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Da Shins Kelly · 18-12-2011, 23:13

What do people think of her?

Apparently some people are calling shenanigans on her authenticity - her old music before her new album has disappeared from the internet, she claimed to have been raised on a trailer park, but her father is actually a multi-millionaire, supposedly she's had plastic surgery, and people are claiming her look and musical style have been moulded by record execs and managers (she freely admits that her name was changed by managers and lawyers). Basically, some people don't believe that she's anything more than a product.

I'm not sure how true any of the above is, or if it even matters. The songs are good, whether they're genuinely hers or not. Also, it's pop music. Lady Gaga is the biggest faker in the industry, but she's still a good pop star. I'm not sure how important authenticity is in pop music.

I've only heard a few of her songs so far, but I think she's got some good stuff. I think she'll be quite big, regardless.

Has anyone seen her live? Is she any good on that front?

**lordgoat** · 18-12-2011, 23:19

old news tbh, it was a great gimmick by her and fair play she used it to her advantage. Also as you said it's pop music so i might move it over to gen music, i'll see what jeff says.

**Miguel_Sanchez** · 18-12-2011, 23:33

The single is great. I know nothing more about her.

Happy to leave it here though.

Da Shins Kelly · 18-12-2011, 23:36

Move it over if yiz want lads! I forgot about the general music place when I posted it, so if ye think it's better suited there, then go ahead.

**lordgoat** · 18-12-2011, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Shins Kelly

Move it over if yiz want lads! I forgot about the general music place when I posted it, so if ye think it's better suited there, then go ahead.

i'll leave it here for a few days and move it over then, you should get the most coverage that way.

Only really like video games, don't think much of the other singles.

**lordgoat** · 19-12-2011, 18:57

http://pitchfork.com/news/44938-lana...ay-night-live/

SNL coming up

stateofflux · 19-12-2011, 21:04

Really like 'born to die' single...very good tune

**johnny_ultimate** · 20-12-2011, 12:01

Video Games is a pretty hypnotic song, but the whole background narrative makes it hard to know what to think of the whole situation. Hopefully her album will be noteworthy for content rather than hype and controversy.

nommm · 21-12-2011, 02:10

Love her, there's no denying she's going to be huge this year. I don't have a problem with the Lizzie Grant business, the music on that album just sounds like a less developed version of the music she is making now imo. Her videos were pretty much the same style. I don't doubt that she had to undergo some 'rebranding' to find popularity. Don't most artists?

pappyodaniel · 21-12-2011, 03:43

Looks to me like she was invented in a lab. The look, the music, the videos and the songwriting are trying too hard to appeal to everyone...the pop and the indie crowd. I can see right through it, it's a manifactured act but I have to say it's a very good product.

The Liquidator · 21-12-2011, 03:54

Not bothered at all about any of this background shite...The girl has tunes and could be massive from next year onwards.

pappyodaniel · 21-12-2011, 04:15

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Originally Posted by The Liquidator

Not bothered at all about any of this background shite...The girl has tunes and could be massive from next year onwards.

True.

She never denied anything about life or her past, sure hasn't all the best had a helping hand.

**Seren_** · 22-12-2011, 14:02

Really like all the songs I've listened to by her I must say, and very much looking forward to seeing what the album will be like.

Personally, I couldn't care less about her background and her invented image. There's loads of bands/artists who have had similar influence from management and record companies, and that's not even thinking about pop stars like Gaga and so on, Stiff Little Fingers and The Sex Pistols being two notable examples.

Jordo141 · 29-12-2011, 02:39

Hate to be a spoil sport... But I can't stand her...

Singles are pretty boring IMO... Video Games is one of the mopiest, dreary songs I've heard in years... One of the few songs I actually have to change the radio station over...

Her image seems VERY manufactured too... Seems like a discount Amy Winehoue (whose music I'm not a fan of either). The rumors about her family, surgery don't help my opinion.

Oasis_Dublin · 29-12-2011, 14:03

That Video Games song absolutely wrecks my head.

Apparently she has the false past of Viva Brother as well.

