[slowburner]

Originally Posted by CDfm

Irish Archaeology has links here and it may be possible to track down reports on the digs

http://irisharchaeology.ie/sample-page

The site hasn't been dug. That's probably why there is so much debate about it.
Thanks for the link - the Articles link on that site is brilliant.

[slowburner]

[CDfm]

Originally Posted by slowburner

The site hasn't been dug. That's probably why there is so much debate about it.
Thanks for the link - the Articles link on that site is brilliant.

you are welcome SB

i came accross it looking for viking stuff have fun and be sure to let us know any interesting stuff you come accross.

[CDfm]

Originally Posted by slowburner

The site hasn't been dug. That's probably why there is so much debate about it.
Thanks for the link - the Articles link on that site is brilliant.

Lots of undug sites but you did not need Romans there for a Roman influence or even a roman incursion.

http://homepage.eircom.net/~archaeology/road.htm

http://homepage.eircom.net/~archaeology/saxons.htm

EDIT

and more links here

http://tbreen.home.xs4all.nl/links.html

[Corsendonk]

Originally Posted by slowburner

I think Barry Raftery concluded that there was a Roman settlement in Drumanagh but concluded that it was not military on the basis that no weapons were found.
The site came to light when Roman artifacts were uncovered by illegal metal detecting. No excavation has been carried out because of other legal issues.
See here

The site has been extremely poorly protected for years. The green field shots are Drumanagh, Martello Tower clearly visible in the background.


On a side note the lands around Drumanagh are extremely good farming land which would have attracted some settlement even without trading.

John D'Alton "The history of the county of Dublin" (1838)

There is a portion of Rush, however, called Drum-
managh, deemed particularly rich by Rutty, the rich-
est in the whole county, and which accordingly is let at
four guineas per acre.

[slowburner]

Originally Posted by Corsendonk

The site has been extremely poorly protected for years. The green field shots are Drumanagh, Martello Tower clearly visible in the background.


On a side note the lands around Drumanagh are extremely good farming land which would have attracted some settlement even without trading.

John D'Alton "The history of the county of Dublin" (1838)

That's shocking.

[CDfm]

Here is a link to a site with an excavation database

http://www.excavations.ie/Pages/HomePage.php

[MarchDub]

Originally Posted by slowburner

I have been unable to find any evidence that Barry Raftery concluded this.
Michael Herity, however appears to have concluded that the site was an Irish trading post.

I found something : Raftery was interviewed for the RTE TV series 'In Search of Ancient Ireland' which aired around 2002/3 - I have a copy of it. He is standing on the Drumanagh site for the interview. I have copied out some of what he said regarding it being an Irish only settlement - not Roman style - with trading going on with the Roman world:

"Aerial photography suggests Irish style homes and that this was a place where native Irish were living trading with the Roman world. They [the Irish] were living here trading with the Romans and all sorts of other people from the Roman Empire".

[slowburner]

Originally Posted by MarchDub

I found something : Raftery was interviewed for the RTE TV series 'In Search of Ancient Ireland' which aired around 2002/3 - I have a copy of it. He is standing on the Drumanagh site for the interview. I have copied out some of what he said regarding it being an Irish only settlement - not Roman style - with trading going on with the Roman world:

Appreciate that Marchdub. But isn't it curious that he could come to such a conclusion based on aerial photos?

[paddyandy]

The Romans had more sense than England they would'nt come near us we were regarded as the Sleepy people always hibernating hence the HIBERNIANS.

[CDfm]

Originally Posted by slowburner

Appreciate that Marchdub. But isn't it curious that he could come to such a conclusion based on aerial photos?

If you look at it in the way that the archaelogy is going nowhere and it is a very significant site his objective would be to secure funding and permission to lead the dig.

So his ambition will be to lead the dig no matter what is under there so naturally he will talk it up.

I do not mean to be negative but it is the politics of research funding and it could be his life goal and it could be a way of raising awareness and getting it up the list.

[testicle]

Originally Posted by patwicklow

The first is a townland near Avoca by the name of Tigroney, this is translated locally as "The House of the Romans"

Im from this area and iv never heard anything in history about this, But i will do some research and get back,

Could it be House of the Rowan? Rowan is derived from Raun, the Norse for Tree.

[P. Breathnach]

Originally Posted by testicle

Could it be House of the Rowan? Rowan is derived from Raun, the Norse for Tree.

If you look it up in http://www.logainm.ie/ you get "Ainm Gaeilge le deimhniú" ["Irish name to be ascertained"].

How long is it since Irish was commonly spoken in the area? I tend to be cautious, even mistrustful, of supposed interpretations of placenames in areas that have been dominantly English-speaking for a long time.

[Wibbs]

Originally Posted by paddyandy

The Romans had more sense than England they would'nt come near us we were regarded as the Sleepy people always hibernating hence the HIBERNIANS.

Nope it means the land of winter

[paddyandy]

Originally Posted by Wibbs

Nope it means the land of winter

I'VE held that idea from my schooldays and the teachers words. I must search that one out.Thanks.