchased during buying the club.

They had every right to not respend the income from sales , but then run the risk of the UFFP rules , or even be accused of asset stripping . I wish in some instances they did put the brakes on and hold onto the cash for a later transfer window .

But look the money is spent (no matter how generated) and we still find ourselves with massive squad short comings .

I just can't see £100mil being made available again , so if there is circa £25mil available then let's go for WC , or as close to , as we can get .

No more relagation Championship bound stars please .

[djPSB]

Originally Posted by daithijjj

Sorry, had some things to do.

We need central midfielders who get into the box to support the strikers. We need to decide how the team is going to play, its too difficult to play a 'big man small man' combo when nobody is sure if its going to be intricate play or crossing it for the head of Carroll.

In my opinion, Suarez needs a Lineker/Rush type to play off, him and Carroll do not work. Similarly, if Carroll is going to play there we need midfielders swarming around him when he wins the flick ons. The only time i recall Suarez and Carroll rapport being decent was the game at West Brom, when West Brom were a disgrace that day to be honest. Whats interesting with Carroll for me, is that if you look at him from his time with Newcastle he was far more speedy and flexible, in comparison to today's Carroll where he looks like he cant run. Either he is not fit or his training is not helping him, i dont know if its muscle bulk or what, too much weights slows players down imho, it slowed Insua down markedly imo. One worrying thing for me was the CC final when he nodded it to Suarez on the edge of the box, Suarez picked up the flick, beat a player, got in towards the endline and had to shoot from a poor angle as Carroll was ball watching and still on the edge of the box, he should have been busting a gut and made no effort at all.

We haven't even given the 'big man, small man' partnership a chance to work. They haven't played enough games together to deem it successful or unsuccessful.

On too many occasions, we see either Suarez or Carroll playing up front on their own in total isolation. Even the best striker in the world wouldn't thrive on such a system.

The whole system needs to be rejigged. In fairness to Kenny, injuries have played a major part. Alot of it comes down to central midfield which is the engine room of the team. And anything that's being powered by Jay Spearing and Charlie Adam is going to suffer more often than not.

[djPSB]

Originally Posted by Dublin_Gunner

While Lucas is obviously a loss, its not the defensive part of our game that's been at fault for our current position.

Lucas wasn't going to get us another 15-20 goals the past couple of months, now was he?

No he wouldn't.

But if Lucas was fit, it would allow us to play a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 formation which would leads to more players being committed forward.

[Leiva]

Originally Posted by djPSB

We haven't even given the 'big man, small man' partnership a chance to work. They haven't played enough games together to deem it successful or unsuccessful.

On too many occasions, we see either Suarez or Carroll playing up front on their own in total isolation. Even the best striker in the world wouldn't thrive on such a system.

The whole system needs to be rejigged. In fairness to Kenny, injuries have played a major part. Alot of it comes down to central midfield which is the engine room of the team. And anything that's being powered by Jay Spearing and Charlie Adam is going to suffer more often than not.

Honestly i just dont see Carroll fitting in anywhere - be it with current players or prospective future singings .

I have seen enough of what he has on offer and frankly it's not that impressive.

I'm starting to think Kenny realises this aswell .

[ASOT]

Anyone manage to get in to see rafa today ??

[djPSB]

Originally Posted by mixednuts

Honestly i just dont see Carroll fitting in anywhere - be it with current players or prospective future singings .

I have seen enough of what he has on offer and frankly it's not that impressive.

I'm starting to think Kenny realises this aswell .

I'm not going to get into the Carroll debate again.

I'd hang onto him. Anytime he has played since Christmas he has met my expectations. He's not a world class striker and never will be. It depends what you expect from him.

Plus we'd only get 10-12m for him. It's about adding to what we have. I don't see any reason why bringing in another striker would mean Carroll would have to leave.