[Wereghost]

Originally Posted by mikemac1

Ridiculous

Factually incorrect, perhaps; but not ridiculous, IMO. They have extreme right-wing Catholicism in common, and Pope Ben's casuistry regarding gay marriage is the kind of thing you'd expect to hear from a tyrannical regime, eg that of Robert Mugabe (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ay-rights.html)

[Bannasidhe]

Originally Posted by EGAR

I am awaiting the swarms of locusts with baited breath.

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Excellent. I've had this recipe for locust bread for years but could never get the ingredients. Wonder if you can freeze it?

[Esel]

Originally Posted by RichieC

Shoit.. I've been saying Holy sea all these years.. what an idiot

Ah no, Dougal. Sure then you'd have Holy Seamen all over the plaice. I prefer tartare sauce, to be honest.

[TheZohanS]

Originally Posted by later10

In fairness it's not a pope's nor a priest's job to merely reflect the opinions of society. They're there to further and perpetuate their ideals and they are perfectly entitled to do so. In fairness to Ratzinger, he is only being honest about Roman Catholic dogma in condemning homosexuality. We can't blame him for that.

The real people who deserve criticism are the minions who fill his pews and give him his megaphone to hate and condemn.

It's up to the pope to study and interpret the bible, there are plenty of Christian religions, German Lutheran for example, that accept gay people and gay relationships.

[the_syco]

Originally Posted by efb

Joe Ratzinger

I'm sure his cult of protecting the peado priests has done a better job at destroying families than a couple of gays have ever done.

[later12]

Originally Posted by TheZohan

there are plenty of Christian religions, German Lutheran for example, that accept gay people and gay relationships.

Yes, and Quakers and Anglicans (the latter to a lesser extent) too; but I didn't say anything about Christians in general.

The Pope is the head of the Roman Catholic church. There are lots of alternatives out there for Roman Catholics, but that is Roman Catholic dogma. Sadly, some people see their future within that church regardless.

It's up to the pope to study and interpret the bible,

Not according to the Roman Catholic Church, which is less dependent on the bible than other sects. The RCC suggests that his role is to rule on moral law and Catholic dogma within the Roman Catholic church; he's not just some Sunday school teacher, but an infallible representative of God (they say).

[Min]

Not having gay marriage in law is not discrimination.

Are gay couples going to say that now that nature itself must change as it discriminates against them when it comes to having children that are biologically from both of the gay couple?

I think the threat is everyone feeling they have some right to this, that and the other, that all traditions must be swept out, otherwise these new discriminations are invented as everything must be homogenised.

It is gone to the point where allowing a difference is now seen as discrimination, though gay couples will never say nature discriminated against them when it came to having biological children from of the same sex couple.

The church gets it's teaching on homosexuality from the bible where it states homosexual sex is a sin. The church will not change it's view as the bible will not be changing it's text, just as the rules of nature only allow for human life to be created naturally via a male/female relationship, to some that may be discrimination but it is no different to Pope Benedict being against gay marriage when the rules of the bible only allow for male/female marriage.

So the Pope thinks there will be consequences, according to the bible there was in the past.
People are making a mountain out of a molehill, read the bible and it is clear that sex outside of marriage is not allowed and also homosexual sex is not allowed. Put that and what the bible said happened in Sodom and Gomorrah together and it is clear the Catholic church is sticking to the teaching of the bible unlike someother Christian faiths.

Anyway, the world is in a mess and it's getting worse, whether that is due to how society has gone is another matter.

[efb]

Originally Posted by Min

Not having gay marriage in law is not discrimination.

Are gay couples going to say that now that nature itself must change as it discriminates against them when it comes to having children that are biologically from both of the gay couple?

I think the threat is everyone feeling they have some right to this, that and the other, that all traditions must be swept out, otherwise these new discriminations are invented as everything must be homogenised.

It is gone to the point where allowing a difference is now seen as discrimination, though gay couples will never say nature discriminated against them when it came to having biological children from of the same sex couple.

The church gets it's teaching on homosexuality from the bible where it states homosexual sex is a sin. The church will not change it's view as the bible will not be changing it's text, just as the rules of nature only allow for human life to be created naturally via a male/female relationship, to some that may be discrimination but it is no different to Pope Benedict being against gay marriage when the rules of the bible only allow for male/female marriage.

So the Pope thinks there will be consequences, according to the bible there was in the past.
People are making a mountain out of a molehill, read the bible and it is clear that sex outside of marriage is not allowed and also homosexual sex is not allowed. Put that and what the bible said happened in Sodom and Gomorrah together and it is clear the Catholic church is sticking to the teaching of the bible unlike someother Christian faiths.

Anyway, the world is in a mess and it's getting worse, whether that is due to how society has gone is another matter.

Science helped infertile couples have kids, and who knows what can be achieved in the future, but your right, biblical parables should be taken literally, but ill take that with a pinch of lott's salt.. mmm wifey!

[TylerIE]

Originally Posted by Min

Not having gay marriage in law is not discrimination.

Are gay couples going to say that now that nature itself must change as it discriminates against them when it comes to having children that are biologically from both of the gay couple?

What about couples that cant have children because they are too old, should they be allowed get married? Or who have biological barriers to reproduction?


People who want equality just want marriage, not some special "gay marriage", just plain simple marriage between two loving consenting adults.

Leave the biological parts of having children up to them to worry about, at least they will actually pay some heed to planning it - many hetrosexual couples, and individuals, and indeed The RCs own teaching doesnt exactly advocate family planning based on your ability or your environments conduciveness to raising a family!

[Andy Carroll]

A malignant cunt.
Adding him to the list...

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B. Ahern
Joe Ratzinger

[joseph brand]

Timothy Dolan.


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[Locker10a]

the pope is NOT god . i belive in god and not the pope ! The Catholic church or the vatican or what ever have been full of ****e from day one ! Living like jesus and being "christian" went out the vatican window a long long time ago !

[Millicent]

Originally Posted by Min

Not having gay marriage in law is not discrimination.

Are gay couples going to say that now that nature itself must change as it discriminates against them when it comes to having children that are biologically from both of the gay couple?

Marriage is not natural so I am unsure why you are hinging a discussion on biological issues.

Also, gay women can still have children naturally, just not with their same-sex partner. Why would you throw in a ridiculous argument about nature having to change when no gay person I have ever met, read or heard of has ever made the argument that it should?

[Doctor Jimbob]

This raving lunatic and the utter shite he insists on coming out with is one of the main things that turned me away from the catholic fucking church.

[Napper Hawkins]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jimbob

This raving lunatic and the utter shite he insists on coming out with is one of the main things that turned me away from the catholic fucking church.

Grown men and women believing in fairy tales, magic and imaginary friends is what sealed the deal for me, but yeah he sucks too.