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18-09-2011, 12:04   #1
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La Touche Hotel site clean up promised

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18-09-2011, 12:13   #2
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great news (if it happens)
and hopefully it will

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18-09-2011, 13:08   #3
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Was there not an issue where wooden beams etc. in the interior or rotting? I recall someone posting up photos here before.
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I'm not sure about this one. A few questions are raised. I wasn't aware that the building was in NAMA in the first case. Who is the owner/developer of the site again?

It appears the works mainly revolve around cleaning up the appearance of the site. I wouldn't have thought NAMA would sanction monies to be spent for something that isn't going to be actually used by anyone. I just don't see the finiancial benefit in the short to medium term for them to do this.

If the building is dangerous, let Wicklow Co. Co. deal with it. They have inspectors who will issue the necessary notices. Then the owner (identified to be NAMA) has to undertake the necessary remedial works to make the building safe. Has Wicklow Co. Co. issued such a notice that anyone is aware of?

On the one hand as a resident of Greystones, I am happy to see these proposals be given the go ahead, on the other hand it could simply be wasting money in the overall scheme of things. It's my take on it anyway.
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Read this again.....
"The latest update we have from the Anglo Irish Bank who are managing the case is that"
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20-09-2011, 12:57   #6
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More flim flam from 'Arris. No commitment from NAMA at all, merely the passing on of a proposal from Anglo.

The most contradictory statement yet from him...

'I welcome the positive commitment by NAMA to engage constructively on this issue. These proposals are very welcome and constitute far more than a mere paint job. All external hoarding around the site is to..” continued Deputy Harris.'

'has secured commitments from NAMA, which is now responsible', nope Anglo again.

'I trust this answers your query' meaning he made one query not the extensive communication he claims.

Can't wait for the cavalcade of councillor newsletters all with photographs of them standing outside La Touche claiming they looked into.
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[QUOTE=astrofluff;74474795]I'm not sure about this one. Who is the owner/developer of the site again?

The owner/developer has abdicated all responsible for the site once it went into NAMA. Yes they still have a massive debt to repay but they have no responsibility to make anything look good. Indeed NAMA has no responsibility to make it look good either merely to get some return on it.
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21-09-2011, 08:37   #8
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I'm not sure about this one. Who is the owner/developer of the site again?

The owner/developer has abdicated all responsible for the site once it went into NAMA. Yes they still have a massive debt to repay but they have no responsibility to make anything look good. Indeed NAMA has no responsibility to make it look good either merely to get some return on it.
Now that the owner has been identified by NAMA and SH, could the public be made aware of who the owner is. The planning notice for proposed future development is still posted on the hoardings in the name of a receiver (Mr Luby, I think).
How anyone can allow large sums of public money to be spent painting, replacing shuttering, installing new railings etc is beyond me. This is just incomprehensible in times of such severe austerity.
This hotel has gone beyond the stage of saving it and should be demolished and the site cleaned up.
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100% agree with vinpaul, what is Simon Harris doing securing funds to clean up the exterior of this once fine hotel? The interior is in a shambles from the pictures on the web. Cleaning up the exterior is a complete waste of money if the hotel is not going to be saved. A plan needs to be devised to sort out the long term future of this site and forget the short term tart up job. This is short sighted local politics at its worst.
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Just a question, but did Simon Harris actually do anything except send an email and get a response about plans that were already made? Hardly great work to secure something is it?
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Thanks for your agreement.
More people must protest at the spending/wasting of our money (and other tax payers) on this ridiculous unthought-out plan. Who in their right mind could sanction one cent for this stupid proposal. Let the receiver spend whatever he can get on cleaning up site. Don't let NAMA or WCC dream of looking for our support on this plan.
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Just a question, but did Simon Harris actually do anything except send an email and get a response about plans that were already made?
He also posed outside it for a photo that's in the North Wicklow Times - posing for publicity photos is 90% of SH's job.
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100% agree with vinpaul, what is Simon Harris doing securing funds to clean up the exterior of this once fine hotel? The interior is in a shambles from the pictures on the web. Cleaning up the exterior is a complete waste of money if the hotel is not going to be saved. A plan needs to be devised to sort out the long term future of this site and forget the short term tart up job. This is short sighted local politics at its worst.
Who would pay for the demolition and cleaning up?
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Maybe if anyone has issues/problems they should email Simon Harris
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Emailing Harris does nothing, he doesn't respond even to the most major of topics. He did nothing to move this forward anyway.

As to the owner of the La Touche site, most people know who they were and that they now no longer live in Ireland.. and even if here they have no control over what Anglo does with the property. Nor can they be held accountable for tidying it up themselves.

Harris has gotten way too much publicity out of this already.
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