[ormond lad]

Potential story/non-story

http://limerickrugby.ie/news-1869/Di...-Friday-night-

IT takes the eagle-eyed Limerick rugby public to spot any alleged breach of the AIL rules and we have had enquiries regarding the Cork Constitution line-up for last Friday night's league game against Dolphin.

If the team line-up which we received is correct, then maybe, just maybe, they have a point. According to that list 'Con' fielded Ian Nagle in the pack and both Simon Zebo and Scott Deasy in the backline. According to the AIL rules you can only play two players with provincial contracts in any game in the AIL this season. The question is, are Nagle, Zebo and Deasy all full-contract players? According to the Munster 2011/12 squad, printed in the programme for their last game against the Ospreys in Thomond Park, all three are listed without any reference to being without full contracts.

No doubt, there is some explanation. Maybe the team sheet was incorrect.

[thomond2006]

I'm fairly sure they are all on full contracts.

[CIARAN_BOYLE]

All three are on full contracts as per munsterrugby.ie

Originally Posted by Ian Nagle Profile

After his second year in the Munster Academy Ian secured a Munster Rugby development contract and then moved onto a full contract for season 2011/12.

Originally Posted by Deasy profile

Scott has made the move up through the ranks from academy to development to a full contract.

Originally Posted by zebo profile

As a sub academy player Zebo made his first competitive start for Munster in the Magners League game against Connacht at the Sportsground in April 2010.
After one year in the academy he secured a full contract at the start of the 2011/12 season.

Can anyone confirm if the team sheet was right? I personally thought that it was unlikely that Nagle would actually be played at 6 and suspected a misake when I read it first.

[thomond2006]

On a side note, the rule is a tad ridiculous. All 3 of those players need gametime at club level to keep match sharp.

[CIARAN_BOYLE]

Originally Posted by thomond2006

On a side note, the rule is a tad ridiculous. All 3 of those players need gametime at club level to keep match sharp.

They should have been given developmental contracts to ensure they could play enough club regularly. All three are players that need experience in games to further their development and should be playing regularly.

[ormond lad]

Buccaneers Deducted Ulster Bank League Points

25 November 2011, 9:01 am
By Editor


Hendre Marnitz's Buccaneers side have been in impressive form in Ulster Bank League Division 1B, winning their first five games of the campaign.


The Irish Rugby Football Union All-Ireland League Sub-Committee held a hearing to consider a possible breach of regulation by Ulster Bank League Division 1B club Buccaneers RFC in relation to the fielding of an ineligible player during a league match on Saturday, October 1.
Buccaneers RFC were asked to answer charges that it was in contravention of Ulster Bank League regulation 9.14 (Player registration and eligibility). The hearing took place in the IRFU offices in Dublin and was chaired by Ian McIlrath.

Having considered all of the available evidence, the All-Ireland League Sub-Committee found that Buccaneers RFC were guilty under regulation 9.14.2 of fielding an ineligible player.The Sub-Committee took into account the admission of the breach of regulation by Buccaneers RFC before it imposed a sanction of the immediate deduction of two Ulster Bank League Division 1B points.
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/24892.php

[bamboozle]

Originally Posted by ormond lad

Potential story/non-story

http://limerickrugby.ie/news-1869/Di...-Friday-night-

IT takes the eagle-eyed Limerick rugby public to spot any alleged breach of the AIL rules and we have had enquiries regarding the Cork Constitution line-up for last Friday night's league game against Dolphin.

If the team line-up which we received is correct, then maybe, just maybe, they have a point. According to that list 'Con' fielded Ian Nagle in the pack and both Simon Zebo and Scott Deasy in the backline. According to the AIL rules you can only play two players with provincial contracts in any game in the AIL this season. The question is, are Nagle, Zebo and Deasy all full-contract players? According to the Munster 2011/12 squad, printed in the programme for their last game against the Ospreys in Thomond Park, all three are listed without any reference to being without full contracts.

No doubt, there is some explanation. Maybe the team sheet was incorrect.

