[CDfm]

Well its here. The Titanic Centenary.

Memorabilia is on sale again.

Hat worn by Titanic lookout up for grabs


By Steve Hayes 05/01 Updated: 11/01 11:21

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TITANIC memorabilia including an historic item of headwear is being offered for sale at a museum near Stratford.
A cap worn by the lookout who first spotted the iceberg and survived the sinking of the legendary ship in 1912 is the star item at the first of a series of monthly sales fairs on Sunday January 15 at the the Armouries museum at Pathlow.
The cap belonging to Frederick Fleet, who was one of the two lookouts on the doomed vessel, is expected to fetch as much as £50,000. At auction in 1965 the hat fetched £225.
It is being sold by Worcester militaria dealer Conrad Chin-See who has owned the hat for the past 15 years, but who is now selling with interest in the Titanic higher than ever with the 100th anniversary of the disaster on April 15.
Mr Chin-See is also selling a rare memorial scroll, sold at newstands ion the days after the sinking to help raise money for the survivors, which is expected to fetch £500, and also a front page of the Northern Echo newspaper, estimated at around £150.
Among a host of Second World War memorabilia being sold at the sale is a copy of Reach for the Sky, the life story of Douglas Bader signed by eight Spitfire pilots.
But there will plenty on offer for people without such deep pockets, with militaria, such as medals, books, and weaponry, and aviation items, on offer starting from just a few pounds.
Organiser, Nicholas Milton, said: "There will be something for everyone at these fairs from those who simply want to come along to look to serious collectors."
"2012 is the 100th anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic so we anticipate there will be a lot of interest in these items.


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Built in Belfast and Cobh was the last port of call.

I remember seeing a list from a town in Mayo where 15 people from the one town who had sold up to go to America were casualties.

Thats a bit different to millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim & his ladyfriend who were also passengers.

I know very little about the Titanic, the movie put me off, and I would be really interested in knowing more but from an Irish angle.

[Bannasidhe]

Bit of personal family history - my great-grand mother ( a wealthy local 'entrepreneur' in Cork who had business interests in the States) had booked a 2nd class passage on Titanic back in 1911 when tickets first went on sale (cost -around £13 http://www.historyonthenet.com/Titanic/secondclass.htm) but decided not to travel in April as she was 6 months pregnant and was worried about sea sickness and possibility child may be born in US away from the support of her family.

In July, a baby girl was duly born in Cork - this was my Grand-mother. So if Big Nonie Donovan from Blackrock had decided to travel - I may very well not be here.

Nonie was also on the train that was ambushed at Upton in 1921- 8 months pregnant at the time. She always claimed she survived because she swapped seats with a friend who got travel sick if sitting with her back to the engine. The friend was one of 6 civilians to die.

[Judgement Day]

Originally Posted by CDfm

Well its here. The Titanic Centenary.

Memorabilia is on sale again.



Built in Belfast and Cobh was the last port of call.

I remember seeing a list from a town in Mayo where 15 people from the one town who had sold up to go to America were casualties.

Thats a bit different to millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim & his ladyfriend who were also passengers.

I know very little about the Titanic, the movie put me off, and I would be really interested in knowing more but from an Irish angle.

Which movie - there are so many of them!

Personally, I had to be dragged to see the James Cameron's "Titanic" (1997) - after all we all know the outcome. That said I was pleasantly surprised. My favourite is still "A Night to Remember" (1958). I have recently purchased a copy of the 1943 Nazi propaganda movie "Titanic" where the hero is, of course, the sole German officer on the crew. Apparently it 'bombed' when released as there were apparently few cinemas still operating in Germany and, in any event, the public sympathised with the passengers.

Full movie list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...he_RMS_Titanic

[CDfm]

Originally Posted by Bannasidhe

In July, a baby girl was duly born in Cork - this was my Grand-mother. So if Big Nonie Donovan from Blackrock had decided to travel - I may very well not be here.

And that would have been our loss

Originally Posted by Judgement Day

Which movie - there are so many of them!

Personally, I had to be dragged to see the James Cameron's "Titanic" (1997)

*shudders*

[kabakuyu]

Originally Posted by CDfm

Well its here. The Titanic Centenary.

Memorabilia is on sale again.



Built in Belfast and Cobh was the last port of call.

I remember seeing a list from a town in Mayo where 15 people from the one town who had sold up to go to America were casualties.

Thats a bit different to millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim & his ladyfriend who were also passengers.

