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ThisRegard · 17-01-2012, 09:29

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Originally Posted by paulmorro

Missing first two races of the season... already my great plans to get back into into this year are getting messed up!

Join the club. I'll miss Howth and Ticknock (I really wanted to do Ticknock as I like that course) because I won't be around. Even if I was here I'm nowhere near fit enough to tackle them, went for my first run last night since Powerscourt Ridge due to being off with a host of bugs and viruses.

Annagh Hill is a great course but again given it's not too far away and the lack of kms in my legs I don't think I'll be able for it. I think I'll be volunteering for that one.

SharkTale · 18-01-2012, 21:00

Thinking about doing Ticknock,

How difficult is the course & will I need to invest in a pair of trail runners?

Thanks in advance.

Slogger Jogger · 18-01-2012, 21:09

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Originally Posted by SharkTale

Thinking about doing Ticknock,

How difficult is the course & will I need to invest in a pair of trail runners?

Thanks in advance.

Difficulty is relative. How fit are you? It depends too on how used you are to running hills - up and down. Hill races can be a shock to the system for those that haven't tried them before. Its a tough run but fun in places too. Theres a bit of everything. Trail and rocky, technical bits. Trail runners would be a lot better than road runners there. Perhaps try it out with whatever runners you have and see how it goes and you can invest if you are attracted to it. There will be runners of all ages and abilities in the race so give it a go. Its a nice social vibe too.

DogSlySmile · 18-01-2012, 21:18

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Originally Posted by SharkTale

Thinking about doing Ticknock,

How difficult is the course & will I need to invest in a pair of trail runners?

Thanks in advance.

Its not too bad. Its a gradual climb for the first 2.5-3m but then its fast all the way home. Foot placement is the biggest challenge IMHO. The last couple of times I've been up there its been very muddy/slippy so trail runners will be an advantage, but not essential.

Slogger Jogger · 22-01-2012, 19:16

Nice win by T-runner today in Howth. All that training is working.

metamagical · 22-01-2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Slogger Jogger

Nice win by T-runner today in Howth. All that training is working.

Yep, well done to him - he was a few metres ahead at the end of the pitch section, but after the first hill I couldn't even see him any more. Today's run was a good reminder I need to start doing some of that training stuff myself

Well done to IMRA as well for a very well organised race, not least for trying to persuade the headphones brigade to leave them off. I mean, it was great to see so many new people running, but I'm still surprised how many of those thought it was a good idea to try to make themselves as oblivious as possible to what was going on around them on a narrow, slippery course.

donothoponpop · 23-01-2012, 09:46

Almost 300 at Howth!

What do people think about limits to the numbers allowed enter a race? IMRA is wholly a volunteer organization, it strikes me that at some point growth is not a good thing. Its fine to say races should be open to everyone, but dealing with the environmental impact of 300 runners (and nearly as many cars) in often remote and sensitive areas needs to be balanced too.

guapos · 23-01-2012, 09:57

Regarding the large numbers, pre registration on the imra site with the maximum decided by the race location would cut out this problem. Race fee could go up to 10e to cover the extra costs of setting up this feature on website.

Great race yesterday, you have to go off fast to avoid bottle necks, unfortunately i'm not that fast. Super stuff from the volunteers to get the registration done on time.

Peterx · 23-01-2012, 10:00

I think Mick made most of the points very well over on the IMRA forum.

Sign on closure times need to be inforced strictly.
The first race of the year and the first race of the summer Wednesdays need to be at least 35 minutes long for laptop input.
The first race needs to be based in a large hall or pub function room for easier registration.

Entries should be capped at 300?

donothoponpop · 23-01-2012, 10:15

Pre-reg, and Micks ideas, are great. It's about planning and enforcement now with the numbers. A far cry from a LC race hosted out of the boot of someone's car.

There's no way Annagh Hill could support anything over 200 (parking, trails, pub). A cut-off in numbers would have to be the same across the specific league, for scoring to be kept fair? I guess it could be argued "first-come, first-served" negates this, though.

earlyevening · 23-01-2012, 10:25

I don't get it. On one post appeals are sent out for new runners to show up and try out mountain running and then, a few posts later you're trying to stop them showing up.

What exactly is IMRA policy here?

**shotgunmcos** · 23-01-2012, 10:31

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Originally Posted by earlyevening

I don't get it. On one post appeals are sent out for new runners to show up and try out mountain running and then, a few posts later you're trying to stop them showing up.

