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16-02-2012, 01:03   #7591
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Is it wrong that Im genuinely excited about this Europa League tie? Gonna be weird to see them kick off at 6pm, I'll just be finished work!
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16-02-2012, 01:04   #7592
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Whats the break down on that?

Id assume Rooney has more with the penalties but would have thought it would be kinda close other than that??
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...pa-league.aspx

United's record in all competitions this season when Rooney and Welbeck have started together:

P W D L GF GA
15 13 1 1 43 19

Rooney: 15 goals in 15 games
Welbeck: 6 goals in 15 games
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16-02-2012, 01:05   #7593
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http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...pa-league.aspx

United's record in all competitions this season when Rooney and Welbeck have started together:

P W D L GF GA
15 13 1 1 43 19

Rooney: 15 goals in 15 games
Welbeck: 6 goals in 15 games

Jesus! Genuinely surprised Rooney is that far ahead I cant put that down to the 3 or 4 penalties so

Good indication of why they are the first choice strike partnership of course
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As an Arsenal fan this post depresses me. It wasnt that long ago that we were challenging yas for honours year in year out and this wouldnt even be discussed. Obviously Id never see us selling a player to Man Utd as I think City, Barcelona or Real Madrid would be more likely destinations, but it just goes to show that Man Utd probably dont see Arsenal as a threat anymore.
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Unfortunately from your point of view mate, you arent a threat at the moment.

I think thats a shame as some of the best title battle United have had have been against Arsenal.
I have seen Arsenal and more to the point Wenger as a fading force. He seems so tired and aloof. He no longer seems to even notice players who are just phoning it on for him. I'll echo Kryogen in saying the Arsenal title tussles were epic from a United perspective.

Wenger doesn't even have the air of a man who wants to right a few wrongs. When you see Ferguson being pally with your manager you know your club is ****ed.
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16-02-2012, 01:14   #7595
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fúck it, I'll admit it

I enjoy seeing Arsenal getting hopped off.

I don't like Ray Parlours face.

Eddie McGoldrick, sound fella!

Henry, well you know.

Vieira, you know also.

My 70yr old Dad got a few "ould paddy fúck off" comments last season in OT....obviously not all Arsenal fans are like that but still . Was fuming that day. Nice one Ji for popping up with the winner.

oh and the new entry on the list thats driving twitter into a bigger pile of poo then it was already in, Mr Piers Morgan.

8-2..............................loved it.
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16-02-2012, 01:19   #7596
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fúck it, I'll admit it

I enjoy seeing Arsenal getting hopped off.

I don't like Ray Parlours face.

Eddie McGoldrick, sound fella!

Henry, well you know.

Vieira, you know also.

My 70yr old Dad got a few "ould paddy fúck off" comments last season in OT....obviously not all Arsenal fans are like that but still . Was fuming that day. Nice one Ji for popping up with the winner.

oh and the new entry on the list thats driving twitter into a bigger pile of poo then it was already in, Mr Piers Morgan.

8-2..............................loved it.
A lot of my friends are Gunners and are all for the most part moderate and magnanimous, I used to enjoy the Arsenal United games with them. It was cordial despite the fierce rivalry on the field. Also loved the Keane - Viera dynamic. Dreamt of a midfield with those two side by side in it. I never had the blind ignorant obsessiveness of ********* with any of the Arsenal boys.

It's all subjective though, your father's experience would colour any opinion in fairness.
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It's all subjective though, your father's experience would colour any opinion in fairness.
Very true. I had a small disliking for them up until that day. It multiplied rather quickly. My season tickets were right next to the away fans and in the games I went to last season that was the only one I witnessed that kind of crap.

You're spot on though, personal experiences can make up your opinion rather easily.
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I have seen Arsenal and more to the point Wenger as a fading force. He seems so tired and aloof. He no longer seems to even notice players who are just phoning it on for him. I'll echo Kryogen in saying the Arsenal title tussles were epic from a United perspective.

