Originally Posted by bonniebede
you are right that it doesn't take a year to get a harvest but here is my thinking.
First of all what sort of disaster are you prepping for?
Most fiction scenarios (Day of the Triffids etc) use some plot mechanism to conveniently clear all the pople out of the way. Wake up one morning everyone dies, spend most of your time looking for people. Most realistic eotw scenarios won't be like that, Say collapse of the banking system, hyper inflation and general social mayhem...
There will be lots of people, who will pour out of the cities looking for food, and eat up any available crop in the countryside before they run out, turn to cannibalism, and disappear.
So no use counting a preplanted garden as food supply, it will be too visible and impossible to protect. it is only after the population dwindles thsat you can count on planting.
So figure 2 months to the point where people start dying of hunger, another 4 months as people start scouring the landscape, don't forget there is a lot of food growing in ireland, there's 2 cows for every human being, for goodness sake, and then maybe another two months for the planted food to be gone and even the survivors start to die.
At that stage, anyone left, and that will still be alot of people will either be already bugged out to a rural location, or will have realised they have to do that. In other words the marauders will have dwindled to the point where a survival community might be able to defend their plantings against them.
During all this time you will need to have a well hidden food store, as well as a store of seeds to begin again with. So then three months to start cropping in, once things are calmed down, and wild foraging is viable again because of less need to hide, that's my guesstimate.
Makes me think a year of food is pretty essential.
Does it have to be either/or?
I agree that having a cabin in the woods with a convenient allotment won't be much use in any survival scenario as even if somehow you're able to escape the city to get to it, it'll probably be overrun by other people who were less well prepared than you.
Having said that my girlfriend and I are making a concerted effort to grow large amounts of food in our back garden, mostly through using vertical space. We're not a stage yet where we're self sufficient for veggies (hope to get there one day), so we have started stockpiling some essentials - one tip I did read was that a great place to store said supplies is underneath a Queen sized bed if you have one.
A few sensible additions I'd recommend is peanut butter which is great for a huge dose of protein and also salt.
It's true our house could be overrun but we feel it's safer to be hidden in plain sight, the knee jerk response of most non preppers will probably be to try and get out of town in our view.