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02-02-2012, 11:23   #61
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Yes, I should have known you're resort to anti-Semitism.

OK, fine, give me a list of which newspapers you consider accurate. I'll make sure as far as possible that no Jews work for them.

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oceanclub, leave it you wont find such propganda in any other newpapers. Don't waste your time. If you insist then will provide

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02-02-2012, 11:26   #62
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oceanclub, leave it you wont find such propganda in any other newpapers. Don't waste your time. If you insist than i will provide
Ah brilliant, so there's absolutely no news resource you consider accurate. (Other than the Koran, I presume.)

BTW, can a moderator tell me if anti-Semitism breaches the posting guidelines?

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Ah brilliant, so there's absolutely no news resource you consider accurate. (Other than the Koran, I presume.)

BTW, can a moderator tell me if anti-Semitism breaches the posting guidelines?

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See, ocean club, If i tell you Bible is wrong or Corrupted, the words don't carry weight in my mouth. If a christian says Bible is corrupted then that thing carries weight. Same theory applies upon Newpaper.. You are telling stories from Jew boy's mouth against Palestine. who would believe those stories... think for a moment.

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hiya pancuronium
do you think that i lied, or i am liar, I spoke truth and truth is quite bitter to accept.. You can see movies of Muslim countries. Even those movies don't represent islam, but due to infulence islam in the region, movie makers hesitate to put sex scene in their movies.
The women doesn't represent Christianity and we believe Bible was once word of God. The teaching of Jesus was Islam and he was one of the messenger of God. If you see the reality, you will find most Christian women (including the women in the picture) don't, and many don't take other guideline of the Bible (against pre-marital sex, adultery, etc) literally either. However, there do seem to be a increasing no of Christian women out there who are committed to following the Bible as it is written. Below are some webpages

According to the Scriptures: Headcovering
Biblical Headcovering: The Scarf of Hidden Power
Christian Women's Headcovering Directory
Headcoverings and the Christian Woman
Is a Woman's Hair Her Only Covering?
Let Her Be Veiled
Modesty and Christian Living in the 90s
My Testimony Regarding the Headcovering
Nigerian Catholics told to be modest
No Such Custom?
On the Covering of Heads
She Maketh Herself Headcoverings
Should Christian Women Wear a Headcovering?
The Biblical Practice of Headcovering
The Christian Modesty
The Christian Veiling
The Headcoverings of Sisters
The Rites of Submission
The Significance of the Christian Woman's Veiling
The Veil
Women's Headcovering and the Glory of God
I don't call you a liar I say you’re WRONG in your statement and again I quote:

"You see this is cheating, she is cheating other people by making her look artificial.. This is shallowness... You can hire her for strip club... You can make her girlfriend... You can do whatever you want with.... Why??? because she doesn't know who is she...... She doesn't know what is status in her society... "

I certainly never said that this woman represents Christianity nor brought Christianity into the equation as again I have little knowledge of this subject, what I was saying in layman’s terms was YOUR WRONG IN YOUR THINKING AND YOUR WRONG IN YOUR BELIEFE OF IRISH / MUSLIM / EUROPEAN / WOMEN IN GENERAL.

Just because a woman does not agree with your opinion / belief / interpretation of Islam etc gives you zero rights to treat or speak of her in the way did above. This is Ireland and women have exactly the same rights as you do in this society it’s not “QUITE BITTER” as you state above but in truth FACT!

AND IN IRELAND THIS IS THE TRUTH AND YES IN THIS CONTEXT THE TRUTH IS QUITE BITTER DO YOU NOT AGREE?
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hiya ocean club...
your gave me link of "new york times" but you forget who owns new york news---The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, & the Washington Post.
...These three paper are in Jewish hands.. Suzberger family also owns, through the New York Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's and Family Circle..."
Now, you also know Israel Palestine crisis.. You think Jew boys will tell us truth about real situation in Palestine.. infact whole state of Isreal is illegal at that land... think for a moment... who knows jew boys are telling truth, who knows whether they planted these tapes or not... like i said, It's cultural issue, Afghan are straightforward when it comes to family ritual... The news in newyork time is nothing but jew boy propganda to legitimize their doing in public... it's old hyena tactics...

Above case is clear propaganda, even in the book of lies you will find truth...

