[Stinjy]

Right so apparently the Castleknock area is getting an ice rink , and if they can sustain it they want to keep it permanent, so in this thread I was wondering if anyone else thought of making a hockey team? of if there is anyone out there with coaching skills etc? Just wondering

[A V A]

id be up for it ,i played in boston for a bit ,broke up people i did . . . . hahahahah

[Stinjy]

haha that's brilliant, someone with some experience.. I've always wanted to play and have skated since I was young, so that's a start

[MrJoeSoap]

Can't skate well enough yet but I'm going to learn now and would be looking to try and start playing a bit...

[anniehoo]

I can go in a straight line thats about it, but would love to join something like this if its literally for beginners. Keep me posted

[Stinjy]

ah yeah I've never played before .. and can skate just can't stop. but I like taught myself there's no training there..so probably not great.... :s

[victap8]

Yeah I'm definitely up for a hockey team, played in Latvian when i was younger and doing a bit of practice by myself at home now too.

[A V A]

think there will be people turning up with all the good gear etc but with out the tallent, as harsh as it seems ,it being around castleknock you'll get the "dzzzope" coming in , its like a mixed martial arts class, people will drop out after the first class or session and wont go back,the novelty would wear off like most cases learning to skate is one thing but ,playing hockey is another .learn how to be good on your feet with blades ,then learn the skills of hockey,hope thats what the rink would bring, so you would see people progress. . . .

[victap8]

Originally Posted by A V A

think there will be people turning up with all the good gear etc but with out the tallent, as harsh as it seems ,it being around castleknock you'll get the "dzzzope" coming in , its like a mixed martial arts class, people will drop out after the first class or session and wont go back,the novelty would wear off like most cases learning to skate is one thing but ,playing hockey is another .learn how to be good on your feet with blades ,then learn the skills of hockey,hope thats what the rink would bring, so you would see people progress. . . .

I see it as if it's properly organised it could be done, like first do skating drills and practise, then have separate session with stick work and shooting and then bring the 2 together say every second week so the players can have a game.

[MysticalSoul]

Originally Posted by victap8

I see it as if it's properly organised it could be done, like first do skating drills and practise, then have separate session with stick work and shooting and then bring the 2 together say every second week so the players can have a game.

I was speaking to a hockey player recently, and he said the best hockey players are taught the skating aspect by figure skating coaches, and learn the hockey skills for a hockey coach.

[A V A]

Originally Posted by victap8

I see it as if it's properly organised it could be done, like first do skating drills and practise, then have separate session with stick work and shooting and then bring the 2 together say every second week so the players can have a game.

people are jumping way ahead of the boat ,as my example of the mma class ,they are run to the highest standard ,if your coach is passionate and serious,people still drop out etc, after jumping straight in to the mma part ,with out learning the basics first ,like grappling ,boxing, muay thai ,judo!!!! its the same with being on the ice , you dont just do drills , you got to able to skate first ,and like the comment above said, you learn from figure skaters. the leg and body movement and the placement of the feet etc not saying you have to go do figure skating to play but learning how to go smoothly on your blades first before even doing stick work !!!

[victap8]

Originally Posted by A V A

people are jumping way ahead of the boat ,as my example of the mma class ,they are run to the highest standard ,if your coach is passionate and serious,people still drop out etc, after jumping straight in to the mma part ,with out learning the basics first ,like grappling ,boxing, muay thai ,judo!!!! its the same with being on the ice , you dont just do drills , you got to able to skate first ,and like the comment above said, you learn from figure skaters. the leg and body movement and the placement of the feet etc not saying you have to go do figure skating to play but learning how to go smoothly on your blades first before even doing stick work !!!

fair point mate.

The way i was thought to skate when i was a youngster was first by doing dry training, without skates and all, in a sports hall going up and down, going down low keeping back straight bent knees, jumping off one leg onto the other and moving the arms as if you were skating, that was thought to me by one of my hockey couches in Daugavpils, Latvia.

If there was an Olympic sized ice rink in Dublin I guarantee you it would be packed, and not with just seniors and guys from abroad.

It could be the way some coaches teach young lads that they're leaving, I don't know, maybe or maybe not!

If I were to start a hockey learn to play programme I would make it tough..dry training (not stick work) say 2-3 times a week and on ice training (if possible) 2-3 times a week, in my opinion that's not even that bad. I tell you when I played when I was about 9, we had on-ice training early in the morning before school, then school until 3, then dry in-hall training from 6-9, doing hall lengths of squats, lunges, sprints, also doing push ups etc. Doing that every day of the week and being rewarded by a match on the weekend, I loved it!

I obviously know Ireland isn't ready for this, probably won't even be ready for that kind of thing for a good bit of time but hockey enthusiasts in Ireland can have this kind of goal in their mind!

Ah I'm just rambling on now, but yeah I'm a huge fan of hockey! Im 18 now and the last time I played ice hockey was when I was 10, really want to start playing again.

[A V A]

very good point aswell, i think me and you are on the same page tbh , i love seeing kids getting out there and learning and having fun (im a scout leader blah blah ) etc and its good to see adults wanting to do a new sport too, but it needs to take off in ireland properly with training schemes and funds etc,let alone d15 u know, you said a good point about seniors being on the ice, i agree but when you'll get people coming up to learn ,you'll get the "mighty ducks" enthusiasts ,if you get me ? you know that will take more time and effort and taking away from the funs thats there to be had

[victap8]

Originally Posted by A V A

very good point aswell, i think me and you are on the same page tbh , i love seeing kids getting out there and learning and having fun (im a scout leader blah blah ) etc and its good to see adults wanting to do a new sport too, but it needs to take off in ireland properly with training schemes and funds etc,let alone d15 u know, you said a good point about seniors being on the ice, i agree but when you'll get people coming up to learn ,you'll get the "mighty ducks" enthusiasts ,if you get me ? you know that will take more time and effort and taking away from the funs thats there to be had

Me too! the youngsters are the future to ice hockey in Ireland!

Yeah but its also hard to get these funds, and no one wants to fund(sponsor) a sport that isn't on telly or isn't popular and has no proper ice rink..its stupid i think!

IF the rink in Santry opens i think ice hockey will be on its way in Ireland, main factor being that the rink will actually be in Dublin!

And yeah i get what you mean.

[Stinjy]

I know it would take lots of training and practise etc, and a lot of people that aren't kids don't have the sort of time if they're only doing it for the fun,

My love of hockey and skating comes from the fact that I'm originally from Canada watched the speed skating and figure skating etc, and have always loved skating, yes I loved the mighty ducks but the real hockey as in the Stanley cup and what not is something I really enjoy watching and following..

obviously real hockey takes a looooooot of time,, I get that but I think it'd be great to have a team that had a bit of fun and not too serious

However I understand that skating is a must, and maybe dry training is the right way.. I've never done that, but I guess roller-skating from a young age helped a lot, but once people have the courage and persistence to learn they can, with or without a load of lessons...