[paul26]

No matter what any body can say against the legalization and all the illness that it can cause, you just need to add up which is going to have a worse effect all the mental illness caused by marijuana which from my point of view from been a smoker and knowing alot of smokers, it is very very rare, or all the toxins and chemicals that gansters contaminate the marijuana to bulk up the weight of the marijuana.
Its not a hard one really, breathing in shards of glass, silica sand, plastic, wall plaster, etc.
90% of marijuana in this country is contaminated, in the years to come a lot of the youth today is going to die from or be seriously ill from this, way more people than which are going to die or be seriously ill from 100% clean marijuana. Research silica sand it causes lung cancer very similar to abspetos, the stuff is lethal when inhaled. And the worst thing is that this is not stopping people smoking it. We would protect people from food contamination or other things alike.

Please people think of the future of our kids, because if we don't legalize it now, the contamination is going to get worse, and marijuana will start killing people.

[Mance Rayder]

The majority of my peers who began smoking weed in their teens and still smoke are now either completely brain dead idiots (The kind who repeat themselves over and over like an alco does) or paranoid out of their minds, or both.

One thing I learned from these people is, they will never ever say a bad word about weed/hash etc. They will however readily blame everyone else on their shortcomings.

There is a strong connection between Scangers/Scumbaggery and weed/hash use. Try and tell me there is not. I've lived in dodgey areas all my life and it all revolves around weed and hash. Stoners here will laugh at it but weed/Hash has stolen the lives/Slashed the potential of many good and bright young people in this country.

Amsterdam is not a good example, It's a hell hole of a city full of crime, illegal drugs, vagrants, prostitution both legal and illigal, where extreme sexual perversions are celebrated. Walking around Amsterdam you will be offered more coke and E by dealers then would ever happen here. So the argument that legalisation would reduce the presence of harder drugs on the streets is BS.

Government can legalise it and tax the S**T out of it for all I care, but don't expect Ireland to be a nicer place because of it.

[bandit197]

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

The majority of my peers who began smoking weed in their teens and still smoke are now either completely brain dead idiots (The kind who repeat themselves over and over like an alco does) or paranoid out of their minds, or both.

One thing I learned from these people is, they will never ever say a bad word about weed/hash etc. They will however readily blame everyone else on their shortcomings.

There is a strong connection between Scangers/Scumbaggery and weed/hash use. Try and tell me there is not. I've lived in dodgey areas all my life and it all revolves around weed and hash. Stoners here will laugh at it but weed/Hash has stolen the lives/Slashed the potential of many good and bright young people in this country.

Amsterdam is not a good example, It's a hell hole of a city full of crime, illegal drugs, vagrants, prostitution both legal and illigal, where extreme sexual perversions are celebrated. Walking around Amsterdam you will be offered more coke and E by dealers then would ever happen here. So the argument that legalisation would reduce the presence of harder drugs on the streets is BS.

Drugs are not legal in Holland.

What exactly has prostitution and as you put it "extreme sexual perversions" got to do with this argument?

[Mance Rayder]

Originally Posted by paul26

Research silica sand it causes lung cancer very similar to abspetos, the stuff is lethal when inhaled. And the worst thing is that this is not stopping people smoking it. We would protect people from food contamination or other things alike.

It doesnt stop people from smoking it because it is addictive and makes people stupid.
The government protects people from food contamination. Not from the possible perils of illegal substance abuse..

[bandit197]

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

It doesnt stop people from smoking it because it is addictive and makes people stupid.
The government protects people from food contamination. Not from the possible perils of illegal substance abuse..

I suspect that you are a troll because if you have educated yourself in any way on the subject you would know that cannabis is not an addictive substance.

[Mance Rayder]

Originally Posted by bandit197

Drugs are not legal in Holland.

What exactly has prostitution and as you put it "extreme sexual perversions" got to do with this argument?

Firstly, and I understand you may not of noticed in between tokes, but I didn't say drugs were legal.

Amsterdam has been bandied about as a good example by potheads and I was pointing out that its a Sh*tHole that we should not be attempting to emulate.

[Mance Rayder]

Originally Posted by bandit197

I suspect that you are a troll because if you have educated yourself in any way on the subject you would know that cannabis is not an addictive substance.

I smoked weed for 3 years and quit when I copped on. It is mentally addictive and this is well accepted. Take the weed away from some stoners for a week or two and watch them suffer. Nicotine is gone out of a persons system a few days after quitting, yet smokers can suffer for a year or more from cravings caused by the mental addiction.

I am not a troll, just because I am not here singing the praises of weed does not make me a troll.

[bandit197]

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

just because I am not here singing the praises of weed does not make me a troll.

If you had took the time to read my posts in this thread you would realise that I too am not singing the praises of weed either.