I know very little about the Titanic, the movie put me off, and I would be really interested in knowing more but from an Irish angle.

The Mayo village is Lahardane near Crossmolina http://www.mayo-titanic.com/Lahardane/Default.355.html

[dmcronin]

[QUOTE=CDfm;76527725]Well its here. The Titanic Centenary.

Hopefully, what's planned for Cobh won't sink into a syrup of maudling sentimentality and Celine Dion or, worse, a 'celebration'.

[Manach]

AFAIR, the poorer steerage class passengers suffered the most in that disaster. I always felt it a bitter object lesson on the realities of life in general.

[ZombieBride]

There is this blog on the Limerick victims:

http://www.limerickslife.com/apps/bl...nd-the-titanic

[Judgement Day]

[QUOTE=dmcronin;76884916]

Originally Posted by CDfm

Well its here. The Titanic Centenary.

Hopefully, what's planned for Cobh won't sink into a syrup of maudling sentimentality and Celine Dion or, worse, a 'celebration'.

Judging by the awful "Queenstown Centre" and the various failed attempts to cash in on the Titanic connection, I would not be too optimistic.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...nk-254764.html

Some more about what's planned here: http://cobhedition.com/?p=17035

[roundymac]

Whats wrong with the Queenstown centre?

[XxMCRxBabyxX]

Originally Posted by Manach

AFAIR, the poorer steerage class passengers suffered the most in that disaster. I always felt it a bitter object lesson on the realities of life in general.

That was less to do with their class and more to do with the unfortunate proximity of their cabins to the boat deck as compared to first and second class. It was easier for first and second to get to lifeboats than third

[Judgement Day]

Originally Posted by roundymac

Whats wrong with the Queenstown centre?

Nothing, if you ignore the fact that it's little more than a glorified cafe, and that there's virtually nothing original in it (and they threw out a lot of original artefacts during construction - I actually witnessed it), and that the railway museum that was to be a central part of the project is now this ....

[CDfm]

Originally Posted by Judgement Day

Nothing, if you ignore the fact that it's little more than a glorified cafe, and that there's virtually nothing original in it (and they threw out a lot of original artefacts during construction - I actually witnessed it), and that the railway museum that was to be a central part of the project is now this ....

Wow JD. You got to watch the paint dry -that's got to have livened the place up

[CDfm]

A couple of years back an archive of photo's of the Titanic by a priest Fr Frank Browne was uncovered.

he Father Brown Photographic Collection contains the sole collection of Titanic photographs taken during the Titanic's passage from Southampton to Ireland.

From 1911 to 1916, Frank Browne studied Theology at Milltown Park in Dublin. It was during this period that his Uncle Robert (the Bishop of Cloyne) sent him an unusual present: a ticket for the first legs of the maiden voyage of the Titanic, sailing from Southampton to Cherbourg and then on to Queenstown (Cobh), Co Cork, Ireland.
While on board, an American millionaire offered to pay his way for the rest of the voyage to New York. On being appraised of this suggestion, Frank's Jesuit Superior cabled Queenstown saying, succinctly,“GET OFF THAT SHIP---PROVINCIAL”.
After the tragedy, Frank Browne’s photographs appeared on the front pages of newspapers around the world. He had taken the last picture of Captain Smith and the only one ever taken in the Marconi room. His series starts at Waterloo Station with the “Titanic Special” and documents the activities of passengers and crew aboard this unique ship, concluding with the anchor being raised from the water for the last time


The last photograph of the Titanic, taken by Father Browne as she left Queenstown (Cobh) in Ireland to set across the Atlantic

http://www.the-titanic.com/Gallery/V...ky-Escape.aspx

The photos are here

http://www.titanicphotographs.com/

[dmcronin]

Originally Posted by Judgement Day

Nothing, if you ignore the fact that it's little more than a glorified cafe, and that there's virtually nothing original in it (and they threw out a lot of original artefacts during construction - I actually witnessed it), and that the railway museum that was to be a central part of the project is now this ....

Ah yes, the cop shop that thinks it's a ship

I went into the Queenstown Centre once, was distinctly underwhelmed by the displays, compared to the fine setup of the likes of the Maritime Museum Liverpool, which has a lot of Titanic interest...being it's home port after all. That's what museums in this country should aim for, not a cafe with a heritage centre/tatfest souvenir shop tacked on as an afterthought.

They should have kept the loco that burst through the wall, 'twould have been a bit more interesting