[sundula]

Originally Posted by ctrl-alt-delete

Roberts can still do a job, but not on his own up there, it is futile when that happens. He is still handy to have as a target man and is still very good at bringing others into play.

As I said above though, I'd much rather Goodwillie starts up front against Fulham, he is well able for it from what I have seen so far.

As for the money, they have never came out and said they would be spending all they get in have they? I think it is very naive to think it is all available for Kean, when what we have heard is that there has been a renegotiation of terms with the bank. Venkys have not come in, wiped the slate, and started fresh.

Emerton has had his best days, and nobody should begrudge him the chance to go back home to Sydney. The less said about Diouf the better. Kalinic should never have been let get to the stage where he wanted to go, he was easily the best striker at the club, but for some reason Kean and Allardyce never gave him a decent run at it.

Dann would be a fantastic signing, but I won't get carried away with the story until we see or hear something official.

I'll be dissapointed if we don't get another striker and a defender at least in by close of business Wednesday.

Emerton has plenty in him, alot more to offer than Roberts and Diouf. Diouf is a poisonous player who is very hot and cold and I cant imagine him contributing to a team atmosphere or being supportive of younger players or Kean for that matter. Emerton is a lose, Roberts wouldnt be. I think Roberts should always start on the bench unless every other forward player at the club is out injured.

[Lemlin]

Originally Posted by ctrl-alt-delete

Roberts can still do a job, but not on his own up there, it is futile when that happens. He is still handy to have as a target man and is still very good at bringing others into play.

As I said above though, I'd much rather Goodwillie starts up front against Fulham, he is well able for it from what I have seen so far.

As for the money, they have never came out and said they would be spending all they get in have they? I think it is very naive to think it is all available for Kean, when what we have heard is that there has been a renegotiation of terms with the bank. Venkys have not come in, wiped the slate, and started fresh.

Emerton has had his best days, and nobody should begrudge him the chance to go back home to Sydney. The less said about Diouf the better. Kalinic should never have been let get to the stage where he wanted to go, he was easily the best striker at the club, but for some reason Kean and Allardyce never gave him a decent run at it.

Dann would be a fantastic signing, but I won't get carried away with the story until we see or hear something official.

I'll be dissapointed if we don't get another striker and a defender at least in by close of business Wednesday.

I'd disagree on Roberts. He's a poor player who isn't PL quality. He's good to lump the ball up to, hope it hits off him and lands at the feet of someone who has a bit of skill. A poor man's Emile Heskey to be honest.

I'm not asking for it all to be available for Kean. What I am saying is that 26 million has come in through two transfers. Mame Briam Diouf, Jermaine Jones and Roque Santa Cruz have been allowed back to their clubs so are also off the wage bill. Emerton is off the wage bill. Three players have been brought in. Goodwillie, Petrovic and Vuckevic. I'd be shocked if any of those are on a high wage and I'd also doubt that the sum of all their transfer fees cost much more than the 6 million that we received for Kalinic. Therefore there should be some cash there for the manager to spend IMO.

Emerton may have had his best days behind him but I'd still prefer to see him at right back rather than Salgado, who's best days are a few years behind him. Diouf may be controversial but he has PL experience and I'd prefer to see him up front than Jason Roberts. He has more ability in his little toenail than Roberts.

I'd be very surprised if we get a defender and striker in to be honest. My gut is telling me that our transfer activity is over.

[Lemlin]

Ibisevic deal is off according to Hoffenheim. Unless Kean can pull something out of the bag today it looks like we may be stuck with Roberts up front.

[kojack]

Just on sky sports news the tranfer of scott dann is subject to Samba not being allowed to leave the club. Could be a nice centre half combination.

[sundula]

less than 12hours to go and its all gone very very quiet. Dann wont be enough on his own.

[Lemlin]

Originally Posted by sundula

less than 12hours to go and its all gone very very quiet. Dann wont be enough on his own.

I'd agree tbh. It'll be good to have some cover but I'm happy enough with a central back two of Samba and Givet with Nelsen providing cover.

Can Dann play right back? A right back is badly needed to replace Salgado, unless Kean is planning that Ribeiro will move in there.

Midfielders/strikers have to be our priority at present. I can't understand why we aren't in for Wright Phillips. Yet another playing living in Manchester who wouldn't even have to move house to come to us.

