[alan27nologo]

Having worked in 3 different bookmakers for over 10 years I have realised that to take part in gambling on a daily basis you may as well be wizzing your money against the wall. The odds are completely packed against you and people will actually convince themselves that its worthwhile to gamble. These bookmakers make loads of money all off peoples losing bets. Think about it the next time your in a Paddy Power or A Boylesport who do you think is paying the rent the bills and the staff wages.

[UrbanSea]

People who are losing.

[premierstone]

To say Gambling is for fools is far too wide sweeping and generic, yes 99% of the guys who are in bookie shops every day of the week are idiots and are loosing money hand over fist, this is probably what you witnessed, but there are others who are selective on their gambling and only bet on sports/areas where they feel they have an edge, you probably wont see these guys in a bookies.

I gamble, primarily on GAA, Rugby and Golf with the odd very selective bet on NH racing but I cant remember hte last time I was in a bookies, probably last March, for the first race in chelt, just for the atmosphere! I keep records and logs of all my bets and I can guarantee you I am not a loosing punter and there are many more like me, a few here Im sure.

[alan27nologo]

I dont believe this as iif your a winning gambler online they just clse you down.

[ft9]

Betfair

[ft9]

Here is proof that you can be profitable, online, without Betfair even

[shawnee]

Originally Posted by alan27nologo

Having worked in 3 different bookmakers for over 10 years I have realised that to take part in gambling on a daily basis you may as well be wizzing your money against the wall. The odds are completely packed against you and people will actually convince themselves that its worthwhile to gamble. These bookmakers make loads of money all off peoples losing bets. Think about it the next time your in a Paddy Power or A Boylesport who do you think is paying the rent the bills and the staff wages.

Well you could say the same thing when you go to a pub, game, or indeed to any form of entertainment. Who pays the bills !!! Some people use these offices as an outlet to meet a few mates and take a chance that they might make a few bob while watching sport. There are some who are overdo it jusk like the pub

[premierstone]

Originally Posted by alan27nologo

I dont believe this as iif your a winning gambler online they just clse you down.

I have multiple accounts, I use Betfair for all my Golf bets and most of the Rugby, PP have restricted my account and I am having problems getting GAA bets on although William Hill are allowing them at the minute, Clare minors will ensure this continues for a while

[jkelly85]

Oh there is ways of making money on gambling. You need to have a account with all the bookies and most important betfair were you can lay off bets.

Just keeping to the sport you have the edge on is a key aswel

Never bet on sports you don't know

[albert kidd]

its like everything in life..if you put the work/effort in theres rewards.

[Jerry Seinfeld]

Originally Posted by alan27nologo

Having worked in 3 different bookmakers for over 10 years I have realised that to take part in gambling on a daily basis you may as well be wizzing your money against the wall. The odds are completely packed against you and people will actually convince themselves that its worthwhile to gamble. These bookmakers make loads of money all off peoples losing bets. Think about it the next time your in a Paddy Power or A Boylesport who do you think is paying the rent the bills and the staff wages.

Wow is that how it works

[CiaranC]

Originally Posted by premierstone

I am not a loosing punter and there are many more like me, a few here Im sure.

I doubt there are "many like you". Anyone have any figures on what percentage of regular punters are in profit?

[premierstone]

Originally Posted by CiaranC

I doubt there are "many like you". Anyone have any figures on what percentage of regular punters are in profit?

Well what does ''many'' mean?, I guess I know what you mean, tbh I have no idea what % of gamblers would be in profit, most have no idea themselves becasue they dont keep detailed records if any at all and a large number also delude themselves into thinking they are winning punters, rememeber the big wins but selectivley forget all the times they walked out of the shop pennyless.

I guess from my own experience I know about 20 regular punters and I would say only 3, myself included, are in profit, I have nothing to back up my belief that the other two are in profit only basing this on dicussion groups we hold and info we share, but we are definitely the only 3 who actually put a bit of effort into it and see it as a second job rather than a passtime.

[The_Kew_Tour]

Originally Posted by alan27nologo

Having worked in 3 different bookmakers for over 10 years I have realised that to take part in gambling on a daily basis you may as well be wizzing your money against the wall. The odds are completely packed against you and people will actually convince themselves that its worthwhile to gamble. These bookmakers make loads of money all off peoples losing bets. Think about it the next time your in a Paddy Power or A Boylesport who do you think is paying the rent the bills and the staff wages.

Like you I have worked in bookies myself for two summers while in in college. I have seen what people get up to and all that. I also fell into the trap of thinking its easy money when things go well. I was lucky in the fact that the place I worked the some punters had some great links to trainers and were doing well. I followed and won quite a bit, but it did not last forever. Things went downhill but I was lucky that I was still on profit.

What the bookies want is you to do their special bets like Lucky 15, Yankees and that awful Union Jack bet(whatever else you do stay well away from that one folks).

Now I bet on what I seem to have good knowledge in which is Golf, Football, GAA and Boxing. I keep a record of my bets and at end of every month or so I see where I might be going right or wrong. I will never be able to give up the day job thats for sure. I am not a big gambler anyway 5win/place be biggest bet I have on golf and 20quid on gaa or football..

The big thing for me though is value..I always make sure that the odds I am betting on are better then what I think they should be otherwise I stay well alone. In Golf I tend to have 2-3 players every year which I will follow and keep the belief that they will win soon enough which has done me great service over last few years. I have only had 2 bets on GAA this year.One was Kildare -2 points against Laois which I taught was unreal value(easy on hindsight) but came in and that's with me looking at odds for every GAA match this year.

Another big thing is never to back more then you can afford. I wont back on sport every week I dont feel like I need to bet

Lastly I never bet on anything more then double and 90% time when backing in football say, I will only do single(s) bet and stay well away from those accums which are bookies heaven.

[UrbanSea]

About 2% iirc