What exactly is IMRA policy here?

Just a case of being careful what you wish for perhaps?

nerraw1111 · 23-01-2012, 10:34

Is it not the case that Howth was a great success? Sign in went smoothly, parking worked great, course was well marked and results were online that night.

Obviously 300 turning up at another race would be an issue in terms of parking etc.

I would be totally against a first come, first served basis. Doesn't take into account where people live/work etc.

Back to race. Great opener to the new season. Really enjoy that course, very fast.

It seems that this year's results were a lot faster than last year, any reason? Winning time last year was 24 mins, this year it looks like 8 people ran under 24 mins.

donothoponpop · 23-01-2012, 10:39

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Originally Posted by earlyevening

I don't get it. On one post appeals are sent out for new runners to show up and try out mountain running and then, a few posts later you're trying to stop them showing up.

What exactly is IMRA policy here?

Is this directed at my post?

As far as I know, IMRA policy leaves it up to the RD of each race to make a call on what a safe amount of runners is for that race. There's a number of criteria for that, such as car-pooling and parking facilities, and trail conservation. Any cut-off's or restrictions are pointed out beforehand on the IMRA forum, in good time.

earlyevening · 23-01-2012, 10:49

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Originally Posted by donothoponpop

Is this directed at my post?

As far as I know, IMRA policy leaves it up to the RD of each race to make a call on what a safe amount of runners is for that race. There's a number of criteria for that, such as car-pooling and parking facilities, and trail conservation. Any cut-off's or restrictions are pointed out beforehand on the IMRA forum, in good time.

Yes. It seems to me that mixed messages are being sent out.

It'll probably sort itself out anyway. The races close to Dublin will be popular. Annagh Hill and others that are miles away won't look so appealing to those who haven't experienced them.

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22-01-2012, 19:16	#20
Slogger Jogger Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: In the hills, Annacurra, Co. Wicklow. Posts: 4,769 Adverts \| Friends	Nice win by T-runner today in Howth. All that training is working.

23-01-2012, 09:46	#22
donothoponpop Closed Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,532 Adverts \| Friends	Almost 300 at Howth! What do people think about limits to the numbers allowed enter a race? IMRA is wholly a volunteer organization, it strikes me that at some point growth is not a good thing. Its fine to say races should be open to everyone, but dealing with the environmental impact of 300 runners (and nearly as many cars) in often remote and sensitive areas needs to be balanced too.

23-01-2012, 09:57	#23
guapos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 312 Adverts \| Friends	Regarding the large numbers, pre registration on the imra site with the maximum decided by the race location would cut out this problem. Race fee could go up to 10e to cover the extra costs of setting up this feature on website. Great race yesterday, you have to go off fast to avoid bottle necks, unfortunately i'm not that fast. Super stuff from the volunteers to get the registration done on time.

23-01-2012, 10:00	#24
Peterx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: dublin Posts: 885 Adverts \| Friends	I think Mick made most of the points very well over on the IMRA forum. Sign on closure times need to be inforced strictly. The first race of the year and the first race of the summer Wednesdays need to be at least 35 minutes long for laptop input. The first race needs to be based in a large hall or pub function room for easier registration. Entries should be capped at 300?

23-01-2012, 10:15	#25
donothoponpop Closed Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,532 Adverts \| Friends	Pre-reg, and Micks ideas, are great. It's about planning and enforcement now with the numbers. A far cry from a LC race hosted out of the boot of someone's car. There's no way Annagh Hill could support anything over 200 (parking, trails, pub). A cut-off in numbers would have to be the same across the specific league, for scoring to be kept fair? I guess it could be argued "first-come, first-served" negates this, though.

23-01-2012, 10:25	#26
earlyevening Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,138 Adverts \| Friends	I don't get it. On one post appeals are sent out for new runners to show up and try out mountain running and then, a few posts later you're trying to stop them showing up. What exactly is IMRA policy here?

23-01-2012, 10:34	#28
nerraw1111 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,140 Adverts \| Friends	Is it not the case that Howth was a great success? Sign in went smoothly, parking worked great, course was well marked and results were online that night. Obviously 300 turning up at another race would be an issue in terms of parking etc. I would be totally against a first come, first served basis. Doesn't take into account where people live/work etc. Back to race. Great opener to the new season. Really enjoy that course, very fast. It seems that this year's results were a lot faster than last year, any reason? Winning time last year was 24 mins, this year it looks like 8 people ran under 24 mins.