[Mountainlad]

Originally Posted by Hslaw

Maybe its time to stop underestimating clubs from the west,they are getting better,

Undoubtedly, but Ballyduff Upper at present are bottom of Group 2, and Dunhill are not an eastern team and that was a really bad result for Mount Sion. I wouldn't put too much stock in the league mind you, I'd imagine they were missing all their County players bar Tony so it's probably irrelevant. They are, however, fighting for their lives if they lose to Fourmilewater next weekend.

[daddydick]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/g...on-194432.html

Good article here from yesterdays examiner. The committment given by the footballers that come from Dublin for training midweek is unbelivable...best of luck to them today in Limerick.

Even without Hurney I fancy an upset, especially if Ferncombe starts, he's extremely dangerous.

Great start to the day with the juniors winning by 6 points, lets hope the seniors follow suit.

[Top drawer]

Originally Posted by Mountainlad

Undoubtedly, but Ballyduff Upper at present are bottom of Group 2, and Dunhill are not an eastern team and that was a really bad result for Mount Sion. I wouldn't put too much stock in the league mind you, I'd imagine they were missing all their County players bar Tony so it's probably irrelevant. They are, however, fighting for their lives if they lose to Fourmilewater next weekend.

Ive worked out that if dunhill lose to roanmore and mount sion lose to fourmile and tallow, sion are in relegation, i dont think anybody underestimates the teams from the west anymore, west abu

[Top drawer]

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Ive worked out that if dunhill lose to roanmore and mount sion lose to fourmile and tallow, sion are in relegation, i dont think anybody underestimates the teams from the west anymore, west abu[/Quote]
As in roanmore will have 3 points, dunhill 2 and sion be bottom regardless of roanmore game because of head to head with dunhill game

[deisebhoy17]

Originally Posted by Mountainlad

15 strawberries

good one

[zol 2]

Limerick 2-12 Waterford 0-7

We failed to score in the second half having put up a sterling effort in the first half,what went wrong?

[Fireball07]

Originally Posted by zol 2

Limerick 2-12 Waterford 0-7

We failed to score in the second half having put up a sterling effort in the first half,what went wrong?

Sounded like the option-taking by Waterford was terrible in the second half. After you missed the penalty, it all went wrong I think.

We also upped our defensive effort.

[zol 2]

Waterford minor hurlers:

Waterford 3-24

Laois 0-12

A second string Waterford outfit won this comfortably today in Walsh Park.None of the 15 that started against Clare started here.

One piece of bad news to come out of the camp is that Cathal Curran will miss the Tipp game as he will be having a hand operation next week and will be out for up to 8 weeks.

[deisebhoy17]

Originally Posted by Fireball07

Sounded like the option-taking by Waterford was terrible in the second half. After you missed the penalty, it all went wrong I think.

We also upped our defensive effort.

Very hard to take any positives out of this. No score in the 2nd half against a pretty poor limerick side. Further underlines how much we rely on Gary Hurney (who isnt going to be around for ever either).

John Owens I know has been critical of the co. boards decision to play a round of the hurling championship last weekend, he has a point as football championship games have often been cancelled weeks before the hurlers are due to play, but in truth we have gone backwards this year anyway and Id question if Owens has much more to offer after this season is over. Our record in the qualifiers is so bad its hard to see us doing anything in that either. Its been a pretty grim year for waterford football overall

[deisebhoy17]

Originally Posted by zol 2

One piece of bad news to come out of the camp is that Cathal Curran will miss the Tipp game as he will be having a hand operation next week and will be out for up to 8 weeks.

Big loss becuase that lad was outstanding in Ennis and for Col na Deise this season

[Mountainlad]

Originally Posted by deisebhoy17

Very hard to take any positives out of this. No score in the 2nd half against a pretty poor limerick side. Further underlines how much we rely on Gary Hurney (who isnt going to be around for ever either).

John Owens I know has been critical of the co. boards decision to play a round of the hurling championship last weekend, he has a point as football championship games have often been cancelled weeks before the hurlers are due to play, but in truth we have gone backwards this year anyway and Id question if Owens has much more to offer after this season is over. Our record in the qualifiers is so bad its hard to see us doing anything in that either. Its been a pretty grim year for waterford football overall

Ah they're missing more than Hurney though. Paul Whyte missed out today, a player I've fierce respect for. Tommy Prender is only just back after a long lay off. Dunno what the story with Mick Ahearn is but they could really do with him too.

The way Waterford football has been underage the last few years it's hard to see where the Seniors are supposed to get the players and the ability to drive on, there's no real foundation to build from. I don't think we've a bad football team, they could do with a boost though.

[hardybuck]

Originally Posted by Mountainlad

Ah they're missing more than Hurney though. Paul Whyte missed out today, a player I've fierce respect for. Tommy Prender is only just back after a long lay off. Dunno what the story with Mick Ahearn is but they could really do with him too.

The way Waterford football has been underage the last few years it's hard to see where the Seniors are supposed to get the players and the ability to drive on, there's no real foundation to build from. I don't think we've a bad football team, they could do with a boost though.

They've been operating like a country club side in recent years, hoping to have a strong underage team every few years, and then bring the odd lad through every year.

I'm worried about the long term as the standard of underteams has fallen dramatically in recent years, and from what I can see the underage club standard has gone in a similar direction.

I heard that the Co.B are looking for a Director of Football, and at least this might be a move in the right direction. Every other county around us have upped their game, we need to do likewise.

[Black Suir]

Originally Posted by hardybuck

They've been operating like a country club side in recent years, hoping to have a strong underage team every few years, and then bring the odd lad through every year.

I'm worried about the long term as the standard of underteams has fallen dramatically in recent years, and from what I can see the underage club standard has gone in a similar direction.

I heard that the Co.B are looking for a Director of Football, and at least this might be a move in the right direction. Every other county around us have upped their game, we need to do likewise.

The story on the ground is that Clubs were asked to forward names of those who they think might be best suited for the position. Only one name was forwarded, rumoured to be a present county senior footballer and he turned down the position. The County Board and Coiste Peil are now supposed to be looking for someone between them. I know there it is not right to name names here at times but will here. I believe we have a very good man in the county to fill the positon if asked - John 'Jackson' Kiely. Whoever takes the job will have to be back fully by the county board, as should Bord na nÓg and the Coaching Committee. Tipp have come on alot after John Evans got involved there. There is no reason why the same cant happen here.

[hardybuck]

Originally Posted by Black Suir

The story on the ground is that Clubs were asked to forward names of those who they think might be best suited for the position. Only one name was forwarded, rumoured to be a present county senior footballer and he turned down the position. The County Board and Coiste Peil are now supposed to be looking for someone between them. I know there it is not right to name names here at times but will here. I believe we have a very good man in the county to fill the positon if asked - John 'Jackson' Kiely. Whoever takes the job will have to be back fully by the county board, as should Bord na nÓg and the Coaching Committee. Tipp have come on alot after John Evans got involved there. There is no reason why the same cant happen here.

I heard the name forwarded, and I think he would be a fantastic choice. I think that this position is unpaid, which wouldn't help when attracting candidates.

[solarith]

Anyone recommending John Kiely for an administrative position clearly has no experience of dealing with him.

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I literally cannot stress how bad a choice this would be. The position is about promotion of underage football through administration and organization. Kiely has some qualities but these are not them. Not even close.