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13-06-2011, 01:28   #16
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No worries. Plugging out extra lines can often help, I've seen it with relations where an extension socket (and no phone plugged in) was causing stability problems. It acted as an aerial for interference. If that line going from the alarm to the socket isn't being used, you may as well leave it disconnected from the rest of the wiring completely. You can always join it back up at the socket when the time comes. One less way for interference to enter the phone line!

A socket which has no phone, fax, alarm, sky box etc plugged in, won't need a filter.
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I changed my DNS config from older IP addresses to those in the link posted above and my speeds jumped by about 50% (granted still not very high)

Not sure if it coincided with someone upstream ramping down on usage at the time. Speeds are currently still okay.

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Micheal, while you're waiting on those filters, could you do a favour for me? Could you plug out the 3 phones and the modem and then plug just the modem back in? Then get the line stats again and post them up here to see how much has changed. You can plug the phones in after you've checked the stats.


What hasn't been said here is that eircom are supposed to check the line up to and including the first socket in the house as it is their responsibility. If the linesman only checked up to where the line meets the gable from the pole then he didn't do his job.

But the filter is needed on that second phone as has been said.

As an aside, on occasion I've seen some sparks use stuff like alarm cable to put in phone wires and wired the extra sockets incorrectly even though the RECI have released a document showing how to do it (http://www.reci.ie/Portals/0/RECIDoc...minterface.pdf). Joining up the different sockets the wrong way can cause suprising problems for DSL.
To_be_confirmed I love ya, 100% homo, unplugged all phones and restarted router, 3072Kbps must be because of that socket in the master bedroom that doesn't have a filter, i'll attach it the minute it comes.

Also, I've done something like this before, and it went to 3072, but then went back down to about 1777 in under an hour, i'll report back.
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What's the signal margin like when it's at 3072 kbps?
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What's the signal margin like when it's at 3072 kbps?
current stats:

DSL Mode: ADSL_G.dmt
Speed: 3072 kbps /384 kbps
Line Attenuation (Down/Up): 48 dB /24 dB
DSL Noise Margin: 23 dB /12 dB

before:

DSL Mode: ADSL_G.dmt
Speed: 1760Kbps/384Kbps
Line Attenuation: 49/24
DSL Noise Margin: 17/12


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13-06-2011, 16:24   #21
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Jeez that a very healthy signal margin. When you get the filter, try it out for perhaps a week and check the modem stats every so often. If the downstream signal margin stays above say 14dB then I suggest you call eircom to put you up to 4 mbps (if your service is one of the "up to 8mbps NGB" setups or the old top tier package still available on many smaller exchanges which gives up to 7 mbps.)
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for a line that's 20 years old, it ain't doing too bad thanks for the recommendation, (un)fortunately i cant get ngb, there are goods and bads to that, haha, i'll look into the 7mbps. thanks
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for a line that's 20 years old, it ain't doing too bad thanks for the recommendation, (un)fortunately i cant get ngb, there are goods and bads to that, haha, i'll look into the 7mbps. thanks
In that case, I'd hold off and wait for the exchange to get the NGB upgrade. You may be waiting a year or two but you should get it eventually. Check here: You'll probably only get an upgrade from 3 to 4 mbps if you pay for the higher package. Check here (http://www.ngb.ie/) to see when your exchange is scheduled for the so-called "NGB" upgrade. NGB my ass, UPC already offer speeds of at least 30 mbps to over 40% of houses in this country!
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All phones need 1. If a call comes out the line and someone answers it they will talk into it. That in its self creates noise so a line filter filters out most of the noise. Thats how i knew 1 of mines was broken. When someone called the internet would disconnect all a sudden.

Also Cisco routers r a good choice same goes for the Netgears. I personally would buy this Cisco-Linksys-WRT54GL-Wireless-G-Broadband
Just in case anyone reading your post might be looking for recommendations its important to point out that the model you recommend is a wireless router only and will still need a dsl modem.
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Just in case anyone reading your post might be looking for recommendations its important to point out that the model you recommend is a wireless router only and will still need a dsl modem.
Come again. I saw 4 Ethernet ports in the back. Is that not a wired solution for u.
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That router does not have a built-in DSL modem. It would need to be plugged into an existing netopia or Zyxel modem/router for it to work, which wouldn't be very useful in comparsion to a different wireless router with DSL built in.
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Come again. I saw 4 Ethernet ports in the back. Is that not a wired solution for u.
there is no dsl input, its not a modem, just a router
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R u sure?
Anyway I changed my mind this 1 is the best.
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I'm rather confused, why are we talking about other routers when the main problem has almost certainly been identified? Wireless N routers aren't so useful when the internet connection doesn't come close to using up Wireless G speeds. (802.11g can handle about 21mbps of data when it's connected at "54mbps" and with no other devices transferring data through wifi.
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I'm rather confused, why are we talking about other routers when the main problem has almost certainly been identified? Wireless N routers aren't so useful when the internet connection doesn't come close to using up Wireless G speeds. (802.11g can handle about 21mbps of data when it's connected at "54mbps" and with no other devices transferring data through wifi.
No I think u r confused. Wireless G is slower than Wireless N. Can u point to the issue to which u refer to.
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