[sandmanporto]

Originally Posted by G.muny

I have a half brother from Germany and have been on numerous occasions. Everyone there had nothing but good things to say about the Irish to me. Didn't seem to like the Brits very much though

I acknowledge your post. But I know little enough to comment.

[Dr.Poca]

I would agree with people who say it's about where you grow up.

If you're born to Irish parents in America, lived in America till adulthood (or late teens etc. I suppose it could vary) I would consider you American. I mean you've grown up with American culture, society, schools, the lot. That's what kinda defines your nationality to me. The culture you're familar with.

On the other hand, if you're born to Irish parents, live there for a couple of years but spend most of your childhood - adulthood growing up with Irish society I'd imagine you'd associate yourself as being Irish. Despite being born in America, it's not really your home as you've grown up with Irish culture/society.

Also, the thread instantly made me think of this:

Go to 3.05 for Irish reference, but the whole thing is funny

[sandmanporto]

Originally Posted by paky

yes the germans look down on us but the irish were part of the armies that kicked their asses in both world wars

That's pretty much a joke!

[G.muny]

Originally Posted by sandmanporto

I acknowledge your post. But I know little enough to comment.

Well you already said Germans don't think much of the Irish yet as an Irish citizen who has been there 6 times I have NEVER experienced this even in the slightest. Only discrimination I did find there was people getting pissy with me when they thought I was British and when I said "actually I am Irish" they apoligised not that I thought much of them afterwards anyway. But if you don't know anything about it why say Germans don't like the Irish in the first place?

[paky]

Originally Posted by sandmanporto

That's pretty much a joke!

how is it

[Terry]

Originally Posted by Overheal

Its fun reading Irish people think.

For one, this thread is bloated, spewing, with Irish Patriotism. And there are plenty more where this came from. Do the Irish really not smell the stink of their own shyte? You're all as patriotic as anybody. 'What land is this? Ahrland!'

Secondly, this idea that Sean Hannity speaks for America and we all go to bed at night praying to baby Jesus and chanting about how we live in the 'greatest, free-est nation on Earth'. A load of crap, I assure you. Don't let punditry fool you into thinking that all Americans prescribe to a doctrine of Exceptionalism.

Finally, American culture is defined by it's roots. Since the War of Independence it's been what, only 230 years, 'ish? We don't have the same elongated history that Europe and Asia have. We might, if the natives weren't essentially the victims of genocide. Ah, but thats another story entirely - for the moment you can simply acknowledge that the vast majority of the population and culture originates from European ancestry.

I don't understand why so many Irish on this thread are having conniptions about people wishing to wear 'Irish' on their sleeve. It really shouldn't matter if they are 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 5th generation. Would you be happier if a tourist said they had "Irish Ancestry"? I for one have never heard anybody walk up to a Pat and say "My great^7 grandfather was Irish therefore I am Irish and we are family, brother." Maybe I was just hanging out in the wrong pubs.

You've never heard that because you're American.
A few years in Carlow does not qualify you for Irish citizenship. It only qualifies you for sheep-shagger status. Carlow people like to **** sheep.

Sean Hannity is a complete and utter cúnt, and I hope he dies a slow and horrible death while sucking on Bill O'Reilly's cock, which is syphilis riddled.

Sorry. Didn't read the whole thread. It's late and I'm tired.

In short, Americans who claim to be part Irish because their great grandfather stuck his cock in the Blarney stone are idiots.

You're American. Be all that you can be. Uncle Sam needs you.
You're not Irish. We will never accept you as Irish, mostly because you insist on being American. Choose one nationality and stick with it.

[challengemaster]

Originally Posted by DEFTLEFTHAND

Irish people are very insecure and have a massive inferiority complex towards the USA.

I think it's more like not wanting to be associated with a large percentage of idiots that exist in the US.

[Robdude]

Originally Posted by challengemaster

I think it's more like not wanting to be associated with a large percentage of idiots that exist in the US.

I don't believe that for a second.

Nobody associates Ireland with the United States. And, if anyone did, it would be because of Ireland's policies at a national level.

When I see people make threads on boards.ie that talk about what the US didn't invent or why the US isn't so great - it's not because they fear being associated with Ireland if they don't.

I don't ever feel the need to say, 'China isn't so great!' because I don't want to be associated with a large percentage of idiots that exist in China.

[woodoo]

Originally Posted by Terry

You've never heard that because you're American.
A few years in Carlow does not qualify you for Irish citizenship. It only qualifies you for sheep-shagger status. Carlow people like to **** sheep.

Sean Hannity is a complete and utter cúnt, and I hope he dies a slow and horrible death while sucking on Bill O'Reilly's cock, which is syphilis riddled.

Sorry. Didn't read the whole thread. It's late and I'm tired.

In short, Americans who claim to be part Irish because their great grandfather stuck his cock in the Blarney stone are idiots.

You're American. Be all that you can be. Uncle Sam needs you.
You're not Irish. We will never accept you as Irish, mostly because you insist on being American. Choose one nationality and stick with it.