Good question, right if that is case, then i don't use women to create sex scenes... The same sex scene which are corrupting the imagination of youth... Thinks for a moment, it's not me, its liberal mindset like you... Are you not aware of your media.... why are they banning hijab, the reason is simple because it makes women feel what they are, and liberal like you don't want women should feel what are they.... See, it's dangerous for their business if all women start wearing hijab and boycotting their product... They are using women in the name of freedom... To flourish their business, they have been corrupting the most beautiful element of life i.e, the women.. See, the irony in your own question....what you think is completely is reverse to real world..
So if these newspapers were owned by Muslims would they be equally as suspicious? Or is it because they are Jews?

I'm not sure if it's because English isn't your first language, or you are completely ignorant (and it could very well be this option, considering your stance on women), but the term 'Jew boy' is considered derogatory towards Jews.
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I don't call you a liar I say you’re WRONG in your statement and again I quote:

what I was saying in layman’s terms was YOUR WRONG IN YOUR THINKING AND YOUR WRONG IN YOUR BELIEFE OF IRISH / MUSLIM / EUROPEAN / WOMEN IN GENERAL. [/COLOR]

AND IN IRELAND THIS IS THE TRUTH AND YES IN THIS CONTEXT THE TRUTH IS QUITE BITTER DO YOU NOT AGREE?
hiya pancuronium.
then prove me wrong. i ain't attacking on characters of all European women... As i know five fingers aren't equal. I am saying, it is very easy to have girl friend in western countries. You can't date them etc. Why because they represent themselves in a cheated way... by displaying their parts and by artificially presenting them to others... Tell: if am and wrong. Mark hamil and all other of you have ignored my point... Why are sex scenes common in westren movies ..... The same scenes which are corrupting the natural scenes of society... Who watch these movies, your youth and what do you think what they learn from these movies and media.... and did i use the name Irish, i am talking about general western society.

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So if these newspapers were owned by Muslims would they be equally as suspicious? Or is it because they are Jews?

I'm not sure if it's because English isn't your first language, or you are completely ignorant (and it could very well be this option, considering your stance on women), but the term 'Jew boy' is considered derogatory towards Jews.
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It's native rivalry. You didn't get my point. Jew boys want Palestine and they are full of bias about Palestinian people. So why should i believe in them that they are telling truth. You said,"if these newspapers were owned by Muslims".... Did muslims own any illegal land as jews boys...

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See, ocean club, If i tell you Bible is wrong or Corrupted, the words don't carry weight in my mouth. If a christian says Bible is corrupted then that thing carries weight. Same theory applies upon Newpaper.. You are telling stories from Jew boy's mouth against Palestine. who would believe those stories... think for a moment.

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If your words wouldn't carry weight when you say that the bible is wrong or corrupted, then should your words carry any weight when you say that newspapers are wrong or corrupted.
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hiya pancuronium.
then prove me wrong. i ain't attacking on characters of all European women... As i know five fingers aren't equal. I am saying, it is very easy to have girl friend in western countries. You can't date them etc. Why because they represent themselves in a cheated way... by displaying their parts and by artificially presenting them to others...
Which is exactly the same case with the hijab. Head scarves are artificial. No girl comes from the womb with her head covered.
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Tell: if am and wrong. Mark hamil and all other of you have ignored my point... Why are sex scenes common in westren movies ..... The same scenes which are corrupting the natural scenes of society... Who watch these movies, your youth and what do you think what they learn from these movies and media.... and did i use the name Irish, i am talking about general western society.
Firstly, films with sex scenes are not allowed to be sold to youths, that what the age rating is for. Secondly, sex happens in real life, so why should we pretend that it doesn't in our movies? Sex is not some dirty act that should never be spoken of in public, and for some of people, its even that private of an act. Lastly, youths dont need help being corrupted in this way, their god given puberty does that for them.
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It's native rivalry. You didn't get my point. Jew boys want Palestine and they are full of bias about Palestinian people. So why should i believe in them that they are telling truth. You said,"if these newspapers were owned by Muslims".... Did muslims own any illegal land as jews boys...
Constantly using the phrase "jew boys" just makes you look full of bias and makes me question why we should believe anything you say. Even assuming that article is biased, do you really believe that there aren't muslims out their who have somehow convinced themselves that their honour killings are somehow justified by muslim teaching?
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Any more use of the term "jew boys" will result in a weeks vacation. Please remember the charter when posting. Thanks.
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hiya hobbes,
What charter says, if someone uses propaganda against Islam, i mean i ain't good with English, could you please remind me in few lines, I wouldn't forget this.
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It says you use the report post function if someone is breaking the charter. It also says not to discuss the charter on threads as it derails the thread. End of this line of discussion here, thanks.
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hiya meglome, it's interesting to see that you have no desire to insult me yet you mentioned it, Do you think i am insulting you, Is truth insulting to you. Am i not speaking truth. Do women in your society not look sex dolls. Ask to yourself, what your youth is doing in colleges and universities. Who is brainwashing them against status of Women. Is that Dead one.
I wanted to be direct but not insult you. You do offend me a bit with your sweeping generalisations and I suppose that you fail to understand that they are sweeping generalisations. I have no issue with truth should I hear it. Some women in this society do look like sex dolls... some. That's a price of a free society. I'd still rather that to a society where many people have to pretend to be something they are not. Or worse are not permitted freedom as they happen not to be men.

