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24-06-2011, 11:50   #1
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New cocker spaniel puppy whines all night...help!!

I bought an american cocker spaniel 12 week old puppy yesterday. I understand that he has just been taken away from his mother and siblings and will be scared and alone for the first few nights. Last night i left him alone in his basket and he barked and whined. In the end I felt bad for the neighbours so I brought his basket next to my bed and he slept all night there. I don't want to ruin him like this as I know we will have to leave him alone for a while at some point. Has anybody had any experience with spaniel puppies. How long do they whine for until they get used to being on their own? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
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Ok, ill say this, you just have to be tough and ride it out for a few nights. Thats the only way this pup will learn to be on its own at night.

By bringing it upstairs, it has learned, i whine, i get attention.

I suggest getting a crate and using it as your pups bed.

Tire the puppy out just before bed time, make sure it has done its business etc just before you put it to bed, then leave a small treat with it and just leave the pup in the kitchen or whereever you want it to sleep.

But if you are crate training you will have to get up during the night to let it out to the toilet as it cannot hold it in all night in the crate.

Dogs will only whine as long as they are getting the attention from it, so start as you mean to go on. It could take a night, it could take 3 nights, all dogs are different, but you have to be tough and not give in, its the only way.

But if you really tire the pup out before bed time it will help.

Also try leaving a radio on low for them too, it might help.
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24-06-2011, 14:46   #3
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definitely +1 for Andrea's comment

Your pup is going to have lots of energy and as it gets a few months older its energy levels are going to grow and grow, a friend of mine has a cocker and we are always comparing the energy levels of his and mine. That said at 12 weeks it shouldnt take much to tire him out

It should however not take too long for your pup to realise he is safe on his own and that his bed/cage is a safe place to be on his own. My pup took a bit longer than most I think because we baby him the whole time sometimes when we arrive in from work I just want to go to bed but cant because he will bounce himself off every wall in the kitchen unless he gets walked!!

Anyway... Best of luck with your pup and if you need any help or advice everyone on here is always only more than happy to help Post some pics of your new addition!!
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Ok, ill say this, you just have to be tough and ride it out for a few nights. Thats the only way this pup will learn to be on its own at night.

By bringing it upstairs, it has learned, i whine, i get attention.

I suggest getting a crate and using it as your pups bed.

Tire the puppy out just before bed time, make sure it has done its business etc just before you put it to bed, then leave a small treat with it and just leave the pup in the kitchen or whereever you want it to sleep.

But if you are crate training you will have to get up during the night to let it out to the toilet as it cannot hold it in all night in the crate.

Dogs will only whine as long as they are getting the attention from it, so start as you mean to go on. It could take a night, it could take 3 nights, all dogs are different, but you have to be tough and not give in, its the only way.

But if you really tire the pup out before bed time it will help.

Also try leaving a radio on low for them too, it might help.
thankyou so much, i will try this. I have left the pup in the downstairs toilet for 1 hour today with his bed, his bowl and a pee pee pad, also a few toys. when he went quiet for more than ten mins i went in and praised him. I am going to do this tonight too when he goes to bed. am I doing right?
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Although you have the right idea I think the toilet space is far too small! If the pup gets used to being on his own he will still not sleep all night, he will want to play with his toys.. running around and jumping on them because they might get away

Try if you can cordon off an area in the kitchen with chairs or something like that
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OP - have a cocker spaniel.... they are fab dogs - congrats...

But its only been the first night... your dog has just been seperated from its mother / other pups... so they are bound to whinge... my cocker creied, howled, dug at the kitchen door for 2.5 months... i kid you not...

firstly the down stairs toilet area is far too small... leave your dog in the kitchen, with his toys, maybe a luke warm hot water bottle... and try leaving the radio on low.... as the other posters you have to cruel to be kind... once you put him to bed... DONT go back down to him... also play with him before bed it will knacker him out!

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Not already suggested but you could call into your neighbours to explain the situation and to let them know that you are trying to resolve the whining.
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A bit confused


Sorry OP for this minor hijack.

Andreac recommended a crate, which would be relatively small?
Then Garkane suggested that the loo was too small - ((but is bigger than the crate, yes/no?)(and was thanked by Andreac) )- Then Cocker5 suggested the kitchen - bigger again

Sorry if I'm being dense.
Which is best?


