[dvpower]

Originally Posted by mikom

One lad said he wants to be the first jailed on the issue, so that he can write a book on the subject.

He might be entitled to artist's exemption on that.

[Teyla Emmagan]

Originally Posted by mikom

One lad said he wants to be the first jailed on the issue, so that he can write a book on the subject.

Well, it's great to know that his decision not to pay this charge is being made for all the right reasons then.

Doesn't sound like a very interesting book either.

[mikom]

Originally Posted by Teyla Emmagan

Well, it's great to know that his decision not to pay this charge is being made for all the right reasons then.

Doesn't sound like a very interesting book either.

Well he'll be able to take an tax-payer funded open university course on creative writing from the comfort of his household tax free cell, so I reckon it will be quite an interesting read.

This course takes a student-centred approach to creative writing, offering a range of strategies to help you develop as a writer. The emphasis is highly practical, with exercises and activities designed to ignite and sustain the writing impulse. The five-part course starts by showing ways of using your memory and experience and building a daily discipline. This is followed by demonstration and practice of the three most popular forms – writing fiction, writing poetry, and life writing (biography and autobiography). The concluding part aims to demystify the world of agents and publishers, teaching you how to revise and present your work to a professional standard.

http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergr...ourse/a215.htm

[goz83]

Originally Posted by dvpower

No, he isn't.
This isn't personal correspondence from Phil Hogan. This is being issued by either the Department or by local authorities. That's where it should be returned to. If people want to make a protest to the Minister, they should write to his official address, not his personal home address.

Yes, he is. His department is taking orders from him. Hopefully if enough people send the leaflets to his home address, he might start to realise how many are really p****d off with him. Any other junk should be sent to Kenny. He won't be getting my support anymore the spineless, two-faced so and so.

[dvpower]

Originally Posted by goz83

He won't be getting my support anymore the spineless, two-faced so and so.

Ye don't say.

[OldNotWIse]

Originally Posted by Ghandee

I dont get this response?

Its €8.33 a month too fcuking much!!!

Were being charged a tax to live in a poxy house that (not through ordinary Joe Soaps fault) is worth prob half of what it was when we bought it, due to the completely wreckless behaviour of corrupt politicians and greedy bankers.

This charge is for us to pay back the BILLIONS squandered by them, robbed by them, and mismanaged by them FFS!

It doesnt matter two fiddlers farts the amount, its just the fact that we have to pay it in the first place!

Oh yeah, its 100 this year (TO BEGIN WITH) what will it be next year if we let them away with slipping it under the door this year?

Civil disobedience is the way forward, lets all stand together, tell FG and the greedy bankers to go fcuk themselves!

Typical response from the 'ah sure it'll be grand brigade'!

Fcuk em, Fcuk the lot of them!

Why did you think it was worth paying X amount for it then and not now? Has the house become smaller or been magically re-located to a less expensive area? Seriously I dont get why people are so worked up about their houses decreasing in value. If you were willing to pay half a million quid a few years ago you obviously believed the house was worth said amount?

[goz83]

Originally Posted by dvpower

Ye don't say.

As always. A very productive comment with lots of vital information. Having a quick look back over the posts, I am thinking you perhaps need a hobbie. One perhaps that doesn't involve petty attempts of criticism. Or, you could get a job. I suspect that's another thread for you support your bum buddies in the Dail.

[dvpower]

Originally Posted by goz83

As always. A very productive comment with lots of vital information.

I'm listening...

Originally Posted by goz83

Having a quick look back over the posts, I am thinking you perhaps need a hobbie. One perhaps that doesn't involve petty attempts of criticism.

petty attempts of criticism, you say?

Originally Posted by goz83

Or, you could get a job. I suspect that's another thread for you support your bum buddies in the Dail.

My bum buddies?


Well that was a waste of good bandwidth.

[goz83]

Originally Posted by OldNotWIse

Why did you think it was worth paying X amount for it then and not now? Has the house become smaller or been magically re-located to a less expensive area? Seriously I dont get why people are so worked up about their houses decreasing in value. If you were willing to pay half a million quid a few years ago you obviously believed the house was worth said amount?

If your property (assuming you have one) is in negative equity, ignore the rest of this post.