[Lemlin]

BBC Sport:

BBC Africa Sport understands that Yakubu will be joining Blackburn from Everton today. The striker is on his way to Ewood Park as we speak.

I'd welcome his signing at the minute to be honest. Things are that desperate.

[sundula]

As I said previously, we may not have cash for wages or fees but what we can offer any player is a realistic chance of playing regular first team premiership football. There are alot of players, particular at City that should be interested in that.

[sundula]

Dann deal done Not sure about the Yak, but we still have Samba, when he didnt move this window maybe he will stay for a few years and give us a base with Dann.

[kojack]

Yak deal done and Hoilett new contract, delighted he signed a new deal but hopefully there isn't a release clause like phil jones deal

[Lemlin]

Transfers In:
Myles Anderson - minmal fee
David Goodwillie - 2.8 million
Radoslav Petrovic - 2.7 million
Bruno Ribeiro - free
Simon Vukcevic - 2 million
Yakubu - 1.5 million
Scott Dann - 7.7 million
Jordan Slew - 1 million
Total spent - 17.7 million

Transfers Out:
Frank Fielding - 0.4 million
Phil Jones - 20 million
Benjani - free
Nikola Kalinic - 6.5 million
Brett Emerton - undisclosed
Keith Andrews - out on loan
El Hadj Diouf - not given a squad number
Mame Briam Diouf - back to club.
Jermaine Jones - back to club.
Roque Santa Cruz - back to club.
Total in - 27 million at least

So, the spending is now over and I'd be interested in hearing people's opinions. We've signed one established PL player in Dann. Yakubu has been off form for a number of seasons so I don't think he can be described as established. Goodwillie, Petrovic, Vukcevic and Ribeiro are all unproven in the PL and I'd be happy to see their signings if it had been alongside some established PL players who could make an instant impact on the squad. We don't have time for these lads to be finding their feet.

My one other problem is that we signed a central defender for 7.7 million. I think that money would have been better spent on a midfielder or striker. Peter Crouch went to Stoke. Sean Wright Phillips went to QPR. Darren Gibson could have been available for 3-4 million at United. Wilson Palacios was available.

Mick McCarthy went out and bought Roger Johnson and Jamie O'Hara. Just two established PL players and look at the turnaround in Wolves' fortunes so far. I really think that 3 to 4 key signings could have moved Rovers on and Kean has failed to do that.

[sundula]

Originally Posted by Lemlin

Transfers In:
Myles Anderson - minmal fee
David Goodwillie - 2.8 million
Radoslav Petrovic - 2.7 million
Bruno Ribeiro - free
Simon Vukcevic - 2 million
Yakubu - 1.5 million
Scott Dann - 7.7 million
Jordan Slew - 1 million
Total spent - 17.7 million

Transfers Out:
Frank Fielding - 0.4 million
Phil Jones - 20 million
Benjani - free
Nikola Kalinic - 6.5 million
Brett Emerton - undisclosed
Keith Andrews - out on loan
El Hadj Diouf - not given a squad number
Mame Briam Diouf - back to club.
Jermaine Jones - back to club.
Roque Santa Cruz - back to club.
Total in - 27 million at least

So, the spending is now over and I'd be interested in hearing people's opinions. We've signed one established PL player in Dann. Yakubu has been off form for a number of seasons so I don't think he can be described as established. Goodwillie, Petrovic, Vukcevic and Ribeiro are all unproven in the PL and I'd be happy to see their signings if it had been alongside some established PL players who could make an instant impact on the squad. We don't have time for these lads to be finding their feet.

My one other problem is that we signed a central defender for 7.7 million. I think that money would have been better spent on a midfielder or striker. Peter Crouch went to Stoke. Sean Wright Phillips went to QPR. Darren Gibson could have been available for 3-4 million at United. Wilson Palacios was available.

Mick McCarthy went out and bought Roger Johnson and Jamie O'Hara. Just two established PL players and look at the turnaround in Wolves' fortunes so far. I really think that 3 to 4 key signings could have moved Rovers on and Kean has failed to do that.

