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02-07-2011, 21:55   #1
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Should children be expected to care for their parents in old age?

With many of us living, or expecting to live, into old age, and the cost of caring for our elderly/pensions/nursing home care under debate, should today's generation be forced to provide room and board for their ageing parents?

Are the parents responsible for financially securing their elderly care/affairs? Is it the responsibility of the state to look after the elderly ,or is it a combination of responsibility between the parents and their children?

What do you think?
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02-07-2011, 22:03   #2
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Children should give their elderly parents everything they need. Don't rely on the state.

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If they paid taxes the state should shoulder some of the work. Childern should also play their part. No one loves you like your parents and you owe them for basically everything. I'd never see my auld ones stuck.
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02-07-2011, 22:11   #5
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Yes, who else will,

The state gets its money from the working generation. The other option would be take them out back and shoot them for squandering their money.
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Yep, that's why we're going to have 15 of them. Wife doesn't know this yet though
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If they paid taxes the state should shoulder some of the work. Childern should also play their part. No one loves you like your parents and you owe them for basically everything. I'd never see my auld ones stuck.
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I share the same opinion as pragmatic. Some of the responsibility lies with the state, some of it lies with the kids.
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02-07-2011, 22:17   #8
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The state should be responsible where the individuals cannot meet the cost from their own assets.

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No one loves you like your parents and you owe them for basically everything.
Generalise much ?

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In a way I'd love this.
I would get to treat my dad the way he treated me.
Unfortunately I don't think I have it in me to be that deliberately cruel though.

Anyway, I can see the 'for' side to this argument.
-To help those who brought you up when their time comes to be the ones needing looking after.
-To save on money
-To save on national tax (the little that goes to care of the elderly)
-To assist having a more functional, united society
-To ensure the elderly are not lonely, scared, unwell, vulnerable, easy targets for theft etc...

However it is not even remotely feasible.
(Where I say 'children', I mean the adult children)
-What about when the parents or children are estranged? (ill treatment, ethical issues, feuds, anything really)
-What if the parent left the family home and never knew the child?
-The children would need regular vetting and monitoring to ensure the parent was being cared for properly
-The children may be in a bad financial situation
-The children may have family, work, or other responsibilities that cannot be dropped
-The children may not have sufficient accommodation for the parent
-The child may be physically or mentally unwell or unfit to care for the parent

Oh there's loads more pro's and con's, but it is clear to me that it would never work on a practical level.
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02-07-2011, 22:24   #10
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It depends.

Parents who deserve it should be cared for.

Parents who don't should die as they lived.
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However it is not even remotely feasible.
You left out a few.

The kids live abroad
The kids died before their parents
The person in question never had kids
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Of course not! My mother constantly complains about how wrong it is that old people expect to be minded by their children. Some man she knows has taken six months unpaid leave to mind his mother...
I've already picked an old folks home for my parents
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Bring back the olden days when there was big families.
There was always someone there to do something...
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You left out a few.

The kids live abroad
The kids died before their parents
The person in question never had kids
That is why I also said the following...

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Oh there's loads more pro's and con's, but it is clear to me that it would never work on a practical level.
But yes, they are all extremely valid points.
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02-07-2011, 23:01   #15
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only if they want to and can do , not every one can provide propper care
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