18-12-2011, 23:13	#1
Da Shins Kelly Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spain Posts: 4,392 Adverts \| Friends	Lana Del Rey What do people think of her? Apparently some people are calling shenanigans on her authenticity - her old music before her new album has disappeared from the internet, she claimed to have been raised on a trailer park, but her father is actually a multi-millionaire, supposedly she's had plastic surgery, and people are claiming her look and musical style have been moulded by record execs and managers (she freely admits that her name was changed by managers and lawyers). Basically, some people don't believe that she's anything more than a product. I'm not sure how true any of the above is, or if it even matters. The songs are good, whether they're genuinely hers or not. Also, it's pop music. Lady Gaga is the biggest faker in the industry, but she's still a good pop star. I'm not sure how important authenticity is in pop music. I've only heard a few of her songs so far, but I think she's got some good stuff. I think she'll be quite big, regardless. Has anyone seen her live? Is she any good on that front?

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18-12-2011, 23:19	#2
lordgoat Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kildare/Dublin Posts: 9,017 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Alternative & Indie, Gigs & Events	old news tbh, it was a great gimmick by her and fair play she used it to her advantage. Also as you said it's pop music so i might move it over to gen music, i'll see what jeff says.

18-12-2011, 23:33	#3
Miguel_Sanchez Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Dublin Posts: 6,322 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Music Reviews	The single is great. I know nothing more about her. Happy to leave it here though.

18-12-2011, 23:36	#4
Da Shins Kelly Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spain Posts: 4,392 Adverts \| Friends	Move it over if yiz want lads! I forgot about the general music place when I posted it, so if ye think it's better suited there, then go ahead.

19-12-2011, 18:57	#6
lordgoat Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kildare/Dublin Posts: 9,017 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Alternative & Indie, Gigs & Events	http://pitchfork.com/news/44938-lana...ay-night-live/ SNL coming up

19-12-2011, 21:04	#7
stateofflux Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 895 Adverts \| Friends	Really like 'born to die' single...very good tune

20-12-2011, 12:01	#8
johnny_ultimate Production Model EVA-02 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: It's the killer. Do not die. Posts: 16,158 Adverts \| Friends Mod: PlayStation, Films	Video Games is a pretty hypnotic song, but the whole background narrative makes it hard to know what to think of the whole situation. Hopefully her album will be noteworthy for content rather than hype and controversy.

21-12-2011, 02:10	#9
nommm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 581 Adverts \| Friends	Love her, there's no denying she's going to be huge this year. I don't have a problem with the Lizzie Grant business, the music on that album just sounds like a less developed version of the music she is making now imo. Her videos were pretty much the same style. I don't doubt that she had to undergo some 'rebranding' to find popularity. Don't most artists?

21-12-2011, 03:43	#10
pappyodaniel Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: wherever i lay my phone Posts: 3,819 Adverts \| Friends	Looks to me like she was invented in a lab. The look, the music, the videos and the songwriting are trying too hard to appeal to everyone...the pop and the indie crowd. I can see right through it, it's a manifactured act but I have to say it's a very good product.

21-12-2011, 03:54	#11
The Liquidator Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Waterford Posts: 53 Adverts \| Friends	Not bothered at all about any of this background shite...The girl has tunes and could be massive from next year onwards.

22-12-2011, 14:02	#13
Seren_ Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Study Room F Posts: 4,322 Adverts \| Friends Mod: NUI Maynooth	Really like all the songs I've listened to by her I must say, and very much looking forward to seeing what the album will be like. Personally, I couldn't care less about her background and her invented image. There's loads of bands/artists who have had similar influence from management and record companies, and that's not even thinking about pop stars like Gaga and so on, Stiff Little Fingers and The Sex Pistols being two notable examples.

29-12-2011, 02:39	#14
Jordo141 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 59 Adverts \| Friends	Hate to be a spoil sport... But I can't stand her... Singles are pretty boring IMO... Video Games is one of the mopiest, dreary songs I've heard in years... One of the few songs I actually have to change the radio station over... Her image seems VERY manufactured too... Seems like a discount Amy Winehoue (whose music I'm not a fan of either). The rumors about her family, surgery don't help my opinion.

29-12-2011, 14:03	#15
Oasis_Dublin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,908 Adverts \| Friends	That Video Games song absolutely wrecks my head. Apparently she has the false past of Viva Brother as well.