I would have liked to see an established prem central midfielder and right winger and right back. But no way would I pay anything for Darren Gibson, when you look at Stoke then Palacios would have been great signing for us. SWP would have been nice too. I am happy we got Dann and kept Samba and delighted Hoillett signed a new deal. Of the signings outside of Dann I would hold out some hope for Goodwillie but its really early for all these guys and none have premiership experience except the Yak. The Yak is interesting because if he gets fit and motivated he could suit us and could be a really handful and set pieces with Samba. Im upset Jones left early. Thought we might get another season or two from him but you cant turn down MU, and I think they got Jones for a bargain. Chelsea are going to kick themselves as they watch old man Terry struggle around the pitch this season. Jones will be twice the footballer Terry is. Arsenal missed the boat with Jones too. Sad to see Emerton go, particularlly with the right back position.
I thought we might have gotten Mame Briam Diouf back on loan, cant see him getting into the united team much and he would give us great cover across the front.

[jrochie]

I'm happy we got Dann, Yakubu well the jury is out on him but we'll see. Whats this other guy we are supposed to have got Jordan Slew like? have to admit I've never seen him play.

Im quite surprised we didnt pull in a few loan signs to be honest, I think Gibson could do a job for us in the centre but wouldn't have spent money on him. What are our squad numbers like now?

I think ill reserve judgement on on the team again for a few weeks, end of september will be very telling. I'm disgusted with whats happened at the club in the last 12 months and don't think Kean or Venkys should be let anywhere near Ewood Park, but if it wasnt for the bizarre nature of the Everton game we might actually have won. We dont have to many away on international duty so its a perfect time for the team to get to know each other and get playing as a team.

[ctrl-alt-delete]

Originally Posted by Lemlin

So, the spending is now over and I'd be interested in hearing people's opinions. We've signed one established PL player in Dann. Yakubu has been off form for a number of seasons so I don't think he can be described as established. Goodwillie, Petrovic, Vukcevic and Ribeiro are all unproven in the PL and I'd be happy to see their signings if it had been alongside some established PL players who could make an instant impact on the squad. We don't have time for these lads to be finding their feet.

My one other problem is that we signed a central defender for 7.7 million. I think that money would have been better spent on a midfielder or striker. Peter Crouch went to Stoke. Sean Wright Phillips went to QPR. Darren Gibson could have been available for 3-4 million at United. Wilson Palacios was available.

Mick McCarthy went out and bought Roger Johnson and Jamie O'Hara. Just two established PL players and look at the turnaround in Wolves' fortunes so far. I really think that 3 to 4 key signings could have moved Rovers on and Kean has failed to do that.

So you have ruled Yakubu out of the running to be included as one of your established Premier League players, despite him being younger than Peter Crouch and having a better Premier League goal scoring record than him.

Ok, Yakubu has not set the world alight in the past few seasons, and had to be shipped out to Leicester, but Crouch has only scored 12 Premier League goals for Spurs. You seem to indicate above that you would rather the money we spent on Dann was spent on someone like Crouch? Seriously?

Formica 23
Rochina 20
Myles Anderson 20
David Goodwillie 22
Radoslav Petrovic 22
Bruno Ribeiro 28
Simon Vukcevic 25
Yakubu 28
Scott Dann 24
Jordan Slew 18

Looking above, it is clear the club want to invest the majority of their money on younger players. It is the best business model for the club in my opinion, and one which offers the best value for money.

Moving onto Wolves, you are really putting the signing of "just two" established Premier League players down to the turnaround in their fortunes? Let us ignore the fact that O'Hara was there for 14 of their games last season. They have played 3 games so far this season, winning 2 and drawing 1, last season they won 1 and drew 2 of their opening 3. Not a huge difference to be honest.

Wolves This Season

Blackburn, Away, Won 2-1
Fulham, Home, Won 2-0
Villa, Away, Drew 0-0

Wolves Last Season

Blackburn, Away, Lost 3-2
Fulham, Home, Drew 1-1
Villa, Away, Won 1-0

Even if we break it down into who they played, you can't really describe it as a change of fortunes, especially based on the signing of "just two" established Premier League players. It is laughable to be honest.

We know you hate Kean, we know you hate Venky's, we know you want them both out, you are not alone in that regard, but you really don't have to come up with drivel like you have above to try and justify it all.

I know it is each to their own and all that, but i myself would rather money be spent on decent young prospects like most of it has been. I am especially delighted that the money was spent on Dann than over the hill established Premier League players like Crouch or Shaun Wright-Phillips.

[sundula]

If Crouch had of arrived I would have taken him but his fee and wages dont justify what he offers. If he was any other nationality apart english he would have been worth about 3mil max.

I am prepared to give Kean time but I wouldnt be confident of out come.