Do you support decriminalisation or do you believe we should continue on as we are with our heads in the sand?

[yop]

I've already warned people on this thread that you are flying very close to the edge.

2 warnings handed out to Bandit and Ciscostudent for personal abuse.

No more warnings now on this thread. Bans will be next.

Regards

[paul26]

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

There is a strong connection between Scangers/Scumbaggery and weed/hash use. Try and tell me there is not.

.

Yes that is the whole point just incase you missed it, were trying to legalize weed/hash, to break the connection between scumbags and weed/hash. Did you read any of the posts, or did u just decide to bust in and shout out your point without hearing the argument.

Very quick to say stoners are complete dopes, when thats just what you think of them, your opinnion. Not everyone wants to be a perfect pillar of society like your self who never stutters, or has to think about what your going to say.

Personally im the kind of person who would rather listen to a person stutter and take there time in what there saying rather than talk about something they didnt even have the time to listen to the conversation.

[champski]

Originally Posted by shebafay

TO THE OP. MY EXPERIENCE OF THE MEDICAL EFFECTS OF CANNABIS DIFFERS TO YOUR THEORIES. MY BROTHER, RIP, DEVELOPED SCHIZOPHRENIA 10 YEARS AGO FROM USING IT AND SUBSEQUENTLY TOOK HIS OWN LIFE. MY SON HAS JUST RETURNED FROM A 6 MONTH STAY IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL FOR TREATMENT FOR DRUG INDUCED PSYCHOSIS, SECONDARY TO CANNABIS USE. HE NOW HAS A LOWER THAN AVERAGE IQ AS HE WAS SMOKING IT FROM AGE 15 (AGAINST MY KNOWLEDGE). SO, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE CAMPAIGN TO LEGALISE CANNABIS, AND INDEED IF NEED BE, I WILL BE ORGANISING MY OWN PROTEST TO MAKE SURE IT REMAINS A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. HOW IN THE NAME OF GOD IT WOULD BENEFIT THE OLDER GENERATION TO LEGALISE CANNABIS BEATS ME.....


*****Please change this post for capitalization, all caps looks like you are shouting, change it or it will be deleted.*****************

Maybe it's genetic and not cannabis related

[champski]

I used to enjoy a smoke in my younger days(still do occasionally) and it never did me any harm. I was on a national martial arts squad and held a 4 nations belt in another discipline so it didn't rob me of my ambition or drive. When did ya ever hear of a guy having a smoke and knocking someones teeth out, personally, never. When did ya ever hear of a guy having a fist of drink and knocking someones teeth out, answer, every weekend in every town in the country

[PogMoThoin]

Terrible modding tbh, I see no offensive posts from either party, WTF? Its a discussion FFS, there are lots of valid points and lots of opinions, nothing worth warning over.

[mikom]

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

The majority of my peers who began smoking weed in their teens and still smoke are now either completely brain dead idiots (The kind who repeat themselves over and over like an alco does) or paranoid out of their minds, or both.

One thing I learned from these people is, they will never ever say a bad word about weed/hash etc. They will however readily blame everyone else on their shortcomings.

Correlation does not imply causation.
"The more firemen fighting a fire, the bigger the fire is observed to be.
Therefore firemen cause fire."
Look it up.

Your friends may have been fuck ups from year dot and simply used cannabis as a coping tool............ if not cannabis then alcohol............ if not alcohol then liquorice allsorts.
Yourself proclaimed "dodgy area" may cause people to cope with it in different ways.

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

There is a strong connection between Scangers/Scumbaggery and weed/hash use.

See prohibition in the USA during the 20's and 30's.
I'm sure old Ma clampet was heard to utter "There is a strong connection between Scangers/Scumbaggery and bootleg liquor use.

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

Amsterdam is not a good example,

Try Portugal........ it's been mentioned and backed up by stats a few times in this thread already.
Any problem with that set up?

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

Government can legalise it and tax the S**T out of it for all I care, but don't expect Ireland to be a nicer place because of it.

Will it make you any angrier?

Originally Posted by CiscoStudent

I smoked weed for 3 years and quit when I copped on. It is mentally addictive and this is well accepted. Take the weed away from some stoners for a week or two and watch them suffer. Nicotine is gone out of a persons system a few days after quitting, yet smokers can suffer for a year or more from cravings caused by the mental addiction.

See Highlighted word.
Can't say I ever suffered like you.
You still suffering?

[yop]

Originally Posted by PogMoThoin

Terrible modding tbh, I see no offensive posts from either party, WTF? Its a discussion FFS, there are lots of valid points and lots of opinions, nothing worth warning over.

Back seat modding also incurs a ban..... also is using offensive language.

Leave the modding to the mods, you obviously don't understand the rules.