Just on this, Con fielded Zebo, Archer, Deasy and John Ryan against Clontarf. From Munster website Zebo Archer and Deasy are all on full contracts.

wonder who Bucc's fielded, they're pretty strong with connacht players

Anyway on a playing front i'm looking forward to seeing Clontarf putting manners on Shannon tomorrow.

[bamboozle]

Originally Posted by thomond2006

On a side note, the rule is a tad ridiculous. All 3 of those players need gametime at club level to keep match sharp.

i agree but them's the rules, personally i think there should be no issue with contracted players in 1A, these rules should apply to 1B and below.

[vinny chase]

Originally Posted by bamboozle

wonder who Bucc's fielded, they're pretty strong with connacht players

I'm told it's no-one too significant, a 21-year-old former Corinthians prop named James Robinson. Apparently they signed a glut of players close to the deadline for registration and his paperwork got lost in the muddle!

[ormond lad]

Ulster Bank League: Results Round-Up

26 November 2011, 4:21 pm
By Editor



Clontarf came good in the second half against Shannon to get back to winning ways in Ulster Bank League Division 1A, while Cork Constitution, Garryowen, Ballymena and Galwegians all showed their mettle when picking up away victories. Check out our round-up of the latest results.

ULSTER BANK LEAGUE RESULTS: Saturday, November 26
DIVISIoN 1A:
Blackrock College 14 Cork Con 17,
Clontarf 29 Shannon 8,
Dolphin 9 Garryowen 14,
Young Munster 15 Lansdowne 13
St Marys 15 Old Belvedere 10,

DIVISION 1B:
Ballynahinch 17 Bruff 3,
Belfast Harlequins 19 Buccaneers 14
Dungannon 27 UCC 14,
UL Bohs 13 Ballymena 30,
UCD 13 Galwegians 26,

DIVISION 2A:

City of Derry 20 Seapoint 29,
Corinthians 17 Queen's University 11,
Greystones 27 Instonians 11,
Midleton 5 Dublin University 15,
Old Crescent 20 Malone 19,
Old Wesley 48 Clonakilty 10,
Terenure College 5 De La Salle Palmerston 9,
Bective Rangers v Thomond, Donnybrook (Sunday, November 27, 2.30pm)

DIVISION 2B:

Ards 20 Wanderers 18,
Boyne 17 Banbridge 10,
Highfield 35 Connemara 16
Naas 13 Sligo 30,
Navan 0 Cashel 32,
Nenagh Ormond 17 Sunday's Well 6,
NUIM Barnhall 36 Armagh 11,
Rainey Old Boys 35 Suttonians 10,
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/24901.php

[bamboozle]

Originally Posted by bamboozle

Just on this, Con fielded Zebo, Archer, Deasy and John Ryan against Clontarf. From Munster website Zebo Archer and Deasy are all on full contracts.

wonder who Bucc's fielded, they're pretty strong with connacht players

Anyway on a playing front i'm looking forward to seeing Clontarf putting manners on Shannon tomorrow.

good win for Tarf against a poor/weak shannon team, the poorest performance i remember seeing from a Shannon team.
Big game next week away to Mary's, never an easy place to win.

[ormond lad]

Ulster Bank League: Results Round-Up


3 December 2011, 4:43 pm
By Editor



Results today mean that Young Munster and Ballymena will take in the festive season as leaders of Division 1A and Division 1B respectively, while DLSP remain top of Division 2A and a very impressive Cashel side are seven from seven at the summit of Division 2B.