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Five finger aren't equal. People aren't the same all over the world, when you say people are same you are saying five finger are equal which isn't true.
Well I can only tell you what I experienced myself first hand. Environments change but people are the same. Sure they may not look the same but they are the same otherwise. A little read about DNA would confirm that for you.

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I ain't saying muslim countries are better than western countries. Majority of these countries are inspired by western culture. Due to western invasion into these countries, these countries have lost their true islamic culture. A culture which preserves rights of Woman. Take example of saudia, saudis are ruled by dictators, there is dictatorship in saudia, that's why what they implement in their country, has got nothing to do with Islam. Islam is quran and the way given by Prophet Muhammad. A person who is muslim and not following Islam. He doesn't represent Islam at all.
The western world learned an awful lot from Islamic cultures. Should I now believe we have lost our 'true' culture? Cultures have evolved since the beginning of time. The ones which haven't have failed.
Many Islamic countries could be described as authoritarian.

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"The Noble Qur'an - Al-Ahzab 33:59

O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils)* all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

*the arabic word here is Jalabeeb (plural of Jalbaab), which is the loose outer garment that covers all a woman's body. It says here to use the Jalabeeb to cover all, and scholars say this means to use it to cover her head (agree upon by all scholars) and her face (agreed by many scholars, not all) and one or both eyes, in order for it to be known that she is a free woman and so not to be exposed to any harm."
So does it say when or how often they have to draw their cloaks?
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If your words wouldn't carry weight when you say that the bible is wrong or corrupted, then should your words carry any weight when you say that newspapers are wrong or corrupted.
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You didn't understand, I ain't saying anyone to believe in my words. See, Oceanclub wants me to believe in something, and i said, why would i believe? Now understand that quote in this context.
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Which is exactly the same case with the hijab. Head scarves are artificial. No girl comes from the womb with her head covered.
then you didn't answer i am asking again. Is it moral to wear dress or cloth. Where does this idea of covering parts came from. why is it shame to be naked in public.
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Firstly, films with sex scenes are not allowed to be sold to youths, that what the age rating is for. Secondly, sex happens in real life, so why should we pretend that it doesn't in our movies? Sex is not some dirty act that should never be spoken of in public, and for some of people, its even that private of an act. Lastly, youths dont need help being corrupted in this way, their god given puberty does that for them.
you must be kidding. It's business, business is to profit, not to morals. I mean in business it's profit which matters. Who knows these business men follow morals, on the other hand, they don't follow moral in making of these movies. Who said sex is dirty. Sex is dirty when it is uncontrollable.
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Constantly using the phrase "jew boys" just makes you look full of bias and makes me question why we should believe anything you say. Even assuming that article is biased, do you really believe that there aren't muslims out their who have somehow convinced themselves that their honour killings are somehow justified by muslim teaching?
Yes i am full of bias against those who are full of bias against muslims. Honor killing is cultural issue, I have already given you example of Afghanistan.

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I wanted to be direct but not insult you. You do offend me a bit with your sweeping generalisations and I suppose that you fail to understand that they are sweeping generalisations. I have no issue with truth should I hear it. Some women in this society do look like sex dolls... some. That's a price of a free society. I'd still rather that to a society where many people have to pretend to be something they are not. Or worse are not permitted freedom as they happen not to be men.
The price of a free society in the name of freedom of woman. If it is then what is this hyena tactic. I mean, western societies /business men use a trap "Freedom of women" to slave womankind. Is that free society. It is same as Mice actually do like cheese, that often works on traps... Women like freedom and let us put the freedom on trap to enslave womankind.
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Well I can only tell you what I experienced myself first hand. Environments change but people are the same. Sure they may not look the same but they are the same otherwise. A little read about DNA would confirm that for you.
But evolution says, our ancestors were monkey once. Is evolution wrong
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So does it say when or how often they have to draw their cloaks?
So what? Is it wrong

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I mean, western societies /business men use a trap "Freedom of women" to slave womankind... It is same as Mice actually do like cheese, that often works on traps...
Awesome; I'm getting that put on a t-shirt for the missus.

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