[Mr.S]

Originally Posted by Mushy

I think this is only a different thing, so then they can bring back Oxegen, claim its bigger and better, and it'll sell out fairly easily if so.

They can claim all they want, if the lineups **** and the ticket prices are the same, it won't sell out. People aren't going to fork out 250quid for a few bands anymore

The 6 gigs are obviously a safer bet, profit wise, then oxegen, just wondering if mcd will "play it safe" for a few years cus of the ~economy~

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Mickolution

Of corse it's possible. They used to do it with Marley Park all the time. They'd move the stalls at the back forward if there was a smaller crowd at a show.

They can do that within the perimeter fence of the site if they want to but the maximum capacity can't be increased to more than 45,500 plus 2,500 stewards and guests. The stage won't be changing either.

[Bowies in Space]

I'm thinking Foo Fighters with support from Tenacious D - with the Foos doing Reading and Leeds, I've new hope for some more summer gigs after their Asian dates. Also, The D are in London and Glasgow in June (in support of their new album), so hopefully they'll be able to pop across for a show in July! Besides, they were both touring Australia together last year - it'd be a mighty show!!

[karaokeman]

Originally Posted by Mr.S

I'm starting to think this will be the death of oxegen.

6 sell out gigs at €60 each for 270,000 customers would make MCD more money then oxegen, when you factor in the huge costs of oxegen.

I could see a new festival being set up in Punchestown or Fairy House.

I doubt there will be a new Oxegen, mostly because of the name and the fact that name might be a turn-off for people.

It would make more sense if it was re-branded. I just hope this time there will be less stages (maybe 3 at max).

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by karaokeman

I could see a new festival being set up in Punchestown or Fairy House.

I doubt there will be a new Oxegen, mostly because of the name and the fact that name might be a turn-off for people.

It would make more sense if it was re-branded. I just hope this time there will be less stages (maybe 3 at max).

It's not the name it's the economics.

If the economic situation was better they'ed be mad not to use the value of the brand name Oxegen. Can't see how the name is a turn off. Even with all the people on here whinging it was still able to pack them in.

[karaokeman]

Originally Posted by BrianD

It's not the name it's the economics.

If the economic situation was better they'ed be mad not to use the value of the brand name Oxegen. Can't see how the name is a turn off. Even with all the people on here whinging it was still able to pack them in.

To me its the fact that Oxegen has brought in so many new mainstream acts and that its been associated with knackers.

The total attendance for Oxegen last year was like 40,000 on friday and saturday and 70,000 on the sunday. Its a far cry from the days in 2004-5 when they used to sell out the 80,000 tickets for the weekend.

Having said that it might return as Oxegen, maybe if they can keep ticket prices at a minimum and reduce the scale to 2-3 stages and get rid of all those kiddy funfair amusements.

[Marty McFly]

Originally Posted by karaokeman

To me its the fact that Oxegen has brought in so many new mainstream acts and that its been associated with knackers.

The total attendance for Oxegen last year was like 40,000 on friday and saturday and 70,000 on the sunday. Its a far cry from the days in 2004-5 when they used to sell out the 80,000 tickets for the weekend.

Having said that it might return as Oxegen, maybe if they can keep ticket prices at a minimum and reduce the scale to 2-3 stages and get rid of all those kiddy funfair amusements.

Your being a bit harsh there I'd say oxegen always had its rough element at it, but by and large it passed off without incident, I wouldn't go to oxegen anymore but only due to the fact I don't think I could hack the pace anymore the only reason oxegen didn't sell out last year was due to the economy and nothing else you can be sure if people had the money it would have sold out in no time at all.

And hey call me crazy but I never knew rollercoasters etc were just for kids.

[Furious-Red]

I do agree that a return with Oxegen as a smaller festival eg 3 stages and go form there . Reduce price and attendance .

If you look at Sonisphere the 1st year they only had 3 stages (not sure if they had the Red Bull or Jager stage that year) . Attendance is 60,000 .

I think if they start at say 50,000 with 3 stages , decent price it will do well

[nm]

Is it just me or are you all basing this on absolutely nothing?

Oxegen is gone, not scaled down or paused, dead and buried - good riddance.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by nm

Is it just me or are you all basing this on absolutely nothing?

Oxegen is gone, not scaled down or paused, dead and buried - good riddance.

I would agree that it will may well never be seen again but I certainly wouldn't say good riddance. A great festival over the years that tens of thousands enjoyed.

We need a multi-stage festival and I'm not convinced that there's a middle ground. You either go boutique or go the other end of the scale.

[Furious-Red]

Originally Posted by BrianD

I would agree that it will may well never be seen again but I certainly wouldn't say good riddance. A great festival over the years that tens of thousands enjoyed.

We need a multi-stage festival and I'm not convinced that there's a middle ground. You either go boutique or go the other end of the scale.

Agreed , ive went every year since 2006 and always had a great time . Exactly there will always be a market for a multi-stage festival and its just unfortunate that the recession has taken its toll on it . Oxegen was basically a Celtic Tiger thing , prices kept going up and people kept paying , until they lost jobs etc and could'nt afford tickets anymore

[LisaC251]

Originally Posted by Furious-Red

Agreed , ive went every year since 2006 and always had a great time . Exactly there will always be a market for a multi-stage festival and its just unfortunate that the recession has taken its toll on it . Oxegen was basically a Celtic Tiger thing , prices kept going up and people kept paying , until they lost jobs etc and could'nt afford tickets anymore

The line up was predominately youth based as well, which given its a summer festival must have suffered since a large proportion of the under 25's are now in Australia/ New Zealand etc.

Its a changing scene really. I like the concept of the 6 gigs in the park but I think a Belsonic style event would have worked better and been more economical for music fans to attend.

As for three/four stage festivals, definitely a place in Ireland for them, however, consumers want more from events now, and appreciate a higher calibre of musicians and facilities.

[Mickolution]

Originally Posted by Furious-Red

Agreed , ive went every year since 2006 and always had a great time . Exactly there will always be a market for a multi-stage festival and its just unfortunate that the recession has taken its toll on it . Oxegen was basically a Celtic Tiger thing , prices kept going up and people kept paying , until they lost jobs etc and could'nt afford tickets anymore

I wouldn't agree with this at all. Sure, there is less money in the country, but people are willing to pay a lot for gigs. Look at how well the Park shows have sold, or Watch The Throne. Electric Picnic will sell well despite it's poor line-up and extortionate prices.

People weren't going to Oxegen because it had gotten a terrible reputation. There may be a tie-in with money in so much as it attracted a younger crowd, but that was as much down to the fact that most older people had been and knew better.

[EyesClosed]

Originally Posted by Mickolution

I wouldn't agree with this at all. Sure, there is less money in the country, but people are willing to pay a lot for gigs. Look at how well the Park shows have sold, or Watch The Throne. Electric Picnic will sell well despite it's poor line-up and extortionate prices.

People weren't going to Oxegen because it had gotten a terrible reputation. There may be a tie-in with money in so much as it attracted a younger crowd, but that was as much down to the fact that most older people had been and knew better.

Last year I was at Oxegen and had a great time, a couple of months later I went to Lollapalooza. It was fantastic, much better atmosphere. So now I would rather spend the money on going to festivals in other countries. A festival outside Ireland would now be my first choice and Oxegen would then be a second if I had the money at the time.

[seanbmc]

Is Swedish House Mafia sold out?