Wenger doesn't even have the air of a man who wants to right a few wrongs. When you see Ferguson being pally with your manager you know your club is ****ed.
Yeah you definitely have that right. Ferguson has even defended Wengers position in the recent past at interviews. No way in hell was that the case 8 years ago or so.
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Is it wrong that Im genuinely excited about this Europa League tie? Gonna be weird to see them kick off at 6pm, I'll just be finished work!
I sure am, strong enough side tomorrow hopefully, especially since we've no games till next Thursday, get a decent lead for the home leg. Get Cleverly back in with 20-30 minutes. Might see Pogba get some time as well.

Looking forward to seeing Eriksen as well.
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V. Ajax

--------------------de Gea---------------------
Rafael------Ferdinand--------Evans----------Fabio
Valencia-------Carrick------Cleverley--------Young
-------------------Rooney----------------------
------------------Hernandez--------------------

If Jones and Smalling are fit enough to start, I'd play them both at CB, Jones needs the experience there. Good opportunity to give Hernandez a start and Young + Cleverley more game time after injury. Bring Nani on for the last half an hour.


Looking forward to the game, Europa league is definitely better than no European football at all - I'd hate it if we didn't have any game this week!
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Think Fergie has said Rio is captaining the side
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9084721/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-has-backed-Ryan-Giggs-to-become-Manchester-Uniteds-next-manager.html

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Sir Alex Ferguson has backed Ryan Giggs to become Manchester United's next manager

Sir Alex Ferguson has tipped Ryan Giggs to succeed him as manager of Manchester United when he finally decides to step down from a post he has occupied for more than 20 years.

Ferguson is understood to believe that despite his lack of experience Giggs has many of the qualities required to take on the most demanding club job in English football. He praised the former Welsh international’s attributes among fellow managers and at a recent private function attended by leading business figures.

Ferguson’s advocacy of his most loyal and long-standing player as his successor may come as a surprise given Giggs’s lack of experience and apparent commitment to continue playing.

Last week Giggs signed a one-year extension to his contract at Manchester United, which will see him playing until he is at least 39.
There is also a huge field of experienced managers who would leap at the chance to succeed Ferguson when his reign finally comes to an end, with Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola, David Moyes and Martin O’Neill among those who would love be considered for the post.

Other former players, including Ole Gunnar Solskjaer who won the Norwegian league in his first year in charge of Molde last October, would also appear to be ahead of Giggs in most lists for the job.

With the Glazer family likely to have their pick of the leading coaches in the world to take on the daunting job of succeeding Ferguson, Giggs remains an outside candidate – the Betfair betting exchange makes him 80-1 for the job with 15 more experienced candidates ahead of him in the betting – but Ferguson’s support would weigh heavily in his favour.

Team-mate Paul Scholes also believes Giggs could take over from Ferguson. The midfielder told FourFourTwo magazine: “People have talked about Mourinho. It can change quickly ... it’s about who is successful at the time. Whether they are British or foreign, you just want the best man for the job. I could see Ryan Giggs becoming manager.”

Giggs is understood to be pursuing his coaching badges, and is said by Ferguson to have the temperament and personality to cope with management despite his diffident public persona. He also has as keen an appreciation as any current or former player of the legacy the next manager will inherit at Old Trafford, as well as the methods that have made Ferguson so successful.
Ferguson’s support may give an indication of his thoughts on his retirement date. With Giggs committed to playing on for at least one more season it indicates that Ferguson will continue for at least one more year. Earlier this season he indicated he would do three more seasons, health allowing.
This week Giggs says he remains committed to playing for United, and will notch up his 900th senior appearance for the club if he features in the Europa League tie against Ajax on Thursday night in Amsterdam.

He is open to the possibility of management however and was tipped to replace Gary Speed as manager of Wales. He told The Daily Telegraph this week that while the Wales job came to soon, he has considered management, which he believes is far harder than playing.

“Everyone who has played and managed would say that playing is much, much easier. Players come in to train at nine o’clock and they are at home by at half twelve. Managers spend their time worrying about the team, so it is a completely different job and situation,” he said. “Succeeding Gary [Speed] was never really an option for me though. I spoke to the gaffer and United were ready to offer me a new deal. I wanted to play on.”

