[fitz0]

Originally Posted by Christ the Redeemer

Americas answer to everything is cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, it's been like that since the Reagan years. Hasn't worked yet.

It should come with a disclaimer. As in 'I'll cut taxes* whilst in office

*offer subject to terms and conditions. Only available to the rich, super rich, uber rich and members of the republican party. Taxes for the poor will rise.'

[joseph brand]

Originally Posted by Christ the Redeemer

Americas answer to everything is cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, it's been like that since the Reagan years. Hasn't worked yet.

AFAIK Americans abhor paying any taxes at all. They don't seem to understand that paying a little extra will enable them to have better services, i.e Healthcare.

So naturally the Presidential nominee will promise tax cuts in order to garner more votes. The voters aren't worried about the country needing a band-aid.

A vote for Romney seems to be a vote for the top 1%. But many Rep. voters are blinded by the fact that Romney is white and Obama isn't. I can't help but notice the very white crowds turning up to listen to Romney's pandering waffle.

[mikhail]

Originally Posted by joseph brand

AFAIK Americans abhor paying any taxes at all. They don't seem to understand that paying a little extra will enable them to have better services, i.e Healthcare.

Let's not be too quick to judge. Fianna Fail did something rather similar here until the chickens came home to roost.

[joseph brand]

A video on the Republican Voters. RepubliBliss.

[joseph brand]

Originally Posted by mikhail

Let's not be too quick to judge. Fianna Fail did something rather similar here until the chickens came home to roost.

In theory I'm correct. But, put a few gangsters in charge, they'll find ways to siphon the extra cash to their friends. They treat us like mushrooms. . . .

Truth is, a massive percentage of our population have zero interest in politics. Could we substitute religious education, or whatever it's called and Gaeilge classes, with a class on how politics works?

Rachel Maddow talks about how the GOP is upset over new health benefits for women. Why would women vote for Romney? Unless they are racists, I see no other reason. (What a terrible reason)

[jank]

Originally Posted by joseph brand

AFAIK Americans abhor paying any taxes at all. They don't seem to understand that paying a little extra will enable them to have better services, i.e Healthcare.

Ireland has more than doubled its Health care budget the past few years, has it provided better services? Americans want good services like all of us, they just don't want the government to use tax payers money to bank roll pork barrel projects that will get politicians re-elected. In europe we believe that government is always the best problem solver, not so in the US.

There is a lot wrong with the american system granted but lets not pretend that Ireland is any better now shall we?

Originally Posted by joseph brand

So naturally the Presidential nominee will promise tax cuts in order to garner more votes. The voters aren't worried about the country needing a band-aid

I can assure you that voters are very worried about the economy hence why there is worry of the $14 trillion deficit.

Originally Posted by joseph brand

A vote for Romney seems to be a vote for the top 1%. But many Rep. voters are blinded by the fact that Romney is white and Obama isn't. I can't help but notice the very white crowds turning up to listen to Romney's pandering waffle.

You know that is just lazy lazy populist crap. Yeap, the GOP hate black people! Good on ya!

[jank]

Originally Posted by joseph brand

Rachel Maddow talks about how the GOP is upset over new health benefits for women. Why would women vote for Romney? Unless they are racists, I see no other reason. (What a terrible reason)

I actually think you are taking the piss now.

[mikhail]

Originally Posted by jank

You know that is just lazy lazy populist crap. Yeap, the GOP hate black people! Good on ya!

You really think racism isn't an issue in the United States?

I don't see any point debating the matter with you. You have every right to your own opinion, not your own facts.

[jank]

Originally Posted by mikhail

You really think racism isn't an issue in the United States?

I don't see any point debating the matter with you. You have every right to your own opinion, not your own facts.

Now that is a very different question and not one put forward before. Yes, it is an issue in the US as in all countrys. However, I don't think it is confined only to the GOP where the ONLY reason to vote against Obama is due to the colour of his skin.

Do you honestly think that the every person who will vote for Romney will do so as suggested by Joesph Brand as he is white and not black? That puts the level of discussion right about at "Obama is a Muslim" and was "not born in the US". The far left in the US are just as bad as the far right with their deluded reality. Meanwhile back on planet earth we know they are both idiots.

If you don't want to debate the reality of the campaign and want discuss plain un-truths then off with you, but you are only fooling yourself. I was just calling Joesph out on it.

[Jernal]

In the state of Alabama interracial marriages only became in the year 2000. Even then over 40% of the voters voted against interracial marriages.
That's just off the top of my head. Depressing fact to remember, really.

So, at a guess, I'd say Obama isn't that popular in Alabama?

[magicbastarder]

'mitt romney and paul ryan' is an anagram of 'my ultimate ayn rand porn'

seriously.

[joseph brand]

Originally Posted by jank

Now that is a very different question and not one put forward before. Yes, it is an issue in the US as in all countrys. However, I don't think it is confined only to the GOP where the ONLY reason to vote against Obama is due to the colour of his skin.

Do you honestly think that the every person who will vote for Romney will do so as suggested by Joesph Brand as he is white and not black? That puts the level of discussion right about at "Obama is a Muslim" and was "not born in the US". The far left in the US are just as bad as the far right with their deluded reality. Meanwhile back on planet earth we know they are both idiots.

If you don't want to debate the reality of the campaign and want discuss plain un-truths then off with you, but you are only fooling yourself. I was just calling Joesph out on it.

But, the 'birthers' came about because they couldn't complain about the black man in the white house. There's plenty of GOP voters in the red states/ bible belt who think he's a muslim. You honestly think these voters are gonna vote for a supposed muslim? If my points sound crazy, that's because they reflect the mindset of a GOP voter.