Who is we? Do you speak for all of us?

[Badgermonkey]

Originally Posted by sandmanporto

I am simply putting it that you should all be proud that Americans of Irish descent are proud of being Irish!

Proud of it? No, not really. I'm glad they place some value on their extraction, that can only be a good thing.

Originally Posted by sandmanporto

The United States at least always had a special bond with Ireland.

As peoples perhaps, but let's not overstate it.

At executive level, the 'special bond' is somewhat of a delusion on our part (ditto Blighty). Were we to cease 'playing ball' with the U.S., no amount of JFK's, John Hustons, Tip O'Neills or Henry Fords would matter a jot.

[sandmanporto]

Originally Posted by Terry

You've never heard that because you're American.
A few years in Carlow does not qualify you for Irish citizenship. It only qualifies you for sheep-shagger status. Carlow people like to **** sheep.

Sean Hannity is a complete and utter cúnt, and I hope he dies a slow and horrible death while sucking on Bill O'Reilly's cock, which is syphilis riddled.

Sorry. Didn't read the whole thread. It's late and I'm tired.

In short, Americans who claim to be part Irish because their great grandfather stuck his cock in the Blarney stone are idiots.

You're American. Be all that you can be. Uncle Sam needs you.
You're not Irish. We will never accept you as Irish, mostly because you insist on being American. Choose one nationality and stick with it.

Do you really think anyone wants to be irish?
I am not attacking you personally but you should respect people.
You should appreciate americans who want to be Irish. I have heard so much criticism from european people and american people about irish people and like an earthquake it burst when i created this post! I stuck up for the irish people but when people like you post things like that it dampens my spirits!
And by the way, being Irish means nothing! Really it doesn't!
Look at German Americans who never boast about their ancestry! Yet the Germans saw the Irish budget before the Irish did! That would humiliate anybody!!
Germans look down on the Irish!!
Get your priorities straight. If an American of Irish blood is proud of being Irish let them be. Take it as a compliment!! because Europeans look down on irish as being "the knackers" of Europe!
even less beings than the brit chavs!
And yes even you from a higher socio economic background are tarred with the same brush...
You should be proud american irish associate themselves with being Irish

[sandmanporto]

[QUOTE=Badgermonkey;75561607]Proud of it? No, not really. I'm glad they place some value on their extraction, that can only be a good thing.



As peoples perhaps, but let's not overstate it.

Are you proud the Germans pretty much dictate you're budget???
Your ancestors got independence for nothing!! Have you any pride?

I don't think so!! Either you have a voice, physical strenght(outdated) or a brain!.
Internet forums mean nothing but voicing opinion

[woodoo]

Originally Posted by sandmanporto

Do you really think anyone wants to be irish?
I am not attacking you personally but you should respect people.
You should appreciate americans who want to be Irish. I have heard so much criticism from european people and american people about irish people and like an earthquake it burst when i created this post! I stuck up for the irish people but when people like you post things like that it dampens my spirits!
And by the way, being Irish means nothing! Really it doesn't!
Look at German Americans who never boast about their ancestry! Yet the Germans saw the Irish budget before the Irish did! That would humiliate anybody!!
Germans look down on the Irish!!
Get your priorities straight. If an American of Irish blood is proud of being Irish let them be. Take it as a compliment!! because Europeans look down on irish as being "the knackers" of Europe!
even less beings than the brit chavs!
And yes even you from a higher socio economic background are tarred with the same brush...
You should be proud american irish associate themselves with being Irish

You're beginning to talk out your arse now i'm afraid. You are in no position to say what an entire continent think of us.

[Badgermonkey]

Originally Posted by sandmanporto

Do you really think anyone wants to be irish?
I am not attacking you personally but you should respect people.
You should appreciate americans who want to be Irish. I have heard so much criticism from european people and american people about irish people and like an earthquake it burst when i created this post! I stuck up for the irish people but when people like you post things like that it dampens my spirits!
And by the way, being Irish means nothing! Really it doesn't!
Look at German Americans who never boast about their ancestry! Yet the Germans saw the Irish budget before the Irish did! That would humiliate anybody!!
Germans look down on the Irish!!
Get your priorities straight. If an American of Irish blood is proud of being Irish let them be. Take it as a compliment!! because Europeans look down on irish as being "the knackers" of Europe!
even less beings than the brit chavs!
And yes even you from a higher socio economic background are tarred with the same brush...
You should be proud american irish associate themselves with being Irish

If you're 14 and texting this from a roller-disco, the above is somewhat understandable.

If not, sweet Jebus.

[sandmanporto]

Originally Posted by woodoo

You're beginning to talk out your arse now i'm afraid. You are in no position to say what an entire continent think of us.

Can you justify why?
The Irish relied on German savings. Look what the Irish did to their economy? The Irish have made an ass out of themselves! Lower class groups in Irish society had no control but the upper class showed they were ugly greedy pieces of sh*t