ULSTER BANK LEAGUE: RESULTS: Saturday, December 3

DIVISION 1A:
CORK CONSTITUTION 16 YOUNG MUNSTER 23, Temple Hill
Scorers: Cork Constitution: Try: Niall O'Driscoll; Con: Gerry Hurley; Pens: Gerry Hurley 2; Drop: Johnny Holland
Young Munster: Tries: Liam Og Murphy, Penalty try; Cons: Willie Staunton 2; Pens: Willie Staunton 3
HT: Cork Constitution 6 Young Munster 16
GARRYOWEN 20 BLACKROCK COLLEGE 13, Dooradoyle
Scorers: Garryowen: Tries: Paul Neville, Conor Hartigan; Cons: Declan Cusack 2; Pens: Declan Cusack, Fergal Lawlor
Blackrock College: Try: Cian Culleton; Con: Rob Keogh; Pens: Rob Keogh, Darragh Fitzpatrick
HT: Garryowen 3 Blackrock College 6
OLD BELVEDERE 13 DOLPHIN 20, Anglesea Road
Scorers: Old Belvedere: Try: Peter Woods; Con: Andy Dunne; Pens: Andy Dunne 2
Dolphin: Tries: John Quill, Christy Condon; Cons: Barry Keeshan 2; Pens: Barry Keeshan 2
HT: Old Belvedere 13 Dolphin 13
SHANNON 16 LANSDOWNE 25, Coonagh
Scorers: Shannon: Try: Paddy Butler; Con: Tadhg Bennett; Pens: Tadhg Bennett 3
Lansdowne: Tries: Jason Kelly, Ross McCarron, John Cooney; Cons: Craig Ronaldson 2; Pens: Craig Ronaldson 2
HT: Shannon 9 Lansdowne 19
ST. MARY'S COLLEGE 22 CLONTARF 20, Templeville Road
Scorers: St. Mary's College: Tries: Richie Sweeney, Jack McGrath, Philip Brophy; Cons: Gavin Dunne 2; Pen: Gavin Dunne
Clontarf: Tries: Richie Lane, Frank Cogan; Cons: Richie Lane 2; Pens: Richie Lane 2
HT: St. Mary's College 15 Clontarf 7
DIVISION 1B:
BALLYMENA 6 BALLYNAHINCH 3, Eaton Park
Scorers: Ballymena: Pens: John Semple 2
Ballynahinch: Pen: James Lash
HT: Ballymena 6 Ballynahinch 0
BRUFF 10 BELFAST HARLEQUINS 6, Kilballyowen Park
Scorers: Bruff: Tries: Paul O'Brien, Andrew Cashman
Belfast Harlequins: Pens: Owen McMurray 2
HT: Bruff 5 Belfast Harlequins 6
BUCCANEERS 33 DUNGANNON 20, Dubarry Park
Scorers: Buccaneers: Tries: Shane Leyden, John O'Brien, Brian Tuohy, Conor Lavelle; Cons: Jack Carty 2; Pens: Jack Carty 3
Dungannon: Try: Chris Cochrane, Ali Birch; Cons: Jaryd Bennett 2; Pens: Jaryd Bennett 2
HT: Buccaneers 12 Dungannon 10
GALWEGIANS 41 UCC 18, Crowley Park
Scorers: Galwegians: Tries: Barry Lee, Penalty try, John Cleary, Calum O'Connell, Ivan Muldoon; Cons: Matthew Jarvis 5; Pens: Matthew Jarvis 2
UCC: Tries: Willie Ryan, Oscar O Suilleabhain; Con: Cormac O'Flynn; Pens: Cormac O'Flynn 2
HT: Galwegians 24 UCC 15
UCD 24 UL BOHEMIANS 20, Belfield
Scorers: UCD: Tries: Andrew Boyle, David Doyle; Con: Niall Earls; Pens: Niall Earls 4
UL Bohemians: Tries: Martin McPhail, Dave Kilcoyne, Ed Kelly; Con: JJ Hanrahan; Pen: JJ Hanrahan
HT: UCD 21 UL Bohemians 5
DIVISION 2A:
Clonakilty 23 Greystones 50, Shannonvale Cross
De La Salle Palmerston 17 Corinthians 13, Kirwan Park
Dublin University 32 City of Derry 21, College Park
Instonians 17 Bective Rangers 7, Shaw's Bridge
Malone 20 Midleton 15, Gibson Park
Queen's University 18 Old Crescent 9, Dub Lane
Seapoint 17 Old Wesley 23, Kilbogget Park
Thomond 11 Terenure College 10, Liam Fitzgerald Park
DIVISION 2B:
Ards 8 Cashel 38, Hamilton Park
Armagh 15 Boyne 16, Palace Grounds
Highfield 21 Naas 12, Woodleigh Park
Nenagh Ormond 22 Navan 17, New Ormond Park
Rainey Old Boys 3 Banbridge 15, Hatrick Park
Sunday's Well 16 Connemara 30, Musgrave Park
Suttonians 12 NUIM Barnhall 26, JJ McDowell Memorial Grounds
Wanderers 5 Sligo 14, Merrion Road
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/24953.php