BTW, what's your view on the Rep candidates, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum (lol), and Cain. Personally I thought they were abysmal. They all said that god told them to run for the office of the POTUS, and 'he' told each one that they would win.
Either:
God was joking, he's a kidder,
OR, They were telling bare faced lies. All of them.

[jank]

Originally Posted by joseph brand

But, the 'birthers' came about because they couldn't complain about the black man in the white house. There's plenty of GOP voters in the red states/ bible belt who think he's a muslim. You honestly think these voters are gonna vote for a supposed muslim? If my points sound crazy, that's because they reflect the mindset of a GOP voter.

First of all who gives a **** about birthers? The only one pedaling this **** is MSNBC lefty idiots and few right wing idiots/blogs. Do you see the similarities, they are both idiots no matter what side of the fence you are on.

Secondly, the only person bringing race into this is you. Do you think the extreme of one party is reflective of all or the majority as you have claimed recently? Do you think Rev. Wright is representative of the majority of democratic voters?


BTW, what's your view on the Rep candidates, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum (lol), and Cain. Personally I thought they were abysmal. They all said that god told them to run for the office of the POTUS, and 'he' told each one that they would win.
Either:
God was joking, he's a kidder,
OR, They were telling bare faced lies. All of them.

I didnt care for any of them. I was a fan of Ron Paul (whom you convieniantly left out) due to his common sense stance and liberalism. He will be remembered as the Goldwater of the 21st century.

Here is a post of mine from a year ago.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...7&postcount=10

Originally Posted by jank

Ron Paul is actually the only one there who is true to conservative beliefs. Newt is a conservative if you pay him enough. Romney just wants to be seen as conservative so get can the nomination. Bachman is an idiot who calls herself a tea party member yet wants to instill her own social conservatism on others. The rest are just fools or nobodies.

I am actually shocked at the low level of candidates on offer from the GOP. Obama was there for the kill. There is no way he should get another term but he will because the GOP are just intellectually retarded. Why is anti-intellectualism such a corner stone of the GOP.

All they want to talk about now is Iran and what they should do to stop them never mind how they are going to pay for it if they go to war again. Why do the GOP like war so much? Did they not learn their lesson in Iraq.

Christ, what the GOP should do is forget war and social conservatism for about 10 years. Fix the ****ing economy and stop the stupid ****ing games. Then they might have some bright young candidates in Washington.

Imagine if Hillary Clinton was a republican. She would be so much of a favorite for the presidency that Obama would probably not seek a 2nd term. Compare her to say Palin. I rest my case.

I too despair at the level of discourse sometimes by the GOP but I also despair at the 99%, occupy wall street crap that goes on. Doesn't mean i will stoop to the lowest common denominator no matter how easy that is for some people.

Neither am I a big fan of Obama who has been a massive disappointment. He seems totally disinterested in the job of POTUS. He offers no vision or true leadership of the executive branch of the US government, he gives congress far too much power.

Anyway its common knowledge (I think!) that the big players of the GOP are holding back till 2016 as they see Obama as too tough to beat. Hence why the field was so weak this time around.

[joseph brand]

Originally Posted by jank

I didnt care for any of them. I was a fan of Ron Paul (whom you convieniantly left out) due to his common sense stance and liberalism. He will be remembered as the Goldwater of the 21st century.

Here is a post of mine from a year ago.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...7&postcount=10



I too despair at the level of discourse sometimes by the GOP but I also despair at the 99%, occupy wall street crap that goes on. Doesn't mean i will stoop to the lowest common denominator no matter how easy that is for some people.

Neither am I a big fan of Obama who has been a massive disappointment. He seems totally disinterested in the job of POTUS. He offers no vision or true leadership of the executive branch of the US government, he gives congress far too much power.

Anyway its common knowledge (I think!) that the big players of the GOP are holding back till 2016 as they see Obama as too tough to beat. Hence why the field was so weak this time around.

I purposely omitted Ron Paul because he never mentioned being told by any 'higher power' to run for the office of POTUS. Whenever the talk at the table of the Republican Thanksgiving Dinner turned to some sort of religious tripe, Ron Paul looked exasperated and was the only to try to steer the conversation back to real issues, e.g. the closing of US military bases worldwide thus saving a substantial amount of money, perhaps even improve their reputation.

Obama hasn't been perfect, but he's no Bush! Plus, I'm not sure that Romney wouldn't be even worse than Bush. Obama has to thread carefully in his first term, what with him being the first black president and all. He may get to do more of what he really wants in his second term.

I do wonder though, about how much power the POTUS has. Is he being told what to do by the big banks, big pharma and large corps? You might remember Reagan being told to 'speed it up', by Don Regan.

[LittleBook]

Originally Posted by joseph brand

Why would women vote for Romney? Unless they are racists, I see no other reason. (What a terrible reason)

I often wonder this myself.

But when I see women like Ann Coulter and some of the ladies mentioned in this thread on TV ... or I learned that a woman sponsored a bill which would force women seeking abortions to go through an invasive transvaginal ultrasound ... and that another woman sponsored a bill which would make it legal for employers to fire an employee who uses the contraceptives available to them under their medcial plans for birth control (rather than a medical condition like pcos) ... or if I consider the many women out there who are opposed to same-sex marriage/contraception/abortion/proper sex education ... and I realise (to my horror) that there is a woman (or two?) out there who is actually prepared to sleep with Rush Limbaugh ... I just have to admit to myself that many, many women share Romney's views unfortunately.