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**Lockstep** · 20-02-2012, 13:48

For moving abroad, will a law degree be sufficient or would you need to have completed a training contract/finished deviling before you have any chance of finding work abroad?

I'd be well up for moving abroad but if I'm not going to be staying in Ireland, would rather avoid the money involved in qualifying as a solicitor/barrister.

Jev/N · 20-02-2012, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Lockstep

For moving abroad, will a law degree be sufficient or would you need to have completed a training contract/finished deviling before you have any chance of finding work abroad?

I'd be well up for moving abroad but if I'm not going to be staying in Ireland, would rather avoid the money involved in qualifying as a solicitor/barrister.

Well, you'll have get a professional qualification somewhere, whether that be here or abroad.

A law degree would get you a number of jobs, or at least interviews, in other common law (and civil) jurisdictions, but obviously you'd need a solicitor/barrister qualification (be it Irish or domestic in whatever country you intend to work) to practice.

kronsington · 11-04-2012, 13:11

Hope you're all well. I am at a serious crossroads now. Will be qualified over the next few weeks and will be out of the office at the end of june. I am genuinely not sure if i want to remain in law at this point and think i need some time to think things through, clear my head and decide what i'd like to do next or what my options (if any) are. Ideally, I'd like to move abroad for 6/7 months, get a job and earn some cash for some possible travelling. Short term, if I could a job in OZ, Can that is law related or something off the back of the qualification, I would take it. Long term, I am not so sure. Any advice? As Ive said in this forum i am very much thinking bigger picture and whether there is a future in this. the money is terrible, the stress, pressure and everything else, really, right now do not feel worth it. Anyone in a similar situation or think I am talking complete nonsense?

hada · 11-04-2012, 14:18

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Originally Posted by kronsington

Hope you're all well. I am at a serious crossroads now. Will be qualified over the next few weeks and will be out of the office at the end of june. I am genuinely not sure if i want to remain in law at this point and think i need some time to think things through, clear my head and decide what i'd like to do next or what my options (if any) are. Ideally, I'd like to move abroad for 6/7 months, get a job and earn some cash for some possible travelling. Short term, if I could a job in OZ, Can that is law related or something off the back of the qualification, I would take it. Long term, I am not so sure. Any advice? As Ive said in this forum i am very much thinking bigger picture and whether there is a future in this. the money is terrible, the stress, pressure and everything else, really, right now do not feel worth it. Anyone in a similar situation or think I am talking complete nonsense?

Well, what type of practice did you train in? Commercial, criminal, general? Reputation of the firm you trained with?

If it was a big commercial firm, there might be jobs for you in Oz.

Consider looking into academia? Plenty of scope for travel abroad there.

kronsington · 11-04-2012, 14:46

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Originally Posted by hada

Well, what type of practice did you train in? Commercial, criminal, general? Reputation of the firm you trained with?

If it was a big commercial firm, there might be jobs for you in Oz.

Consider looking into academia? Plenty of scope for travel abroad there.

General Practice in Limerick- nowhere near on the level of the big commercial firms

Haven't considered academia but i guess it wouldn't hurt at this point

galwaybetty · 11-04-2013, 21:20

Kronsington, Im in a pretty similar situation too. Im in a general practice firm in County Dublin. While I am glad I got experience in Personal Injury, Crime, Family,Debt Collection, Licensing and Employment I have virtually no Conveyancing or Probate experience.

I have spoken to my boss and he has indicated to me that while they would like to keep me on, it would have to be on a month by month basis. I know I have no prospects in that particular firm but I would like to do some Conveyancing or Probate before I go elsewhere.

Re leaving the law :I love my job, love the people, but I am tired of panicking every time I go to the ATM.

I attended a careers workshop recently and Keith O Malley said not to leap into just any job, that you can paint yourself into a corner by going into a specialised area. Id like to stay in general practice, but I know the smaller firms are less likely to hire newly qualified solicitors!

Lots of my tutorial group in Blackhall are emigrating to the UK or the States. At least one of them is talking about leaving the law altogether to get a job that will actually pay him a decent wage. Ive been considering moving to the States to work as a paralegal to work in Intellectual Property or Medical Litigation. Ive also been thinking about working as inhouse counsel with an Insurance company.

Anyway, good to see someone else panicking, I was wondering if I was being overly pessimistic....

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Lockstep Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nottingham Posts: 8,394 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Politics	For moving abroad, will a law degree be sufficient or would you need to have completed a training contract/finished deviling before you have any chance of finding work abroad? I'd be well up for moving abroad but if I'm not going to be staying in Ireland, would rather avoid the money involved in qualifying as a solicitor/barrister.

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kronsington Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,109 Adverts \| Friends	Hope you're all well. I am at a serious crossroads now. Will be qualified over the next few weeks and will be out of the office at the end of june. I am genuinely not sure if i want to remain in law at this point and think i need some time to think things through, clear my head and decide what i'd like to do next or what my options (if any) are. Ideally, I'd like to move abroad for 6/7 months, get a job and earn some cash for some possible travelling. Short term, if I could a job in OZ, Can that is law related or something off the back of the qualification, I would take it. Long term, I am not so sure. Any advice? As Ive said in this forum i am very much thinking bigger picture and whether there is a future in this. the money is terrible, the stress, pressure and everything else, really, right now do not feel worth it. Anyone in a similar situation or think I am talking complete nonsense?

11-04-2013, 21:20	#51
galwaybetty Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 38 Adverts \| Friends	Kronsington, Im in a pretty similar situation too. Im in a general practice firm in County Dublin. While I am glad I got experience in Personal Injury, Crime, Family,Debt Collection, Licensing and Employment I have virtually no Conveyancing or Probate experience. I have spoken to my boss and he has indicated to me that while they would like to keep me on, it would have to be on a month by month basis. I know I have no prospects in that particular firm but I would like to do some Conveyancing or Probate before I go elsewhere. Re leaving the law :I love my job, love the people, but I am tired of panicking every time I go to the ATM. I attended a careers workshop recently and Keith O Malley said not to leap into just any job, that you can paint yourself into a corner by going into a specialised area. Id like to stay in general practice, but I know the smaller firms are less likely to hire newly qualified solicitors! Lots of my tutorial group in Blackhall are emigrating to the UK or the States. At least one of them is talking about leaving the law altogether to get a job that will actually pay him a decent wage. Ive been considering moving to the States to work as a paralegal to work in Intellectual Property or Medical Litigation. Ive also been thinking about working as inhouse counsel with an Insurance company. Anyway, good to see someone else panicking, I was wondering if I was being overly pessimistic....