[ormond lad]

Ulster Bank League: Division 2B Previews


8 December 2011, 6:00 am
By Barry Cunningham



There is an historic game to be played in Tipperary this weekend when Cashel host local rivals Nenagh Ormond - the first time two clubs from Tipp have met at senior level in Irish rugby. This is the last weekend of action in Division 2B of the Ulster Bank League before Christmas.

ULSTER BANK LEAGUE: DIVISION 2A: Saturday, December 10

Kick-off 2.30pm unless stated -

Cashel (1st) v Nenagh Ormond (5th), Spafield, 1pm
An historic day for rugby in Tipperary with two sides from the county meeting at senior level in the Ulster Bank League for the first time.
The match is given added spice by the fact that the new boys Cashel are riding high at the top of the table and currently unbeaten.
The hosts have conceded only 38 points so far but that could all go out the window in a derby game. Irish Rugby TV will be on hand to record the game for highlights. The early start means you can also catch the Munster match in the clubhouse afterwards.
Banbridge (4th) v Ards (14th), Rifle Park
Banbridge's win over Rainey Old Boys last week saw them move into fourth place in the table, level with Nenagh Ormond. They face another Ulster derby this weekend at Rifle Park.
Ards got thumped by league leaders Cashel last time out but they will still be hoping to do to Banbridge what Bann did Rainey the week before.
Form favours the hosts, though, and they should be strong enough to take the points on Saturday.
Boyne (8th) v Highfield (6th), Shamrock Lodge
This is the kind of interprovincial clash the Ulster Bank League thrives on - two community-based clubs meeting for the first time at this level.
Boyne have adjusted reasonably well to life in the league and last weekend's one-point victory over Armagh has improved their win/loss ratio.
Highfield are still in the running near the top of the table but need a result this weekend to stay in touch. They had a good win over Naas last weekend but Boyne will make for stiffer opposition on the road.
Navan (12th) v Armagh (10th), Balreask Old
Navan went down to Nenagh Ormond last weekend and while they are clear of the relegation zone they cannot afford to feel comfortable yet.
Armagh make the trip to Navan having lost at home to Navan's arch rivals Boyne last weekend. These two former junior clubs go head to head with points badly needed for a comfortable Christmas.
That said, they should serve up a good game and will be well supported at Balreask Old.
NUIM Barnhall (3rd) v Sunday's Well (13th), Parsonstown
NUIM Barnhall return to Leixlip following a successful stint in Maynooth and a win on the road at Suttonians last weekend.
Five wins and three try-scoring bonus points testify that the home side are in good form this season and are a real force to be reckoned with.
The 'Well, like Navan. are clear of the relegation zone but only just. Another loss for them this weekend would open the door for Ards or Naas.
Sligo (11th) v Rainey Old Boys (2nd), Hamilton Park
Sligo picked up a much-needed win last weekend on the road but they face a much sterner examination on Saturday when they welcome Rainey Old Boys to Strandhill.
The former Ulster junior side will know just what to expect on their visit to the west and with four try-scoring bonuses to their name look capable of dealing with it.
An away win is on the cards then as Sligo continue to adjust to life as a senior club.
Suttonians (9th) v Naas (15th), JJ McDowell Memorial Grounds
The Sutton side are mid-table with 14 points but would like at least one win from this block of three pre-Christmas games.
Naas are struggling badly this season with only one win in seven games and only one losing bonus point from their six losses.
You would have to back Suttonians to take the points at home as they gear up for Christmas and their annual Fat Turkey Walk in aid of the IRFU Charitable Trust.
Connemara play Wanderers in January.
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/24983.php

The biggest and most important AIL game that will be played this season is on saturday, Tipps first ever derby game. 1st v 5th, should be a good game

[ormond lad]

Ulster Bank League: Results Round-Up


10 December 2011, 4:32 pm
By Editor



Dublin University will enjoy the Christmas break as the new leaders of Division 2A after winning today's top of the table clash with De La Salle Palmerston. Meanwhile, Cashel secured their eighth successive victory in Division 2B by beating local rivals Nenagh Ormond.


