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Einhard · 16-10-2011, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Wolfe Tone

Do you have a link for that? Would be interested in reading it...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Martin-McGui...8795195&sr=8-1

No link off hand, but it's there in black and white. And before you reply, no, it;s not an anti-McGuinness spiel. It's actually quite balanced. You'd probably like it.

Wolfe Tone · 16-10-2011, 21:06

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Originally Posted by Einhard

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Martin-McGui...8795195&sr=8-1

No link off hand, but it's there in black and white. And before you reply, no, it;s not an anti-McGuinness spiel. It's actually quite balanced. You'd probably like it.

Maybe you have no link because it didnt happen, and MMG stood up in court and said that he was a proud member of Oglaigh na hEireann?

Liam Byrne · 16-10-2011, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Wolfe Tone

Maybe you have no link because it didnt happen, and MMG stood up in court and said that he was a proud member of Oglaigh na hEireann?

Maybe he meant the real one ?

Einhard · 16-10-2011, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Wolfe Tone

Maybe you have no link because it didnt happen, and MMG stood up in court and said that he was a proud member of Oglaigh na hEireann?

I just provided you with a link...

Not everything that has ever happened can be found with a quick google search...

Happyman42 · 16-10-2011, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Einhard

It's actually quite balanced.

Nice of you to acknowledge that there IS a 'balanced view'

Monty Burnz · 16-10-2011, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Happyman42

It was ...eh.....hypothetical.....you know when someone asks you to 'think it through'?

Usually, when speaking hypothetically, we indicate it is a hypothetical statement by using a word like 'if'.

e.g.

John says he is gay... (statement)

If John says he is gay...(hypothetical)

HTH

Wolfe Tone · 16-10-2011, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Einhard

I just provided you with a link...

Not everything that has ever happened can be found with a quick google search...

MMG stood up in court and said he was a member of the IRA and that he was proud of it... Thats documented fact.

You say he denied ever being in the IRA... I'm skeptical, you will have to do better than some random book.

MMG has always said he was in the IRA and that he is proud of that. Its Gerry who has denied it, perhaps you are confused.

Monty Burnz · 16-10-2011, 21:12

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Originally Posted by The Minstrel

This is the real Celtic v Rangers point-scoring that I truly despise.

I do so apologise if I offended your delicate sensibilities. I was merely pointing out that NI does indeed have a head of state, and it isn't Martin McGuinness - not by a long straw.

The Minstrel · 16-10-2011, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Monty Burnz

I do so apologise if I offended your delicate sensibilities. I was merely pointing out that NI does indeed have a head of state, and it isn't Martin McGuinness - not by a long straw.

Please stay on topic Monty. I don't care about any of this moronic parochialism. It's totally derailing the thread. The discussion should be about the impact of the Irish Independent's intervention in the presidential campaign.

Where might McGuinness be in the polls if the Indo took a balanced view? Does anyone think he'd be way out in front?

Happyman42 · 16-10-2011, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Monty Burnz

Usually, when speaking hypothetically, we indicate it is a hypothetical statement by using a word like 'if'.

e.g.

John says he is gay... (statement)

If John says he is gay...(hypothetical)

HTH

Did you think I suddenly spilled the beans

Maybe if you looked before you leape.....ah never mind!

busyliving · 16-10-2011, 21:23

OP the indo is a rag and I don't read it, in the same way i do read the mail

ILikeBananas · 16-10-2011, 21:24

The Sunday Independent's coverage of MMG the past three weeks has been pathetic. I mean it was bad enough 2 weeks ago but at least he was still in with a chance then. I don't see the point of it this week. They are flogging a dead horse.

At this stage of the campaign it's blatantly obvious that it is a two horse race. I would therefore have expected the bulk of the election coverage to be about Sean Gallagher and Michael D. Higgins. Instead we get another 8 opinion pieces about why we shouldn't vote for MMG (even Willie O' Dea is getting a few digs in). If anything at this stage they might actually turn some floating voters into SF voters out of sympathy and annoyance!

I'm not a SF voter nor will I be in the future. I think the way RTE and the Independent have behaved has not been fair and balanced though. They've manged to make the DUP look tolerant.

Monty Burnz · 16-10-2011, 21:28

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Originally Posted by The Minstrel

I don't care about any of this moronic parochialism. It's totally derailing the thread. The discussion should be about the impact of the Irish Independent's intervention in the presidential campaign.

I notice you didn't object to the person on your side of the debate who suggested that MMG was practically the head of state in NI, but you do object and sneer at the person who points out that he isn't. How odd. Your problem with 'parochialism' seems to be a little inconsistent.

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Originally Posted by The Minstrel

Where might McGuinness be in the polls if the Indo took a balanced view? Does anyone think he'd be way out in front?

At a guess, I'd say the answers will break down more or less exactly as you'd expect, with SF supporters saying he probably would be in front, and those who aren't SF supporters saying he probably wouldn't be.

Einhard · 16-10-2011, 21:29

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Originally Posted by The Minstrel

Please stay on topic Monty. I don't care about any of this moronic parochialism. It's totally derailing the thread. The discussion should be about the impact of the Irish Independent's intervention in the presidential campaign.

Where might McGuinness be in the polls if the Indo took a balanced view? Does anyone think he'd be way out in front?

I'm sorry Minstrel, but you yourself derailed any notion of debate by unilaterally determining that the Indo is biased against McGuinness, and banning any dissent. It's as if I set up a thread on the basis of MMG being a murderer, and scolded anyone who expressed a contrary opinion.

Monty Burnz · 16-10-2011, 21:30

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Originally Posted by ILikeBananas

I'm not a SF voter nor will I be in the future. I think the way RTE and the Independent have behaved has not been fair and balanced though. They've manged to make the DUP look tolerant.

Boards is awash these days with people who've never voted SF before but are voting for MMG for president.

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busyliving Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Limerick, Rep. of Ireland Posts: 1,406 Adverts \| Friends	OP the indo is a rag and I don't read it, in the same way i do read the mail

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ILikeBananas Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 431 Adverts \| Friends	The Sunday Independent's coverage of MMG the past three weeks has been pathetic. I mean it was bad enough 2 weeks ago but at least he was still in with a chance then. I don't see the point of it this week. They are flogging a dead horse. At this stage of the campaign it's blatantly obvious that it is a two horse race. I would therefore have expected the bulk of the election coverage to be about Sean Gallagher and Michael D. Higgins. Instead we get another 8 opinion pieces about why we shouldn't vote for MMG (even Willie O' Dea is getting a few digs in). If anything at this stage they might actually turn some floating voters into SF voters out of sympathy and annoyance! I'm not a SF voter nor will I be in the future. I think the way RTE and the Independent have behaved has not been fair and balanced though. They've manged to make the DUP look tolerant.