[Noreen1]

Originally Posted by MagicSean

Have you ever met his wife? Id love to know if she is as stupid and under his thumb as she pretended to be in court.

No, I know nothing about his wife, other than what I read in the papers.

[K-9]

Originally Posted by Noreen1

I wonder how many of Bertie or Brian Lenihans supporters knew them personally?

You cannot compare the loyalty? of people to politicians whom they do not know personally, to the loyalty of people to someone they know, respect, and admire.

Incidentally, you did notice that FF were decimated in both the local and National elections, right?

Sean Quinn has been declared bankrupt. His assets will be seized, to pay off as much of his outstanding debt as possible. I've already stated I have no problem with that.

So, when do we get back to being outraged that Anglo debts, which were much more substantial than Sean Quinns, will never be recouped, that NAMA, if it succeeds, will cost those needing a home more than 2+ Billion in buying artificially inflated properties, and if it fails, the taxpayer will be footing yet another bill, probably well in excess of 2+ Billion - and that the Government - not Sean Quinn, decided to take on Anglos debts, and pay the Bondholders.

Methinks, at this stage, we have a great deal more to be outraged and worried about than 2 Billion, substantial as that may be.......

Which leads me right back to the question about so much media coverage about Sean Quinn, and so very little information about matters that have the potential to cost us a great deal more......

Just on the Sean Quinn part of Anglo, Quinn would have had to repay Anglo wether it went bust, got Nationalised or some private company took it over.

Here's some facts to put this in perspective:

http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php...ons/#more-6204

You see the subordinated bondholder figure of €2.3 Billion? The ones people keep going on about? Quinn lost more in the Contracts for Difference tranactions on Anglo.

[onedaysoon]

Up Cavan..

[Noreen1]

Originally Posted by K-9

Just on the Sean Quinn part of Anglo, Quinn would have had to repay Anglo wether it went bust, got Nationalised or some private company took it over.

Here's some facts to put this in perspective:

http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php...ons/#more-6204

You see the subordinated bondholder figure of €2.3 Billion? The ones people keep going on about? Quinn lost more in the Contracts for Difference tranactions on Anglo.

Thanks for the link.

I'm aware that Sean Quinn would have had to pay Anglo, anyway.

My point was that there is so much vitriol and media coverage of Sean Quinn, and so very little media coverage/information on matters that have/will ultimately cost us a great deal more, one way or another.

[Tayla]

Originally Posted by Noreen1

I wonder how many of Bertie or Brian Lenihans supporters knew them personally?
You cannot compare the loyalty? of people to politicians whom they do not know personally, to the loyalty of people to someone they know, respect, and admire.

You have no way of knowing how many supporters knew them personally.

Originally Posted by Noreen1

Incidentally, you did notice that FF were decimated in both the local and National elections, right?

You do realise that Brian Lenihan got voted back in right?

Originally Posted by Noreen1

Sean Quinn has been declared bankrupt. His assets will be seized, to pay off as much of his outstanding debt as possible. I've already stated I have no problem with that.

Yes but the problem is that he wants to make it as difficult as possible.

Originally Posted by Noreen1

So, when do we get back to being outraged that Anglo debts

Noreen, we are outraged at the Anglo debts, where are you getting the impression that we're not?

[DarkJager]

Originally Posted by Noreen1

Thanks for the link.

I'm aware that Sean Quinn would have had to pay Anglo, anyway.

My point was that there is so much vitriol and media coverage of Sean Quinn, and so very little media coverage/information on matters that have/will ultimately cost us a great deal more, one way or another.

Matters that are costing us more by the day because of the reckless financial gambling done by greedy ****ing bastards like Sean Quinn. It must be real nice to run up debts like that knowing the people of the country and their children will pay the balance back. **** Sean Quinn.

[tipptom]

The budgetry cutbacks this year was over 3 billion,the same amount of money as Quinn owes the state,illnesses will be prolonged and people will die because of these cut backs.Sean Quinn and his family are undoubtably using what will eventually will be tax payers money for legal companies all over the world to frustate the chances of getting this money back of him.They should stop pussyfooting around with them and arrest every one of them,Wife,son,daughters,sons in law and keep them in overnight and the maximum time under questioning.I would think there is at the very least that their is technacalitys that this could be done under.Might loosen some of them up enough to get the office block in Russia out of them.

[flutered]

this guy creamed the cream from the churn, he slipped and let the bucket fall, why should i and others like me pay for him to fill it again, good riddance to bad rubbish i say, please do not make an excuse for this guy who got caught, because the others in the anglo did not.

[lazygal]

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...d-3056273.html


How long more is he going to keep pushing away dealing with the problems of his own making?

[Run_to_da_hills]

Dean Quinn be smashed if he has to depend on FLAC for this case.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...p-3052411.html

[R P McMurphy]

Looks like chickens could be coming home to roost. Possibility of coercive and punative actions directed against him, son and nephew if some of the money is not repaid

[lazygal]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...15.html?via=mr

What a chancer.

[Buttonftw]

Indefinite custody for all of them until their actions which went against the court order are reversed, simple. Though if I were to guess the sanctions that will be passed out will be ones that have little impact on their lives, couple of nights in prison and a few token assets returned will probably be it.

[Burt Lancaster]

In my experience most wealthy people I know in Ireland made their money by being totally immoral gangsters but trying to keep a pretend veneer of respectability on the outside.
Let's face it, there are very few sustainable and legit ways of making lots of money in Ireland, and I would be very suspicious of anyone who appears to have.

[kegzmc]

How much did he manage to hide though? You have to hand it to him. I would do the same. Must be hard all the same to see everything he worked for washed down the tube.