Of retirement he said: “It is just a decision I will have to take my time with because I feel different after each game.”
Giggs has won 12 Premier League titles, two European Cups, four League Cups and four FA Cups in his time at Old Trafford.

Cynics might argue that Ferguson’s support for Giggs indicates he intends to remain directly involved at United, and would prefer to see the club led by a familiar figure at the helm, rather than an established manager from outside the United environment who might be minded to break the link with the Ferguson era.
I wouldn't be totally against it tbh, but I would like him to manage our reserves for a season or two before hand. It would be ideal to have someone like Giggs to take the club on. As said in the article, Ferguson's method's must be ingrained into him at this stage.
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Sir Alex Ferguson has backed Ryan Giggs to become Manchester United's next manager There are no actual quotes from Fergie but it's interesting enough all the same in a way.

I can see Giggs going into management but I highly, highly doubt he'll be the next manager of United. Maybe some years down the line.

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Ferguson is understood to believe that despite his lack of experience Giggs has many of the qualities required to take on the most demanding club job in English football. He praised the former Welsh international’s attributes among fellow managers and at a recent private function attended by leading business figures.

Ferguson’s advocacy of his most loyal and long-standing player as his successor may come as a surprise given Giggs’s lack of experience and apparent commitment to continue playing.

Last week Giggs signed a one-year extension to his contract at Manchester United, which will see him playing until he is at least 39.

There is also a huge field of experienced managers who would leap at the chance to succeed Ferguson when his reign finally comes to an end, with Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola, David Moyes and Martin O’Neill among those who would love be considered for the post.

Other former players, including Ole Gunnar Solskjaer who won the Norwegian league in his first year in charge of Molde last October, would also appear to be ahead of Giggs in most lists for the job.

With the Glazer family likely to have their pick of the leading coaches in the world to take on the daunting job of succeeding Ferguson, Giggs remains an outside candidate – the Betfair betting exchange makes him 80-1 for the job with 15 more experienced candidates ahead of him in the betting – but Ferguson’s support would weigh heavily in his favour.

Team-mate Paul Scholes also believes Giggs could take over from Ferguson. The midfielder told FourFourTwo magazine: “People have talked about Mourinho. It can change quickly ... it’s about who is successful at the time. Whether they are British or foreign, you just want the best man for the job. I could see Ryan Giggs becoming manager.”

Giggs is understood to be pursuing his coaching badges, and is said by Ferguson to have the temperament and personality to cope with management despite his diffident public persona. He also has as keen an appreciation as any current or former player of the legacy the next manager will inherit at Old Trafford, as well as the methods that have made Ferguson so successful.

Ferguson’s support may give an indication of his thoughts on his retirement date. With Giggs committed to playing on for at least one more season it indicates that Ferguson will continue for at least one more year. Earlier this season he indicated he would do three more seasons, health allowing.

This week Giggs says he remains committed to playing for United, and will notch up his 900th senior appearance for the club if he features in the Europa League tie against Ajax on Thursday night in Amsterdam.

He is open to the possibility of management however and was tipped to replace Gary Speed as manager of Wales. He told The Daily Telegraph this week that while the Wales job came to soon, he has considered management, which he believes is far harder than playing.

“Everyone who has played and managed would say that playing is much, much easier. Players come in to train at nine o’clock and they are at home by at half twelve. Managers spend their time worrying about the team, so it is a completely different job and situation,” he said.

“Succeeding Gary [Speed] was never really an option for me though. I spoke to the gaffer and United were ready to offer me a new deal. I wanted to play on.”

Of retirement he said: “It is just a decision I will have to take my time with because I feel different after each game.”

Giggs has won 12 Premier League titles, two European Cups, four League Cups and four FA Cups in his time at Old Trafford.

Cynics might argue that Ferguson’s support for Giggs indicates he intends to remain directly involved at United, and would prefer to see the club led by a familiar figure at the helm, rather than an established manager from outside the United environment who might be minded to break the link with the Ferguson era.
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So how high was Blatter on your list Jimmy?!
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So how high was Blatter on your list Jimmy?!
Number 9

I actually would have had it earlier than him only I spent precious time editing it. I think my post was a bit neater. The link looks very untidy in Blatter's if you ask me ha.
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