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mustang shelly · 23-06-2011, 16:04

Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me find pictures of the ships that the Irish pirate queen sailed. I've only ever managed to find pics of herself and of her castle. Even just the names of them would be great. Thanks in advance!

PatsytheNazi · 23-06-2011, 16:09

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Originally Posted by mustang shelly

Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me find pictures of the ships that the Irish pirate queen sailed. I've only ever managed to find pics of herself and of her castle. Even just the names of them would be great. Thanks in advance!

I believe she had 8 ships at one point.

mustang shelly · 23-06-2011, 16:14

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I knew that she had quite a few but I'm having no luck finding their names or pics of them. Usually when I do a google search I only come across Blackbeards ship, the Black Pearl, etc. I'm just very interested in her story

ShatterResistant · 23-06-2011, 16:16

My cousins are related to her! No word of a lie, I'll give them a shout and get back to you!

InTheTrees · 23-06-2011, 16:17

There's a grace o'malley museum isnt there? In Mayo I think?

mustang shelly · 23-06-2011, 16:23

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Originally Posted by InTheTrees

There's a grace o'malley museum isnt there? In Mayo I think?

Yeah I just googled it there. I must take a trip up there some day

InTheTrees · 23-06-2011, 16:32

I've wondered about it too. We tend to think of her in a Big Pirate ship like the black pearl, but in reality she was probably more likely to be in something like a galway bay hooker(yes, that the right name!).

Its was probably more practical to have a few smaller faster boats than anything big and unwieldy.

But she also carried on legitimate maritime business didnt she? So she may have had basic cargo ships as well.

It would be interesting to ask this question in a boating forum perhaps?

mustang shelly · 23-06-2011, 16:35

I know her first husbands family were in the maritime business and that is how she came to have a ship. I've looked up his family but couldn't really find anything on them

**byhookorbycrook** · 23-06-2011, 16:37

She was supposed to have slept with the rope of her fleet around her ankle. Always thought it was fanciful, but if you visit Rockfleet castle(towerhouse really), you'll see it was actually very possible.

http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=h...ed=0CCcQ9QEwBw

**convert** · 23-06-2011, 16:48

There's a book written by Anne Chambers about Grace O'Malley, entitled Granuaile: Ireland's Pirate Queen, c. 1530-1603. It contains quite a few illustrations, including a galley from 1590 and an impression of what Grace's galley would have looked like (c. p. 50, if you're using the 2003 edition).

**convert** · 23-06-2011, 16:54

Oh, there's also a family tree on p. 179 of the same edition, and some information regarding her first husband's (O'Flaherty) family can be found in the 'Articles of Interrgatory' from p. 186.

The book, which isn't too expensive (under €20 if I remember correctly), is easy to read and should give you more info. about both her ships and husband(s), as well as about Grace.

voter1983 · 23-06-2011, 20:30

I read another book called Grania a while back it's more of a novelised account of her life but very interesting none the less.

pinkypinky · 26-06-2011, 11:17

TG4 did a documentary a while back on her exploring the myth vs the actual truth about her. It was really interesting but I don't remember them mentioning an actual names of ships.

nuac · 21-04-2012, 19:00

I believe she would have used boat similar to Galway Hooker - well ballasted to withstand Atlantic gales, gaff sail which could be quickly lowered when wind rose

franc 91 · 25-04-2012, 10:54

As far as I know there aren't any contemporary portraits of her - I've found a pdf file for schools where this question is asked. The nearest thing they have is a picture of Maude Burke her great-great grandaughter. They have artist's impressions of her story.
google docs - Corel Office Document - Should we call Grace O'Malley a pirate? (Ireland in Schools - English and Irish history for primary schools - Birmingham Pilot scheme 2008)

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mustang shelly Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cork Posts: 1,531 Adverts \| Friends	Grace O' Malley Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me find pictures of the ships that the Irish pirate queen sailed. I've only ever managed to find pics of herself and of her castle. Even just the names of them would be great. Thanks in advance!

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23-06-2011, 16:14	#3
mustang shelly Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cork Posts: 1,531 Adverts \| Friends	Thanks for the reply. Yeah I knew that she had quite a few but I'm having no luck finding their names or pics of them. Usually when I do a google search I only come across Blackbeards ship, the Black Pearl, etc. I'm just very interested in her story

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ShatterResistant Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The D�ise boy! Posts: 135 Adverts \| Friends	My cousins are related to her! No word of a lie, I'll give them a shout and get back to you!

23-06-2011, 16:17	#5
InTheTrees Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,528 Adverts \| Friends	There's a grace o'malley museum isnt there? In Mayo I think?

23-06-2011, 16:32	#7
InTheTrees Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,528 Adverts \| Friends	I've wondered about it too. We tend to think of her in a Big Pirate ship like the black pearl, but in reality she was probably more likely to be in something like a galway bay hooker(yes, that the right name!). Its was probably more practical to have a few smaller faster boats than anything big and unwieldy. But she also carried on legitimate maritime business didnt she? So she may have had basic cargo ships as well. It would be interesting to ask this question in a boating forum perhaps?

23-06-2011, 16:35	#8
mustang shelly Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cork Posts: 1,531 Adverts \| Friends	I know her first husbands family were in the maritime business and that is how she came to have a ship. I've looked up his family but couldn't really find anything on them

23-06-2011, 16:37	#9
byhookorbycrook Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,163 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Carlow, Primary & Pre School	She was supposed to have slept with the rope of her fleet around her ankle. Always thought it was fanciful, but if you visit Rockfleet castle(towerhouse really), you'll see it was actually very possible. http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=h...ed=0CCcQ9QEwBw

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convert Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: everywhere and anywhere Posts: 5,625 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Equestrian, Greyhound Racing, Horse Racing	There's a book written by Anne Chambers about Grace O'Malley, entitled Granuaile: Ireland's Pirate Queen, c. 1530-1603. It contains quite a few illustrations, including a galley from 1590 and an impression of what Grace's galley would have looked like (c. p. 50, if you're using the 2003 edition).

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convert Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: everywhere and anywhere Posts: 5,625 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Equestrian, Greyhound Racing, Horse Racing	Oh, there's also a family tree on p. 179 of the same edition, and some information regarding her first husband's (O'Flaherty) family can be found in the 'Articles of Interrgatory' from p. 186. The book, which isn't too expensive (under €20 if I remember correctly), is easy to read and should give you more info. about both her ships and husband(s), as well as about Grace.

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voter1983 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 43 Adverts \| Friends	I read another book called Grania a while back it's more of a novelised account of her life but very interesting none the less.

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pinkypinky Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,507 Adverts \| Friends	TG4 did a documentary a while back on her exploring the myth vs the actual truth about her. It was really interesting but I don't remember them mentioning an actual names of ships.

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nuac Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: The real west. Posts: 2,017 Adverts \| Friends	I believe she would have used boat similar to Galway Hooker - well ballasted to withstand Atlantic gales, gaff sail which could be quickly lowered when wind rose

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franc 91 Closed Account Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 403 Adverts \| Friends	As far as I know there aren't any contemporary portraits of her - I've found a pdf file for schools where this question is asked. The nearest thing they have is a picture of Maude Burke her great-great grandaughter. They have artist's impressions of her story. google docs - Corel Office Document - Should we call Grace O'Malley a pirate? (Ireland in Schools - English and Irish history for primary schools - Birmingham Pilot scheme 2008)