Just to clarify - getting a new dog on Thursday and was going to crate her but now I dunno
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you deffo have to be strong and not bring her to bed with you. my friend got a jrt just before christmas, and he was a complete baby about it. could not handle listening to her whinge (the last dog he had had was when he was a kid and hadn't done the parenting bit so hadn't a clue) and no matter what i said he couldn't help himself so he took her up to bed with him. ok fair enough if he is happy for the dog to sleep on his bed. but he has babied her to the point if you go out of the room and shut her in she will throw a strop. she won't be left on her own to go out.

and he is STILL as bad. he still thinks he can't go out for an hour or two and leave her unless there is someone to mind her. i cannot get through his thick skull
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Sorry OP for this minor hijack.

Andreac recommended a crate, which would be relatively small?
Then Garkane suggested that the loo was too small - ((but is bigger than the crate, yes/no?)(and was thanked by Andreac) )- Then Cocker5 suggested the kitchen - bigger again

Sorry if I'm being dense.
Which is best?


Just to clarify - getting a new dog on Thursday and was going to crate her but now I dunno
Best to put the crate in the busiest room in your house. Long as its big enough for the dog to stand up and turn around without hitting the sides too much, its big enough. In fact if the crate is too big it might lead to accidents of the pee variety. Saying that, I bought a crate thats big enough for 2 fully grown GSDs (I only have 1) and Ive never had an issue. They dont need a big room around them when they're in the crate.
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28-06-2011, 15:09   #11
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Thanks Vai

Yes, that's what I thought about the crate.

I'm really just more curious about what looked* like conflicting advice by the same posters.



*Looked like that to me
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I think andrea was talking about crate training and garkane was talking about a no crate situation (correct me if Im wrong). There are differing opinions on it but I would definitely recommend a crate from the first day u get the dog.
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Sorry OP for this minor hijack.

Andreac recommended a crate, which would be relatively small?
Then Garkane suggested that the loo was too small - ((but is bigger than the crate, yes/no?)(and was thanked by Andreac) )- Then Cocker5 suggested the kitchen - bigger again

Sorry if I'm being dense.
Which is best?


Just to clarify - getting a new dog on Thursday and was going to crate her but now I dunno
Hi Ruben, both myself and Andrea would be of the same opinion I think. My view on the down stairs bathroom as a bad idea is based on the fact that the puppy will want to play at night when your sleeping.

I would however recommend a crate as toilet training aid they are fantastic (not that i used it ) kind of contradicting my own ideas I know but I just see the bathroom as a very secluded place where the pup will not have any interaction at all as Vai said any stories I've heard about using the crate have been good.

This all said every pup/dog is different. and yours may not like the crate. If you do get a crate, make sure its big enough for the dog when it is fully grown then all you need to do for when it is still a pup is use a board to make the size smaller to suit the pup. The reason and thinking behind this is that the pup/dog will not want to soil where it is sleeping!! Be prepared to get up several times during the night to let your new addition out to pee then as the weeks progress it will get longer between toilet times, eventually lasting all night.

At the minute my rottie pup 9months old lasts all night most of the time, sometimes he will wee once and never does his #2 inside anymore thank god.

Patience is the biggest word when toilet training. When its toilet time try using a word when you want your pup to go when you bring it out, and lots of praise once the job is done, I simply say go wee's and it works great if I'm rushing out and need him to go before I leave him in the house for a few hours.


Best of luck and I hope this has clarified it up a bit.
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I have a King Charles spaniel who cried all night when I got him first, he slept on a little dog bed and did his business on the kitchen floor every night. Someone told me pups have no bladder control until they are 12 weeks so training before that is pointless, once he was 12 weeks I got a crate in Argos for him. It was a God send, he slept in it all night without any whinging or crying and he never did his business in it, he wouldn't go into it voluntarily at the beginning, but with a bit of praise he soon got used to it. I let him outside first thing in the morning and he pretty much trained himself after that. He is quite happy now to be left alone. After a few months when I was confident he was house trained I didn't put him in the crate/cage anymore at night and he sleeps quietly all night on the sofa.
Good luck with your wee pup
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Hi, I have been looking for an American Cocker Spaniel for years. I need a little friend for my Golden Retriever and I have been in touch with the IKC and they tell me that they are quiet rare. Could you please tell me where you got your little guy? I hope your little puppy has settled in to his new home
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