[daithijjj]

3 of those 6 were against united and spurs, dont look too much into it. Stats annoy my hole to be honest, heres an unusual one though.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...age-of-32.html

[Dublin_Gunner]

Originally Posted by daithijjj

3 of those 6 were against united and spurs, dont look too much into it. Stats annoy my hole to be honest, heres an unusual one though.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...age-of-32.html

That's some stat for Bellers. He really has turned out to be an incredible piece of business for us.

[SM01]

I noticed on twitter this morning a couple of tweets by Raymond Verheijen (Gary Speed's assistant in the Wales set-up, Craig Bellamy's erstwhile fitness coach and vocal advocate of periodisation training) that are critical of Liverpool's handling of player's fitness. This won't be the first time he's had a pop at the club - he previously questioned the sense in playing Suarez in the Carling Cup against Exeter City in August, suggesting he'd be more susceptible to injury after not having a proper summer break.

Anyway, here's his tweets:


-Last Sunday Liverpool played 120min in Cup Final. After 90min the body needs 48hrs recovery. After 120min at least 72hrs. Johnson & Gerrard?

-On Wed vs Holland Gerrard came off after 30min with hamstring. Johnson got injured in training on Tue. How do you explain this to Liverpool?

Verheijen has a reputation for being quite antagonistic and has fallen out with a fair few folk in football however in training terms he's considered highly as is a football-specific periodisation approach. Hopefully the two players in question won't be adversely affected for tomorrow's game.

[Gbear]

Originally Posted by Luis21

If they offer anything over 30 million then we should bite their hand off. He really isn't that good and is a nutcase.

You sure you have the right username mate?

[Gbear]

Originally Posted by Dub13

All our trips are around this price,all I will say to lads that are thinking of traveling with us is to join now and try to be active....as nothing worse as lads just trying to use us for trips.

It's a fair point but it's tough work having to commit to 3 different Liverpool fora.

How about you just copy and paste my posts on boards onto irish kop?

[mike65]

Originally Posted by daithijjj

3 of those 6 were against united and spurs, dont look too much into it. Stats annoy my hole to be honest, heres an unusual one though.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...age-of-32.html

Such a pity that Charlie Adam will have more than "compensated" for all that zip!

[citytillidie]

Originally Posted by SM01

I noticed on twitter this morning a couple of tweets by Raymond Verheijen (Gary Speed's assistant in the Wales set-up, Craig Bellamy's erstwhile fitness coach and vocal advocate of periodisation training) that are critical of Liverpool's handling of player's fitness. This won't be the first time he's had a pop at the club - he previously questioned the sense in playing Suarez in the Carling Cup against Exeter City in August, suggesting he'd be more susceptible to injury after not having a proper summer break.

Anyway, here's his tweets:


-Last Sunday Liverpool played 120min in Cup Final. After 90min the body needs 48hrs recovery. After 120min at least 72hrs. Johnson & Gerrard?

-On Wed vs Holland Gerrard came off after 30min with hamstring. Johnson got injured in training on Tue. How do you explain this to Liverpool?

Verheijen has a reputation for being quite antagonistic and has fallen out with a fair few folk in football however in training terms he's considered highly as is a football-specific periodisation approach. Hopefully the two players in question won't be adversely affected for tomorrow's game.

But that was not Liverpool's fault.


Liverpool did not play mid week it was England who trained and played those players

[killwill]

Originally Posted by citytillidie

But that was not Liverpool's fault.


Liverpool did not play mid week it was England who trained and played those players

I thinkvthe point is that Liverpool should not have made them available. The club should have said they were suffering from fatigue.

[opr]

The other side of the coin is Gerrard himself wants to and loves playing for this country. I think Kenny would have left the decision to him rightly or wrongly and he was always going to make himself available. (He might think a little differently after the captaincy issue)

Opr

[SM01]

Players will always want to play. In Gerrard's case up until shortly before the game he was under the impression he was a shoo-in for the captaincy - understandably an emotive situation - who wouldn't play in such a situation even if they are feeling a little achey or tired? The attitude would be to just grin and get on with it. However I would expect that the club's fitness coaches and those at the FA would be well aware of a player's ability to recover in time and appreciate that playing when tired increases susceptiblity to injury. Verheijen implies that this isn't the case.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Verheijen is infallible however I do think there's substance to alot of what he says and the work he has done to get Bellamy back on track has been an eye-opener.

[Leiva]

I think we are all in agreement that tomorrow is a must win if we have any hope of nicking 4th spot ?

[Kess73]

Originally Posted by mixednuts

I think we are all in agreement that tomorrow is a must win if we have any hope of nicking 4th spot ?

Yep. Arsenal win and they go 10 points clear of us, albeit with a game more played.

Even a draw keeps them with a 7 point buffer.

[Andy Carroll]

Do any clubs give players 48 hours off after a match? If you play on Saturday at 3pm, do you not train till Monday at 5pm? If you play Monday night football do you not turn up for training until after 10pm on Wednesday night or Thursday morning?

I doubt it...

[Dublin_Gunner]

Originally Posted by The-Rigger

Do any clubs give players 48 hours off after a match? If you play on Saturday at 3pm, do you not train till Monday at 5pm? If you play Monday night football do you not turn up for training until after 10pm on Wednesday night or Thursday morning?

I doubt it...

Doubt it. They might get 1 day off, or it would be a fairly light session the following day if mon-fri I'd imagine.

Is Liverpool's training schedule anywhere? (and yes, I know the squad does individual training too, but I'm just talking about full squad training).

[Leiva]

Originally Posted by The-Rigger

Do any clubs give players 48 hours off after a match? If you play on Saturday at 3pm, do you not train till Monday at 5pm? If you play Monday night football do you not turn up for training until after 10pm on Wednesday night or Thursday morning?

I doubt it...

Post match training (ie) next 48hrs wouldn't be half as intense as midweek sessions -centered on rest , recovery , rehydrate .
It would be mainly built around spinning bike session , small drills , some light ball work .