Mate, you either don't have a clue, or are just trying to stir the s**t. The poster you responded to didn't have to have the house morphed to a cheaper location. The value dropped by location and therefore the value of the house too dropped. If someone buys a home for say 400k and over a 15 year period they pay lets say half. If the value drops to 200k, so what! That person can still trade in for a different home. However, If some in the past 5 years paid this amount, they are stuck and that's assuming they can pay the mortgage if they still have a job. That means no way to grow your family if you're stuck in a 1, or 2 bed apartment and no real chance of getting anywhere for a couple of decades.

By nature, we go with the flow and the flow was telling hundred and thousands of people to "buy now, or you never will afford a home". The banks certainly made it easy to borrow massive sums. And this household charge is just another step too far for so may people.

[goz83]

Originally Posted by dvpower

I'm listening...


petty attempts of criticism, you say?


My bum buddies?


Well that was a waste of good bandwidth.

It's quite noticeable that you avoid areas you've been caught out, or areas you don't feel comfortable with. So, get a job and build up that low self esteem. Maybe then you won't feel the need to be a nuisance here. If it helps you out, I can tell you that your comments are causing me to lose sleep, that I am rattling with the nerves you've been causing me and others, that the doctor is on the way now before I tie that knot. Would it help you if I told you that? I can help you. I really can. But you must want to be helped.

The number of posts to time registered is really not a give away either. You're averaging more than 5 per day as a regular loser user.

[mikom]

Originally Posted by dvpower

My bum buddies?


Well that was a waste of good bandwidth.

That's what she said............... ZING.

[dvpower]

*backs away slowly*

Edit: Well that was poor post positioning.

[Slick50]

Originally Posted by OldNotWIse

Why did you think it was worth paying X amount for it then and not now?

Have you ever heard of a thing called market value? Houses were changing hands for that kind of money because if you didn't pay it someone else would.
So if you wanted it that is what you had to pay. And all this money was being provided by banks, who in turn were over extending themselves.
Many people held out for years believing prices would come back down, but when they seen them continuing to climb, they took the jump. Paying even more, for having held out.

Originally Posted by OldNotWIse

Has the house become smaller or been magically re-located to a less expensive area?

Not very likely.

Originally Posted by OldNotWIse

Seriously I dont get why people are so worked up about their houses decreasing in value. If you were willing to pay half a million quid a few years ago you obviously believed the house was worth said amount?

Because they have very little prospect of being able to sell, or move up the property ladder, to a larger or better house that would cost less than they paid for the one they are in. It's called the "property trap".

[dxhound2005]

Originally Posted by goz83

If your property (assuming you have one) is in negative equity, ignore the rest of this post.

Mate, you either don't have a clue, or are just trying to stir the s**t. The poster you responded to didn't have to have the house morphed to a cheaper location. The value dropped by location and therefore the value of the house too dropped. If someone buys a home for say 400k and over a 15 year period they pay lets say half. If the value drops to 200k, so what! That person can still trade in for a different home. However, If some in the past 5 years paid this amount, they are stuck and that's assuming they can pay the mortgage if they still have a job. That means no way to grow your family if you're stuck in a 1, or 2 bed apartment and no real chance of getting anywhere for a couple of decades.

By nature, we go with the flow and the flow was telling hundred and thousands of people to "buy now, or you never will afford a home". The banks certainly made it easy to borrow massive sums. And this household charge is just another step too far for so may people.

They could be entitled to Mortgage Interest Supplement and by extension not be liable for the Household Charge.

[greenpilot]

Originally Posted by goz83

It's quite noticeable that you avoid areas you've been caught out, or areas you don't feel comfortable with. So, get a job and build up that low self esteem. Maybe then you won't feel the need to be a nuisance here. If it helps you out, I can tell you that your comments are causing me to lose sleep, that I am rattling with the nerves you've been causing me and others, that the doctor is on the way now before I tie that knot. Would it help you if I told you that? I can help you. I really can. But you must want to be helped.

The number of posts to time registered is really not a give away either. You're averaging more than 5 per day as a regular loser user.

Just ignore their posts. The same thing happened BishopDonal earlier. Where is he now? These state pawns eventually run out of steam when they realise that the real world finally holds sway. I figure Dvpower and Dxhound are one and the same person anyway. I have been copying and pasting all their posts so that, come the end of the month, I shall see them eat humble pie!! Dont Register, Dont Pay, Dont be a bloody Sheep!!