ULSTER BANK LEAGUE RESULTS: Saturday, December 10 DIVISION 2A:
Midleton 11 Clonakilty 16, Towns Park
Old Crescent 14 Greystones 19, Rosbrien
Dublin University 6 De La Salle Palmerston 3, College Park
City of Derry 35 Instonians 14, Judge's Road
Malone 17 Queen's University 15, Gibson Park
Old Wesley 12 Terenure College 32, Donnybrook
Seapoint 18 Thomond 8, Kilbogget Park
Corinthians 3 Bective Rangers 6, Corinthian Park
DIVISION 2B:
Cashel 21 Nenagh Ormond 3, Spafield
Banbridge 53 Ards 5, Rifle Park
Boyne 19 Highfield 19, Drogheda
Navan 22 Armagh 12, Balreask Old
NUIM Barnhall 24 Sunday's Well 9, Parsonstown
Sligo 18 Rainey Old Boys 20, Hamilton Park
Suttonians 13 Naas 15, JJ McDowell Memorial Grounds
http://www.irishrugby.ie/club/news/25006.php

[ormond lad]

The Irish Times - Friday, January 6, 2012 Player loses sight in eye following incident
GERRY HAND
A TALENTED junior rugby player has lost the sight in his right eye following an alleged gouging incident at the end of an AIL Division Two game last month.
Eoin Collins (32), a former captain of the Leinster Junior inter pro side, was lining out as a backrow forward for Drogheda- based Boyne RFC against Cork side Highfield on December 12th when the incident occurred.
A Highfield player has been cited, for allegedly eye-gouging Collins and an IRFU disciplinary hearing will investigate the matter later this month.
Collins confirmed: “Apart from being able to see a small bit of shadow I have no vision at all in my right eye, and I honestly do not know what the future holds for me now.
“It happened in a maul at the very end of the game, I knew it was bad because my vision went black, there was bleeding and the pain was horrific.
“It was very upsetting at the time, but it really sunk in over Christmas when I was looking forward to spending time with friends and family and just couldn’t enjoy it, and that made me feel angry over the whole thing.”
Collins had just started work as a sales rep, but as he is now unable to drive he has no idea how things will work out in that regard.
“My primary concern is to get sight back in the eye so I can have some quality of life, I will just have to wait and see what level of sight comes back in time, if any does. I doubt I will play rugby again though.”
Collins was brought to the Mater Hospital and surgeons immediately operated on his ruptured eye socket.
“The club doctor, Dr Lynn and our physio, Ian McGovern, did brilliantly by me, they got me to the Mater straight away and that was absolutely vital, the surgeons have told me that the speed with which I was treated may well stand to me in the future.”
IRFU spokesman Karl Richardson stated: “I am not aware of that specific incident, however, our disciplinary panel meets regularly during the season to deal with dismissals and citings.
“If DVD or video evidence is available they would view that and in fact they will take all available evidence into consideration.”
Highfield secretary Fergus O’Mahony revealed his club have already been contacted by the IRFU.
“They have spoken to us, we have been informed that a named player on our team has been cited by Boyne for eye-gouging. On the day of the game we left the venue not knowing anything about it as it was never mentioned to us at all.
“We have already forwarded a copy of our DVD of the match to the IRFU.
“It seems like a horrible injury, and certainly we hope the chap makes a full recovery; we haven’t endeavoured to contact either him or the club as of yet as we feel it would be inappropriate to do so until the investigation is concluded.
“I would stress though that at the moment it is only an allegation against our player, and like anybody else he has to be presumed innocent until it can be proved otherwise.”
Horrible injury, hope he can regain some sight in the eye