[Gee-22]

Originally Posted by rookie_boarder

it will be - unless "operational procedures dictate"...
besides - if recruitment does begin in 2013 - the current list will be obsolete...
i feel you- i was 25 - 30...

I still have some small piece of hope that they will take another intake or two from the current list before it become obsolete at the end of the year.

I am high up the list also, with vetting & medical completed and passed.

[gigity gigity]

Take it your vetting hadnt cleared yet Rookie?

Gee what is it that makes you think they will take more from our pool have you some information you would like to share dude?

[quickcatch]

I think you are living in dreamland if you think there will be anymore intakes prior to another campaign.

As far as the new police college/fire college goes it sounds like it is going to be pretty basic! They have the money to build a shell but thats about it.

[kitchensink]

Just read on the BBC website that Boris Johnston said that it isn't a good time to be cutting police budgets. I doubt this would really cause the government to rethink their policy and get some recruitment for the PSNI.

[Gee-22]

Originally Posted by gigity gigity

Take it your vetting hadnt cleared yet Rookie?

Gee what is it that makes you think they will take more from our pool have you some information you would like to share dude?

I'm basing my slim hope on a few thinks.

1) we all know they need more officers now, so to think they could wait to October 2013 to have new recruits in training seems hard to believe.

2) they have gone to the cost of completing vetting/ medicals etc for some of us who are next on the merit list.

3) although they have moved a number of staff on in g'ville there are still some left training the 1or2 squads that are in g'ville. So they could stay on a train 1or2 new intakes when the latest intakes pass out very soon.

4) the Dear John letter that they sent us left the door ajar. If there was definitely not going to be any more intakes they would have simply said so.

5) those of us that have been around long enough know there is nothing straight forward about this proccess. And surprise can come when you least expect them.

So if a blow in () wants to say I'm living in a dreamland that's ok. But I'm a glass half full kind of person, and I still look at the positives going for us.

[Delancey]

Originally Posted by Gee-22

I'm basing my slim hope on a few thinks.

1) we all know they need more officers now, so to think they could wait to October 2013 to have new recruits in training seems hard to believe.

2) they have gone to the cost of completing vetting/ medicals etc for some of us who are next on the merit list.

3) although they have moved a number of staff on in g'ville there are still some left training the 1or2 squads that are in g'ville. So they could stay on a train 1or2 new intakes when the latest intakes pass out very soon.

4) the Dear John letter that they sent us left the door ajar. If there was definitely not going to be any more intakes they would have simply said so.

5) those of us that have been around long enough know there is nothing straight forward about this proccess. And surprise can come when you least expect them.

So if a blow in () wants to say I'm living in a dreamland that's ok. But I'm a glass half full kind of person, and I still look at the positives going for us.

You do make a few valid points Gee but the latest information I have is that there will be no more intakes and the training staff in Garnerville will be re-deployed to other duties when the current intake has finished.

It would be nice to think there was a chance this situation may change but I have to say that everything points to a lenghty recruitment freeze .
Though point 5 is so very true.....

[Goonerdee]

They mentioned the new Training centre at Desertcreat yesterday on the news. Construction is to begin next year.

[Delancey]

Today saw the Attestation / Passing Out of the March intake which you will recall was a fairly ' largeish ' group.
Alas all the talk at the moment apparently is about the fact that todays parade was the last one Garnerville will see and that the next Attestation will be taking place in Desertcreat .
Training staff are to be redeployed I'm told.
Everything points to nothing happening on recruitment for a long time

[DesertCreat_15]

Originally Posted by Delancey

Everything points to nothing happening on recruitment for a long time

Yep, the "" pretty much sums it up perfectly, personally taking a guess, I imagine around 2015 is when the ball will start rolling again (all limbs and extremities crossed) hopefully DesertCreat will be pumping fresh police, firefighters and prison officers off the production lines no later than that !

Speaking of DesertCreat, some of ye fellow hopefuls mightn't have seen the plans for it yet !

Linky, click on the white arrows on the edge of the pic for more depictions
Found an aerial layout during the week, cant find it now though

Few More

[Corruptable]

Surely with officers leaving with the threat of dissidents and some natural wastage, there will have to be some level of recruitment in 2012/2013?

There is an abundance of willing and skilled individuals waiting, so I see no reason why the "doomsday" scernario would have to involve the requisition of other forces from within the UK. Obviously political reasons would rule out assistance from AGS, but the other political irony I've found in the South is a number of young supporters of Sinn Fein who would sign up to serve in the PSNI in either reserve of full time capacity!

It's amazing what time can do.

[Delancey]

The things is that natural wastage ( mainly retirement ) rates are and will be low for some years to come. Between heavy recruitment the last 10 years and heavy retirement on Patten packages the age profile is quite low.

[gigity gigity]

Im not sure if there are many or indeed any officers leaving due to dissidents. It actually appears that they are more determined to stay going by previous conversations etc on here. The thing that may make people want to leave is any pay freezes loss of double time or pension issues, as at the minute I'm led to believe its quite generous. Although since theres bugger all jobs out there I would think people would just suck it up!

I sometimes wonder if anybody ever thought about what would happen concerning future recruitment into the police for those people turning 18 now who would love to be in the job as I'm sure they were aware that future recruitment would be very limited.

[Bottle_of_Smoke]

Originally Posted by Corruptable

Surely with officers leaving with the threat of dissidents and some natural wastage, there will have to be some level of recruitment in 2012/2013?

There is an abundance of willing and skilled individuals waiting, so I see no reason why the "doomsday" scernario would have to involve the requisition of other forces from within the UK. Obviously political reasons would rule out assistance from AGS, but the other political irony I've found in the South is a number of young supporters of Sinn Fein who would sign up to serve in the PSNI in either reserve of full time capacity!

It's amazing what time can do.

I don't think many will leave over "dissidents". They had to be aware when signing up. Also I think dissidents are winding down big time. Call me cynical but there were a lot more attacks when MI5 budgets were being decided. Compared to 2010 there's been nowhere near the intensity of attacks in the last year

Also I read some republican websites. There's a certain amount of people who see nothing morally wrong with attacks on soldiers or psni officers; however the vast majority of them are condemning dissident actions as pointless and counter productive. And they themselves are only a minority in the greater nationalist community. There's really f*ck all support for actions of dissident groups.

I think it is sinking in that militant attacks are never going to bring about a 32 county sovereign Ireland. They don't want the humiliation of ceasefires or officially ending their so called campaigns but I'd bet money their will be no security force casulties in 2012

[Corruptable]

Originally Posted by Bottle_of_Smoke

I'd bet money their will be no security force casulties in 2012

I certainly hope so, it's gone beyond all reason since the murder of Constables Stephen Carroll and Ronan Kerr. Absolutely pointless deaths which have not furthered the dissident's political objectives in any way, in fact the opposite is quite true, with the continued fragmenting of their organisations and few supporters.

Interesting about the timing in relation to Mi5 budgets, it's an angle I hadn't previously considered. But the attacks would suit the agenda of informers who stand to benefit financially from chaos. Perhaps it's a self-fulfilling cycle, but I suppose that's a topic for another thread.

Not to distract from the topic or frighten anyone with an interest in joining the PSNI, carry on and keep up the great work lads and ladies.

[fefe5]

http://www.policeoracle.com/news/PSN...ing_42162.html

A timely news article for your discussion!